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AMD claims its new Ryzen Pro 6000 CPUs for laptops are better suited for a variety of work-related tasks than Intel's latest chips and provide better battery life, though it's not a grand slam. The Ryzen Pro 6000 series, launched on Tuesday, are an offshoot of the chip designer's 6nm Ryzen 6000 laptop chips from earlier this …

  1. NoneSuch Silver badge
    FAIL

    Well...

    They are certainly more secure. The Threadripper 5000 series HEDT lineup is 100% secure as you can't even buy them...

    (Considered the joke icon, but decided I'm still ticked about it... So fail.)

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Well...

      I bought a 6 core Ryzen to build a second workstation about 3 years ago, then had to re-do the other workistation last year when the quad core Intel (>15 years old) went titstup. I could not get the same processor as before, so I settled for one that was a "true quad core" and not a hyperthreaded 6 core.

      Still happy with the results. But of course this older quad core Ryzen 3 won't do Windows 11 in a VirtualBox VM (it runs FreeBSD, naturally, with which I get _WORK_ done). But who need Win II anyway right?

      Maybe the CPU shortage problem is artificial... plenty of slightly older ones, but with artificially high demand on bleeding edge (caused in part by Win II) we have shortages. Happened with RAM, too, back in the mid 90's.

      1. Version 1.0 Silver badge

        Re: Well...

        The best thing about a Boolean is that even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Microsoft's Pluton security processor

    That alone will deter me from buying a Ryzen Pro CPU. Who knows what spying it will do 'in the name of security' naturally.

    Given MS's current pro Linux stance, I suspect that support for it in the Kernel will not be that far away... Linus permitting.

    God help us all

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

      Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

      Why on earth would I want a five eyes software vendors personal chip in my hardware? Why? I might as well put my passwords in a txt file on google drive.

    2. badflorist

      Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

      "...I suspect that support for it in the Kernel..."

      Why not? I'm not sure if anyone but MS has the motivation to contribute to it, but if they do then great (although I wont use it). Although security types might want to expose and study it so maybe it's not just in MS's interest (I'd rather know what it can do than not know anything).

      People always seem to think that if it's supported, it"s always used.

      1. Ken Hagan Gold badge
        Joke

        Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

        Ah, but once support exists, it is only a matter of time before Gobble creates a web API for it (Chrome only, natch) and then only time before your internet banking requires it.

        1. Lorribot

          Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

          Not entirely sure Google and MS get on, Google seem more hell bent on destroying MS at every opportunity than adopting anything they do.

          However, expect something similar to this in Android and Chrome OS on ARM if it is really a spying/tracking opportunity as I am sure Google would not want to miss out on any of your data.

          Google's version will obvious do no harm to anyone or actually steal any data because you have already told them to help themselves. You must remember reading it just before you clicked accept to any one of their frequent terms updates

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

          you say that, but HSBC still require their own custom app for TOTP, and MBNA still uses SMS for two-part auth. Halifax doesn't even get that far, last I checked. My understanding is that American banks are even worse when it comes to adopting even years-old security solutions. I don't have much fear any of them will be using modern browser "security" features any time soon.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

            re. Halifax, I don't know if it gets 'that far', but it got 'too far' for me, as I tried to install their banking app and they told me to fo, because handset too old. I bet it would also told me to fo if I tried to installed on rooted phone, for my own own safety, security, etc., what other reason would there be...

        3. bombastic bob Silver badge
          Happy

          Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

          "Gobble". heh.

    3. Benegesserict Cumbersomberbatch

      Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

      Don't like it? Don't need it? Switch it off in EFI, then.

      AMD allows disabling of the PSP, their equivalent to Intel's Management Engine, something Chipzilla never permitted. No reason to believe AMD won't be similarly minded this time.

    4. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Linux

      Re: Microsoft's Pluton security processor

      if there is an open source driver for it in the Linux kernel, it will be possible to DISABLE it.

  3. DenTheMan

    Who gets 5nm?

    Obviously, AMD are still getting things produced on budget.

    Does this mean Intel have 5nm pending?

    Orbis it that Appke are still slurping them all up?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Who gets 5nm?

      >Does this mean Intel have 5nm pending?

      Yes they have solved the technical problem.

      They hired an intern who knows how to change the background image on the Powerpoint template from the 7nm(nb not real nm) logo to 5nm(nb not really nm) logo

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    pluton: a body of intrusive igneous rock the size, composition, shape, or exact type of which is in doubt.

    This seems deeply appropriate, but probably not in the way Microsoft intend.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Could do with the power saving..

    I have come across some Lenovo P17s which come with an eyewatering 230W power supply brick (no chance for that to be converted to USB-C anytime soon - the plug would melt). I have no idea what lives in these big screened machines, but I am not sure it's a good idea to stick in in a package that needs some serious advanced tech just to keep it reasonably cool. I have the impression that these machines may only be usable on someone's lap in winter. Outside, that is.

    The Ryzen chips could keep these things further away from meltdown.

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Could do with the power saving..

      similarly, in my home-based office, summer heat is only contributed to by inefficient hot-running CPUs. It's gotten better for me when the old Intel quad core (from 2007-ish) was replaced with a more efficient Ryzen 3.

      (the number of CPU fans making noise is also a lot less)

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    When it comes to the supply situation, AMD said we shouldn't worry about shortages

    Dr. AMD or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and "Love" Intel...

  7. Captain Scarlet Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Teams running longer on AMD

    I can see why we are forced to buy Intel still

  8. jglathe
    Happy

    IDK, got a fleet of ryzen 9s at the start of the plandemic. Never looked back, its quite a difference work wise. A bit hairy to get the cooling right, but after that... available power and bandwith, cheaper or simply unavailable with Intel machines. Not to speak of bhyve not really performing on Intel with Windows guests.

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