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Oracle is planning to build a national database of individuals' health records for the whole United States following its $28.3 billion acquisition of electronic health records specialist Cerner. In a presentation, CTO and founder Larry Ellison said electronic health records for individual patients were stored by hospitals and …

  1. Stu J

    Three words

    Fuck. Right. Off.

    1. Short Fat Bald Hairy Man
      Pint

      Re: Three words

      Absolutely.

      But would it not be possible for them to hire lobbyists to help pass accommodating rules?

      1. R.O.
        Stop

        Re: Three words

        Fuck. Off. Yup.

        The whole purpose as always is to make mass surveillance and marketing of our personal, private medical records easier and more profitable. Look up Google's "Project Nightingale" for guidance.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    time to choose

    Palantir or Oracle or Epic

    The irony is that we have some much better quality UK-grown IT systems like Nervecentre, but because of serial mismanagement of NHS IT, the big US players are crowding out the UK ones.

    Incompetence, fraud or malice? sometimes difficult to tell in the NHS

    1. Mr.Nobody

      Re: time to choose

      There is plenty of serial mismanagement by both for the for-profit and not-for-profit health care entities in the US.

      1. Kabukiwookie Silver badge

        Re: time to choose

        I don't give a fsck about the for-profit healthcare if they're run into the ground through incompetence.

        I do care about the government-run healthcare system.

        Stopping politicians from having cushiy 'jobs' on the board of directors of these companies would probably go a long way in preventing 'incompetence' in government-run healthcare.

  3. Gene Cash Silver badge

    Errr... at least since 2012

    I remember in the early years of the Obama administration that Oracle wanted to build a national health database.

    I guess it's just as on-schedule and on-budget as any other Oracle project...

    1. docmechanic

      Re: Errr... at least since 2012

      I'd forgotten about that. Great point.

      "As part of the proposal, the Obama administration intends to give $130 million to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to build a database of records that will include biological samples, test results, medical histories and genomic profiles of a million or more Americans."

      https://www.ibtimes.com/obamas-precision-medicine-database-how-safe-private-patient-data-1802570

  4. Jan K. Bronze badge

    That sounds like a kind and caring person with only best interests for me and my health?

    And with all our data securely in The Cloud, I can't see what possible can go wrong.

    .

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    Mhhh... nice weekend weed...

  5. Mr.Nobody

    I can't wait to find out how much he charges the health insurance companies for access so they can deny care for whatever reason they can muster. Again, we are the product.

  6. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Genocide as a Service

    Just run a query returning all undesirables.

    Find a common denominator in the health database

    Create mRNA "vaccine" targeting the people in the group that will cause SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome).

    Distribute as a "booster"

    Reclaim all their property.

  7. DS999 Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Oh good

    I was just thinking "who would be the most trustworthy to have control of my most sensitive personal data?" and the first name that came to mind was Larry Ellison!

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    More Misdirection About Personal Privacy......

    Quote: "...data in the national health database as records would be anonymized..."

    Dear Larry......this statement is simply FALSE....pure misdirection!!!! Have a read of this:

    - Link: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/23/anonymised-data-never-be-anonymous-enough-study-finds

    What next? Peter Thiel says that "personal privacy is the primary goal at Palantir"...................I don't think so!!!!

  9. Strider

    Improved patient outcomes

    What's not to like about someone trying to improve health care and patient outcomes?

  10. Mister Dubious
    FAIL

    Been there, done that

    A quarter-century ago, the state of Massachusetts (USA) released anonymized hospital visit records to any researcher who wanted them.

    A graduate student promptly sent Governor William Weld's records to him.

    (Accounts of the exploit are everywhere on the Net; search "William Weld re-identification".)

  11. The man with a spanner

    Solutions to the problem please

    I think it is fairly uncontroversial that collecting medical data in population size chunks can help provide much improved understanding of human biology and hence advance medical science. This has to be a good thing in my opinion.

    So the two questions that need answering are:

    1) Who would you trust to do this?

    2) How would you safeguard personal privacy whilst providing the benefits to all in society?

  12. Chancellor

    The article does not recognize the impact of items such as 'schedules of billable illnesses', standardized device delivery models, and formal constraints on professional communications with general practitioners.

    It is somewhat quixotic to imagine that in the local environment, individuals can expect service delivery to address underlying cause rather than a palliative response to their symptoms.

  13. Chancellor

    Don Ellison loses Sanchez's respect

    In the Spanish serial novel, Don Quixote, the Don and his sidekick Sanchez have adventures. Sanchez supports Don Quixote until the Don wishes to raise the status of a serving wench into independent responsibilities, and that is where the novel ends.

    Maybe Don Ellison imagines frontline service delivery as his Dulcinea.

    A review of other posts can appreciate the fierce passion of will to keep domain specific language, describing variations on the human architype, outside the public domain.

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