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Microsoft has updated its Surface Laptop Go, giving commercial customers the option of more RAM – but keeping quiet when it comes to Pluton. Surface Laptop Go 2 (credit: Microsoft) The original Go was introduced in 2020 as something for customers who fancied the Surface name, but lacked pockets deep enough to afford the full …

  1. Binraider Silver badge

    4GB???

    Utterly useless for Windows 10/11. A perfect example of taking perfectly good components and sending them landfill via consumers on short timescales.

    I'm not the audience for such junk, but I'm sure they'll still fall off the shelves.

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: 4GB???

      I have a 4GB Windows 10 laptop as a work spare. It's perfectly fine for running Windows and general apps like browsers, office etc. I'm not going to attempt to use GIMP on it, as I don't have a week for it to load.

      1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

        Re: 4GB???

        Depends, if you have ADD then waiting for something for more than 100ms makes you instantly switch to doing something else and then forgetting that you even started something on a laptop.

      2. karlkarl Silver badge

        Re: 4GB???

        "I'm not going to attempt to use GIMP on it, as I don't have a week for it to load."

        Just run an older Gtk+2.0 version of it from a time when, many computers had much less than 4GB :)

    2. bofh1961

      Re: 4GB???

      Perfect for a lightweight Linux distro then? Just goes to show how Linux-friendly Microsoft is these days...

      1. Binraider Silver badge

        Re: 4GB???

        It'll probably be locked down in BIOS to prevent such good ideas...

        1. doublelayer Silver badge

          Re: 4GB???

          Do you honestly think that's likely? They've been making Surface devices for a while and none of them (except maybe the ARM ones but I just don't know how they work) have had any restrictions with booting Linux. In fact, I've found they generally have good driver compatibility in Linux. I see no reason to expect this won't be the same. When making accusations, it helps to consider for at least a few seconds whether they're at all based in reality.

          1. Binraider Silver badge

            Re: 4GB???

            The secure boot shite bundled with them by default (And a bunch of other manufacturers) is often a blocker to using a real OS.

            The surface is also unrepairable trash held together by gallons of hot glue. Con yourself all you like, but it is an utterly terrible product line. A symptom of throwaway society.

            I assume you’re an MS employee or retailer of MS shite to hold any other view.

            Of course, lots of other laptops are also awful.

    3. Piro Silver badge

      Re: 4GB???

      It's landfill from the factory. I don't know how it could be considered acceptable.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Re: 4GB???

        I guess there is plenty we don’t know then.

      2. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

        Re: 4GB???

        You don't have to buy the 4 GB model if it's not what you want.

        Your boss will choose it for you.

        Anyway... a touchscreen? And shaped 3:2? That equates to 15:10, so narrower than 16:9 or 16:10. But wider than 4:3.

  2. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    Not a fan

    Nothing about the fan noise? Then I guess it's as loud as fighter jet ready to take off?

    Good luck having a conference call without having to hover over mute button so that you don't derail it by your spinning fans.

    Does it have adblock preinstalled? Good luck surfing the web with 4gb. But perhaps the fan noise could actually drown your swearings.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Pretty... Useless

    Current company is handing out surface laptops and they're like a cruel joke. If these new ones are anything like the current batch it is an easy pass. These are not business laptops by any stretch of the imagination. The keyboard is disappointing in terms of feel and just in the number of keys. "Home" and "end" are doubled up on the function row. In cribbing from the Apple playbook there is one usb and one usb-c port to cover every possible function including charging. Not impressed.

    Ah but it has a touch screen, yippee?

    1. 43300

      Re: Pretty... Useless

      If you think this is bad, have a look at the latest Dell XPS 13! no proper function keys, and the only ports are two USB-C - not even a 3.5mm jack. They've out-Appled Apple by quite a way!

  4. Jim Willsher

    MS still quotes 4GB as being the minimum required for Win 10/11. We all know that's bollocks but I guess if they launched the lowest spec machine with 8GB or 16GB it would blow a hole in their story.

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      It's not, though. I've used both on 4 GB machines. I wouldn't recommend you buy one, but that's just because, if you're paying money, you should get something with more capacity. If you already have one, though, it works fine. The OS runs fine. Running several programs on top of the OS runs fine. It's a suitable spec for low-end devices and Windows can use it without crimping other applications' performance. I wouldn't spec new machines with it, but it's unfair to claim that Windows won't run in it or will have unforgivable performance problems,, as neither is the case.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        You are correct. People like to spew off this pub-bore talk without knowing what they are talking about.

        4GB is not luxury performance, it does have some slow moments, but it does the job as long as the job is not too demanding. And that covers a lot of users.

        1. badflorist

          "And that covers a lot of users."

          No it doesn't, unless by "users" you mean system users (not humans).

          I've tried a Surface and a Go with 4GB of RAM to use a web interface for a audio jukebox style interface.... the browser locked and lagged constantly. This was on the OEM OS (win10) and Ubuntu (both Xfce and Gnome).

          It's 2022 and 4GB doesn't work for any real operating system requiring human interaction.

          Fun fact: The the lower the RAM the harder a CPU has to work thus burning energy/battery.

          1. doublelayer Silver badge

            Probably there was something wrong with that interface. People use devices with that or less all the time, often with significantly less processing power. Anyone who, for example, runs a Raspberry Pi as a desktop works with a lot less and there are many people who do this successfully. I have used many low-end machines for desktop use. Depending what you are going to do with them, it is generally sufficient, including a lot of browsing. Using an ad blocker helps with the speed of operation, but I've had misbehaving scripts cause problems even when a much more powerful processor and a lot of memory is available for the browser to monopolize. Badly written web scripts can take down anything.

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