back to article Nvidia outlines subscription-fueled journey to $1tr revenue

Nvidia has laid out its roadmap, of sorts, to a trillion dollars in revenue. That sales projection has no timeline, and is ambitious considering the revenue from the most recent financial year was just $26.9bn, up 61 percent annually. The GPU giant's GTC event this week indicated its path at least involves extracting repeat …

  1. zuckzuckgo

    Can I assume no executive bonuses until the $1tr target is hit?

    1. Scotthva5

      Surely you jest

      1. skershaw54

        I'm not jesting. And don't call me Shirley.

  2. Mayday
    Stop

    Paying $£¥€ to keep hardware I bought to keep doing what it did when I bought it

    = wont buy that hardware ever again.

    Examples:

    Car needs subscription to do X = don't buy that car.

    Feature on my PC needs a subscription to continue doing X* = dont get feature than needs that subscription

    etc

    Maybe I'm oldskool, but when I buy something I want to buy it and that's it.

    * Not comparing this to a software subscription service that provides continual updates, but that's a different conversation

    1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

      Re: Paying $£¥€ to keep hardware I bought to keep doing what it did when I bought it

      But this is such a distressingly old-school view!

      (With which I agree one hundred percent)

    2. PriorKnowledge
      Pirate

      Enter easy competition

      When these companies get too greedy, pirates will offer cut price subscriptions at a fraction of the cost (to them) compared with the real thing. This is what happened to Sky/Virgin TV through card sharing servers providing all channels and PPV events at half the cost of the most basic subscription price per month. Given the processing for self-driving will have to occur locally, a few replacement chips to accept modified code would likely do the trick!

      You can also guarantee that aftermarket pluggable AI will become a thing, as there is no way the EU or the US will want to risk a cartel setting the prices like what has happened to every other major aaS product.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Enter easy competition

        Or their competitors leak how to hack their service to undermine their business, as NDS did, eh?

      2. Korev Silver badge
        Stop

        Re: Enter easy competition

        Given the processing for self-driving will have to occur locally, a few replacement chips to accept modified code would likely do the trick!

        Wouldn't this kind of modification invalidate your insurance?

      3. Old-dog

        Re: Enter easy competition

        Amen

    3. jvf

      Re: Paying $£¥€ to keep hardware I bought to keep doing what it did when I bought it

      Depends. If the car I wanted was offered at $10,000 less without the autodrive “feature” enabled I’d buy it in a second.

    4. hoola Silver badge

      Re: Paying $£¥€ to keep hardware I bought to keep doing what it did when I bought it

      Whilst I completely agree with this sentiment, unfortunately those of us with this view are very much in the minority. Buying products and services on subscription or some sort of monthly lease is the way the world is going.

      It is perceived to be cheaper...

      The end user likes it because:

      They see a low monthly payment.

      They have a nice new toy every few years or constantly upgraded software.

      The providers and retailers like it because:

      Reliable revenue stream

      More opportunities to increase revenue

      Ability to upsell

      Increased margin

      1. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

        Re: Paying $£¥€ to keep hardware I bought to keep doing what it did when I bought it

        "It is perceived to be cheaper..."

        The spreadsheet with correct time-value-of-money calculations enabled will cost how much per month? Oh, never mind, keeping track of expenses is such a bother...

    5. Porco Rosso

      Re: Paying $£¥€ to keep hardware I bought to keep doing what it did when I bought it

      All that subscription sauce we are being served in the IT-hardware world at this moment is it a sign these OEM's are at a plateau of growing their customer pool and so the cost allocation is getting higher and higher ? Or are we getting to a technical plateau of the hardware (lithography, power, platform architecture, soft integration, …) ?

      Or is the actual stuff just good enough for the foreseeable future and the new stuff is getting just too expensive to develop, produce for a shrinking customer pool who needs it and are willing to buy it because all heavy applications/work you just do it on a rented cloud service ... ?

  3. DS999 Silver badge

    They think they can grow revenue 60x?

    Nvidia's revenue last year was $16 billion and change.

