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The Nobara Project is a fresh flavour of Fedora 35 aimed at Linux gamers and streamers. It's very new and the website is mostly just a placeholder, but it's already causing controversy. Windows is the default OS for PCs so PC games mostly tend to aim at Windows. If you want to run your games on Linux, that involves a bit of …

  1. Paul Kinsler Silver badge

    The more upstart distros ...

    ... the better, and why not?

    On the other hand, Slackware 15 has just arrived ... :-)

    1. sad_loser

      Re: The more upstart distros ...

      I have been playing all the windows games on pop-os using steam - been absolutely flawless so far.

      You have to tick a box saying ‘use beta release comparability ’ on steam settings.

  2. JessicaRabbit

    Doesn't really seem to be pushing the state of the art though really. It's just Fedora with some extra packages. The projects pushing the state of the art are things like Wine, Proton and of course the kernel itself (FUTEX2’s sys_futex_waitv() system call is being added to Linux Kernel 5.16.)

    1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Distros intended for users who just want a platform to run whatever it is they use their computer for don't usually want and a better off without distros that push the state of the art. Bleeding edge distros exist for a different audience.

  3. NoneSuch Silver badge
    Mushroom

    The Second...

    ... I can play my games on Linux, my Windows 10 install will be gone. That's the only thing I cannot do on Linux yet, and MS knows it. They are pressuring game creators to use DirectX and other proprietary MS tech and force their platform down peoples throats.

    Yet, the more they squeeze the greater the number of independents who use Vulkan emerge. There is hope. Support studios who offer Linux based content and the others will follow the money train.

    1. Boothy Silver badge

      Re: The Second...

      If you're a Steam user, and you've not done so yet, check out protondb.com.

      They basically list everything in Steam, and if it works on not on Linux (including if it's native, not just if it's via Proton), and they give it a rating. Gold or higher, works fine, Silver or lower, has glitches, or doesn't run.

      Currently around 80% of all types of games in the top 100 and 1,000 are Gold++, with 60% Gold++ in the top 10.

      Change this to single player games, and this jumps to around 90% for the top 100 and 1,000, and 80% for the top 10 *

      [*] The two in the top 10 that aren't Gold++, i.e the 20% fails. one is a Silver, so runs with minor issues, and the other is unrated currently, but comments suggest it works fine.

    2. Updraft102

      Re: The Second...

      I play many Windows games that are DirectX only on Linux, and with frame rates that are on par with Windows, and better in some cases.

  4. nematoad Silver badge

    Maybe not.

    "Gamers demand high performance over more traditional Linux virtues such as reliability or security. "

    Then they are misguided and if they introduce threats and security problems into Linux then I suspect that they will get short-shrift.

    If they want to live in a Wild-West sort of place where performance is all that counts and security takes second place then I would suggest that they stick to the Windows ecosystem and leave those of us who value stability, reliability and security to an OS that does offer these things.

    Of course I would like to be able to play games without all the workarounds but if that means painting a big target on my system saying "Malware welcome here." then I will keep using Wine and all the other offerings available to us.

  5. Valeyard

    Wine

    It keeps being mentioned here as if it's a given that it ever works, and maybe it's just my bad luck but in my opinion it's so so bad.

    The future of gaming on Linux cannot involve wine at all

    1. frankyunderwood123

      Re: Wine

      Yes ... and no...

      Given Valve are betting a lot of money on the Steam Deck and given the fact that Proton is a modified version of wine ... and given the fact that games run as fast, sometimes faster or just a little slower (in terms of FPS), than on windows ... right now, it is the future of games on Linux.

      However, should the Steam Deck become successful - and not end up being another abandoned hardware project from Valve - it may make developers sit up and take notice.

      1. Valeyard

        Re: Wine

        I'm not a gamer at all really, I mainly try wine with windows-only applications in niche things like ham radio or various C64 sprite editors where the community isn't large enough for there to be a wide variety of options

        It's always the same hours-long trying to update to whatever new mutation of wine has come out, get it to run, then watch it fail with the actual application you want to use it on.

        Give all that I wouldn't even bother thinking about it for something as complex and resource-hungry as a game

        1. Updraft102

          Re: Wine

          Maybe you should try that... you might be surprised! I have tried WINE with something as complex and resource hungry as games (namely games themselves), and it works a treat. Over the past 6.5 years I have been using Linux as my only PC OS, I have racked up hundreds of hours in WINE on various titles, and it works very well.

          If you get a game running under WINE to your satisfaction, there is no need to upgrade the WINE version on that title. Use what you know works! This is where Lutris becomes such an indispensable tool. You can assign any title (and it does not need to be games; I run other Windows software in WINE too) to any WINE version, WINE prefix, etc, easily. You don't just have to install one WINE version in Linux and hope that works for everything.

          You can also just run the games from Steam (even if they did not originate there) and use Proton. I have never done that with anything that did not originate with Steam, but I do have a bunch of Steam titles (for Windows) that use Proton and work as seamlessly in Linux as they would from the Steam client in Windows. So much so that on my gaming laptop, I deleted the Windows partition about a year ago. I'd never used it for gaming or more serious work, but it came with the unit, so I kept it just in case until then.

  6. frankyunderwood123

    Pop!_OS - been doing the same thing for a while!

    System76 has Pop!_OS - I've been using it for 6 months, completely ditched windows.

    All of my Steam games work more or less flawlessly, although there's some FPS drops in GTA V.

    Lutris is easily available via their relatively decent software installer.

    I even managed to get RDR2 working perfectly acceptably using this - alas, I got my copy direct from Epic Games, so it wasn't as easy as using Steam.

    Lutris is buggy, but it works with a little bit of fiddling.

    Steam, as we know, is rock solid on Linux.

    I've felt no need to switch back to windows, but if you are a competitive gamer and always buying new titles, I would exercise caution - it may not be for you.

    For all other casual gamers who are sick of Windows, give it a try - very mature OS, very slick, keeps out of your way.

  7. Vocational Vagabond
    Coat

    Fedora, Mature?

    " A mature distro should be able to automatically configure specialist hardware," ... eh what, Mature .. with a lifespan of oh.. 13 months.. yeah right.

  8. lsatenstein

    Error Recovery

    Nobara, like Fedora workstation, is missing the system repair software. System repair software as found on the Server netinstall version.

    Aside from Fedora omitting / forgetting this repair stuff, Nobara, based on Fedora is also missing it.

    A bugzilla report about Workspace and Fedora 36 upcoming has been reported as a bugzilla entry

    I prefer Nobara to vanilla Fedora xx.

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