back to article Congressional pressure mounts to pass $52b CHIPS Act

The Biden administration wants the $52 billion CHIPS Act passed without delay, according to a classified briefing between senior officials and a bipartisan group of Congressional representatives. The group gathered to "discuss the urgent need to invest in made-in-America semiconductors as well as research and development that …

  1. NoneSuch Silver badge
    Stop

    Can't compete with global mega-corps?

    Legislate a solution and force your citizens to pay three times what they pay today.

    U.S.A...! U.S.A...! U.S.A...! U.S.A...!

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      >Can't compete with global mega-corps?

      Intel's Oregon fab can't compete with Intel's fabs in Ireland and Israel?

      Then the US needs to offer the same 'incentives' that Eire and Israel offer.

      Intel's European fabs can't compete with the new fab in Arizona ? Looks like they are going to need more 'incentives' to keep the European fabs open

    2. codejunky Silver badge
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      @NoneSuch

      "Legislate a solution and force your citizens to pay three times what they pay today"

      With the EU doing the same thing the rest of the world will have pretty good security of supply with 3 major sources. Saying so does attract downvotes though so have an upvote from me.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: @NoneSuch

        The US will probably require that Federal users, then anybody doing business with the feds or getting getting federal grant money - have to use freedom CPUs (for national security).

        More difficult for the Eu to insist everyone uses American company's chips made in Europe

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I don't see how two highway patrol motorcycle officers in California are going to solve their fab plant problems.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    how many

    of the 0.01% will pay off congress critters to either pass or block the vote on this bill?

    If these rich dudes have lots of overseas sweatshops where the workers are paid $0.10/hour then they have no interest in passing this bill.

    OTOH, if a state senator can see a FAB coming to their neck of the woods then even if they vote against it and it passed, they will trumpet is as something that they were in favor of.

    US Politics is a swamp... Donald 'I am the greatest president EVER' Trump promised to drain it but instead he added more alligators to it.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: how many

      Even if the fab was coming to their state 50% would still vote against it.

      Denying the opposition a good news story today is better than your constituents getting jobs in 5 years.

    2. Youngone Silver badge

      Re: how many

      The US system was devised in the 18th century and set up to suit the needs of a tiny number of wealthy landowners and it has not been substantially reformed since.

      The need for modernisation is pretty obvious, but because the system is sclerotic it resists change. History shows us that eventually change is imposed on those sorts of systems through violence which will not be good for anyone.

  4. Gary Stewart

    Next generation semiconductors aren't the only thing that needs help

    There was an excellent news article and one comment in particular on the EE times web page "US Electronics Reshoring Plan Risks Missing the Boat" that points out that the US has also fallen well behind in current and future Printed Circuit Board manufacturing and technology. Most of the advances in IC's also need new and innovative ways to manufacture PCB's that connect them together. The US has lost most of its PCB R&D and manufacturing capability to overseas providers, mainly China. This is as great an economic and national security risk as relying on overseas for the bulk of the ICs we use here in the US. I applaud Intel, Micron Technology and Analog Devices for advocating that government funding needs to be handled in a way that best serves the interests of the US and not just a few mega companies (see "This may seem weird but don't give us all the chip funding, say Intel and friends", The Register). I just think we need to make sure that we cover more areas of concern than this funding is aimed at.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Next generation semiconductors aren't the only thing that needs help

      That's the whole irony, Intel / Nvidia / AMD will use this to build cutting edge fabs, because these are the most expensive so govt $$$ helps and it gives them negotiating power with TSMC.

      But its going to do nothing for the shortage of 25c chips in cars

    2. Death Boffin
      Go

      Re: Next generation semiconductors aren't the only thing that needs help

      The US still has state of the art board manufacturing capabilities. It is just not at the price that they can get from Chinese board houses.

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