    Just to be clear, if you total last year's revenue for Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook AND Intel together, it all adds up to around $1 trillion. So good luck with that, Nvidia!

    1. Graham Dawson Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: They think they can grow revenue 60x?

      They don't really need to do much, just keep trucking along at close to their current revenue and let inflation add a few zeros.

      1. herman Silver badge

        Re: They think they can grow revenue 60x?

        If Nvidia would relocate to Russia then they will already hit their target.

    2. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

      Re: They think they can grow revenue 60x?

      "revenue from the most recent financial year was just $26.9bn, up 61 percent annually"

      At 61% per annum they will reach $1 trillion in only eight short years.

      => INVEST

      ;)

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "more cash through subscriptions [than] through one-time hardware shipments"

    Best of luck, Nvidia.

    I don't rent my hardware (or my software, for that matter).

  5. AndrueC Silver badge
    Joke

    "Please pay an extra £5pcm to enable odd numbered frame rendering".

    1. W.S.Gosset Silver badge

      "Please pay an extra £10pcm to enable sensible frame rendering".

      1. David 132 Silver badge

        “Special offer this month! Pay £15 each per month to get hardware acceleration on the Red and Green channels, and we’ll allow you to combine that with your existing ‘Basic Blue’ complementary rendering for free!* Experience hardware acceleration in full colour!”

        *terms and conditions apply. Combined RGB acceleration may only be used until Jan 1, 2023 or launch of next generation GPU, whichever is sooner. Not valid in Hawaii, Alaska or Stoke-on-Trent.

  6. Wade Burchette

    Try the new NVidia RTX 5090 Ti, now free for the first 30 days.*

    * Credit card, valid email, and active mobile number required. After the first 30 days, a one-time payment of $499.99 will be processed and you will automatically be enrolled in the NVidia PLAY! program for $34.99 per month. DLSS, PhysX, and NV encoder are additional monthly fee each. By enrolling in the NVidia PLAY! program, you agree to allow NVidia to collect usage telemetry and insert relevant advertising into the game. Failure to pay will limit the video card to 20 FPS in all applications, including the operating system.

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      What brick and mortar or online store is going to stock and ship orders for something that's "free", unless they get a cut of post-sale revenue?

      There's a reason why "freemium" only exists for software, and has never been tried for hardware.

      1. Morten Bjoernsvik

        Hardware subscriptions exists

        Oracle Exadata

        IBM mainframes

        Any cloud provider

  7. sreynolds

    They must me using their own product....

    Have they jumped on the crypto wagon or what?

    1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: Have they jumped on the crypto wagon?

      Yes, They encrypt your data and it costs you an arm and both legs to unlock it.

      Gives a new slant on 'ransomware'...

      Nvidia is going to shoot itself in the foot big time if AMD comes up with a performant Graphics card without the subscription.

      Eat this Nviria execs... -->

      1. Cederic Silver badge

        Re: Have they jumped on the crypto wagon?

        While this would be true, the article suggests it's not the distributed gaming cards that will have software services added.

        The cards are already priced well above the $100/year revenue mark; Nvidia are looking at how to achieve that through provision of software services to people that didn't buy cards.

        Of course, it's a slippery slope so I am nonetheless glad that AMD (and the newer entrants in the market) are there to keep them honest. Cynically though the moment one of them makes that switch the others will see the added revenue and join them - they don't even need to collude.

        1. zuckzuckgo

          Re: Have they jumped on the crypto wagon?

          >The cards are already priced well above the $100/year revenue mark; Nvidia are looking at how to achieve that through provision of software services to people that didn't buy cards.

          More likely they want to leverage their base of installed cards, making them essential to access future cloud services. By developing or convincing others to develop such services Nvidia can achieve higher profit margins for both.

          Essentially trying to copy Apple's business model.

  8. Howard Sway Silver badge

    virtual economies within the 'verses, with NFTs, real-estate, and cryptocurrencies as the backbone

    This all sounds like a company deranged by greed, basing the company's future on a vision of a world of worthless bullshit that only a small percentage of real people would be willing to spend their real money on. For sure, their CAD stuff could well be a great earner, but only if put to use designing real world things, rather than worthless NFTs in 3D Virtual Happy Stupid Land.

