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Australia's Federal Court has described Facebook's explanation of how its tech works as "divorced from reality" in ruling against it in a landmark privacy case. Facebook tech made it before the bench because in 2018 The Office of the Australian Information Commissioner (OAIC) sued The Social Network™ over the This Is Your …

  1. low_resolution_foxxes Silver badge

    Cookies should come with a health warning statement similar to tobacco.

    None of this nonsence about "personalised experienced". Ads, stalking, monitoring, forced selling your sexuality, plus any of the school information you put in your Facebook bio.

    1. cipnt

      Or just modify all browsers to only store cookies with explicit consent, similar to how today we are prompted to share location data

      1. Snake Silver badge

        Re: store cookies with explicit consent

        But you pretty much well can do that now, using the tools built in to your current browser. Set your cookie policy to "www.facebook.com = block", delete your cookies at every close of the program, and you're set.

        But almost no one wants to take any level of effort to actually *do* these sort of things...

        1. anonymousI

          Re: store cookies with explicit consent

          We shouldn't have to *do* them.

          Why should users have to go through that rigmarole every time on close because Facebook et al are usurping their rights?

        2. Steven Burn

          Re: store cookies with explicit consent

          IIRC, it's not that simple, you'd also need to block *.facebook.com, *.fb.com, along with whatever else they've decided to use this time.

          1. sniperpaddy

            Re: store cookies with explicit consent

            Plus the hundreds of slurpers

          2. A.P. Veening Silver badge

            Re: store cookies with explicit consent

            Don't forget anything coming from (IPv6) IP address face:b00k:*

        3. sniperpaddy

          Re: store cookies with explicit consent

          You are missing the point about privacy; "Opt-out" should be the default setting.

          Besides the implicit Opt-In, Facebook have played it fast and loose over the years by changing default settings and adding new ones where a users previous privacy settings get "bypassed".

  2. Chris G Silver badge

    Divorced from reality?

    More like, unable to recognise reality, which probably why the Zuckerverse is now making it's own.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge
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    Who said judges knew nothing about Thar Intarwebs ?

    "the purpose of cookies is to gather personal information – and doing so allowed Facebook to serve custom ads in Australia"

    I'll bet the legal department at FaceBook HQ is kicking themselves over that right now.

    Heh. Good on the judges. I hope a massive fine will ensue.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Who said judges knew nothing about Thar Intarwebs ?

      Yup, probably soaking a bus ticket in a saucer of warm milk at this very moment.

      1. Archie Campbell

        Re: Who said judges knew nothing about Thar Intarwebs ?

        Would that be the judicial attempting a new method of avoiding kangaroos? Whereas clearly facebook was actually _targeting_ Australians, with whom their own judiciary have a needlessly emphasised relationship which extends to any approach speed whatsoever.

    2. Steven Burn

      Re: Who said judges knew nothing about Thar Intarwebs ?

      Hoping so, but wouldn't hold my breath (don't fancy dying of asphyxiation)

  4. Magani
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    Where's Mr T?

    "The decision allows the OAIC to serve legal documents on Facebook Inc. in pursuit of its privacy suit."

    I love it when a plan comes together.

    Hannibal Smith - A Team

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Faceballs

    Suffer in ya jocks Zuck!

  6. thedogandduck

    Nice to see their T&Cs being used to keep them on the hook

  7. Martin Summers

    I find most users of Facebook are somehow divorced from reality.

    1. b0llchit Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Yes they are, divorced from reality.

      Reality is that place where you add drugs to escape from reality. Facebook is a pusher of dopamine and infuses ads. Most users are serious addicts escaping from reality by means of dopamine kicks and mind numbing targeted ads.

      1. eldakka Silver badge

        Reality is the illusion caused by a lack of drugs

        - me mid-80's, probably stolen from someone else

    2. JDPower666 Bronze badge

      How's the view up there?

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'm pretty sure that facebook cache's are completely supplied and supported by facebook and the "network operator" literally only hosts the physical hardware with no access to them. So I'm not sure how this court has ruled they are not part of facebook.

    1. -v(o.o)v-

      They are.

  9. Ken Hagan Gold badge

    If Facebook's position is that they don't do business in Australia, presumably they wouldn't have a problem with Australian ISPs blocking FB's servers.

    1. HildyJ Silver badge
      Pint

      I like that idea

      Instead of an insignificant fine, let the court give the childish Zuck a timeout.

      Order Australian ISPs to block Farcebook for three months.

      1. LybsterRoy Bronze badge

        Re: I like that idea

        Whilst I love the concept of blocking Facebook I fear that you'll find most addicts would kick up a bit of a fuss about it.

        1. SundogUK Silver badge

          Re: I like that idea

          ...And?

      2. Steven Burn

        Re: I like that idea

        If only they'd done that before he was conceived .....

  10. AdamWill

    Perspective

    Facebook lawyer: "With respect, your honour, I think you'll find it's reality that's divorced from Facebook".

    1. eldakka Silver badge

      Re: Perspective

      Reality filed for divorce quite some time ago, but Zuck seems to be ducking the process servers.

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