    1. yetanotheraoc Silver badge

      Re: virtual economies within the 'verses, with NFTs, real-estate, and cryptocurrencies as the b...

      Howard Sway wrote: "only if put to use designing real world things, rather than worthless NFTs in 3D Virtual Happy Stupid Land"

      From the article: "a per seat software subscription for professional designers and creators, which we estimate at 45 million"

      Since 45 million is about one out of five Instagram users worldwide, their idea of professional almost certainly means designers of Happy Stupid Land.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The car model breaks somewhere along the line

    So here we have Nvidia saying that car manufacturers will pay Nvidia a small(er) upfront amount for kit that can be upgraded over the air when the car owner decides they do want some additional feature after all, and they'll take a cut of that upgrade.

    And on the other hand we have Uber, Waymo and others saying that the driverless taxi is the future and that no one will own their own car any more.

    (Invest in both companies and be sure to be disappointed!)

    1. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: The car model breaks somewhere along the line

      The breakage will occur because they're all at it. Stellantis projects it will get about 20 billion Euros in revenue from software subscriptions by 2030 and they're actually a car manufacturer. (Its products include Fiat/Chrysler, Citroen, Jeep and a whole bunch of other marques -- look them up.)

      So you've got everyone and their dog after a revenue stream from drivers, along with government (taxes), government (tolls and other charges) and parking owners/revenue collectors. At some point this juicy orange will become a rock. (The initial response will be to make subscription based features mandatory 'for safety/environment reasons' since legislators are at bargain basement prices these days.)

      The only way I can see them getting to their trillion dollars target is by the Fed printing dollars so fast that you'll need a few thousand to do your weekly grocery shopping.

  10. Mr Anonymous

    Bullshit

    Car makers can't get a couple of hundred $£ from punters for satnav updates judging by the number of phones using maps apps, but these tossers reckon they'll get $300B. Kiss my sss you greedy fcukers.

  11. redpawn

    Defective Autopilot

    I want that!

    And I expect to pay thousands each year for updates to make it less defective. Lawyers will eat this stuff up as the body count of pedestrians rises. Next they will want automatic self-tinting glass which will stay too dark to drive unless you re-up your subscription.

  12. Dacarlo
    Thumb Down

    And the moment that happens...

    ...I'll switch from Nvidia to AMD for GPU.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: And the moment that happens...

      Absolutely this. I’ve always bought nvidia without thinking about it… but guaranteed all the others will jump on the same bandwagon :/

    2. Shepard

      Re: And the moment that happens...

      No you won't.

      AMD doesn't have CUDA, Iray SDK, RTX, DLSS, and Tensor cores to name just a few things.

      Also they still have worse drivers at least on Windows.

  13. aki009

    Stock market bait...

    This pipe dream will only be true when that $1T is worth $100B in 2022 bucks, thanks to inflation. In the meantime it's only intended for blue eyed analysts and investors.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    My car is full of chips

    Darn kids, eating in the back seat!!

  15. StinkyMcStinkFace

    You compare this to Tesla like this is a good thing?

    This is THE reason why I'll never buy a Tesla.

    I'm all on board for electric vehicles, I've owned hybrids since 2005. Now I have a plug-in. Because of this bullshit Tesla is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned.

    NEVER do SAAS. I'll be a dirt farmer before I do subscriptions.

  16. Shepard

    Ehh...

    And by "$100bn from gamers" they mean "$100bn from miners", right?

    Because as long as NVIDIA and their OEM partners aren't putting more than a token effort to stop the mining on consumer cards they won't be getting a cent from real gamers.

  17. hottuberrol

    Ahem. Rolls Royce has been charging airlines by the hour for jet engine use for maybe a decade now....

    Whats the venn diagram of people on this forum who say they wont rent hardware and people with a disney+/netflix/prime/sky+ subscription ?

    And is the overlap known as the hypocrisection ?

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