Well, that came completely out of the blue
I am shocked, shocked.
US Federal Bureau of Investigation director Christopher Wray has named China as the source of more cyber-attacks on the USA than all other nations combined. In a Monday speech titled Countering Threats Posed by the Chinese Government Inside the US, Wray said the FBI is probing over 2,000 investigations of incidents assessed as …
And the only "win" you can provide is Huawei.
You needed a racist President and an entire Government to get that "win".
I don't think your other actions are as useful as you want people to think.
It would be better if you directed infrastructure companies to harden access to their innards, like by not allowing it from the Internet in the first place.
Oh the fifty cent army is here again, playing the "racist" card.
One would nearly believe China is this great open nation where Western telecom and tech companies have full access to markets with equal rights as their Chinese counter parts.
It would actually be funny if it wasn't so sad we still live in a world where a fascist regime rules 1.4 billion people.
@W.S.Gosset - Which of Mao's subordinates said that? Liu Shaoqi was executed in the Cultural Revolution.
Mao himself died in 1976, remarks from the age of Harold Wilson and Gerald Ford might not be entirely descriptive of the situation today, especially in a country where GDP has grown over 100 times.
@The Man Who Fell To Earth - My point was that tagging a current regime based on a remark at least 46 years old is likely to be misleading. China was still very much an agricultural nation in Mao's time, held back further by the Great Leap Forwards. I would accept that a feudal label could be appropriate at that time (with certain reservations... there is an implied European and religious context). Fascist might be a more relevant term today, with strong industrialisation in many cities, militarism and nationalism. In between, there was a period of opening up and (relative) liberalisation, where both terms were less applicable. It's complicated.
Formally tagged by Mao as his successor.
> might not be entirely descriptive of the situation today, especially in a country where GDP has grown over 100 times.
Cultures don't change that fast -- even communism is just a changing of the guard on the previous ur-structure (that's communism's goal, after all, and how it's always used), but with even less individual freedom allowed. And you might be surprised to learn that every Chinese person you've ever met or seen in the West would be described in an English context as --at the very minimum-- lower-upper class or upper-middle class.
Consider that in June 2020, China's Premier proudly announced to China and the World that now only 40% of China earns less than $4 per day. Median salary has been subsequently estimated in the West at IIRC something like $4.20/day, $1533/yr. Australia's median salary May 2021 was A$172.71/day,A$62,868/yr or at today's FXrate ~$123/day, ~$44,900/yr. Food IS cheaper, to be fair, but not to that extent: if you freezeframe and examine food market prices in the very rare back-country(ish) China TV travel documentaries, you'll notice food is approximately 1/3 UK prices for fruit&vegetables, although only about half-price for meat.
If you buy Chinese-made goods, then by modern Western definitions, you're mostly buying the product of slave labour.
I didn't make a note of the (ex)Prince who said something similar last year or 2020. But I just tried googling his name and "feudal" and he said something similar 2017 too.
This consciousness of being elite is an idea of hierarchy that has continued from the feudal society. Those who have dominant positions for some reason feel that they are inherently or by acquisition nobler than others and thus have the qualifications to discriminate against others. The Bolshevik thought that came from the Soviet Union is precisely this racist thinking. This is not in line with the Communist ancestry they claim, nor the dictatorship of the proletariat they claim. It is a purebred feudal ideology that is a dictatorship against the proletarians."
(Whole article looks interesting -- might take a proper look at that later)
@W.S.Gosset - "the (ex)Prince who said something similar" Wei Jingsheng has some interesting ideas. However, I would suggest that both feudalism and the elitism of the Chinese Communist regime are both examples of a broader phenomena: the rich and powerful think up rules so that they stay rich and powerful.
@W.S.Gosset - "Lin Biao" Thanks for the reference.
"Cultures don't change that fast" Sometimes they do. Something that was unthinkable (e.g. votes for women) can become normal in a generation. Perhaps there are aspects of culture that are more fixed, but some of it could be the group that is loosing power formulating a strategy to re-establish the attitudes that benefit themselves.
"And you might be surprised to learn that every Chinese person you've ever met or seen in the West would be described in an English context as --at the very minimum-- lower-upper class or upper-middle class." Perhaps I should mention that I live in Hong Kong? I'm quite well aware that recent Chinese expatriates are very well-off, but any regular reader of TheReg may have noticed the reports of poor conditions in Chinese tech factories.
It is no more or less open than the US. Look to see how many other nations have massive human rights abuses but which supply the US with oil or whatever else it needs. These are coincidentally never castigated by the US or the UK. Saudi, UAE, Qatar to name but a few. Human rights abuse at the highest level, but, hey, never mind we get cheap oil from them. Let us fuck China instead. Short sighted moronic view of the world.
Upvote, not because of gratuitous "racist" insult but because the US policy of a trade war with China, including the unjustified attack on Huawei, is the worst possible way of dealing with what should be America's largest trading partner. International trade is not a zero-sum game, as tRump clearly believed, and Biden seems to have some of the same infection. Neither will a self-defeating trade war have the slightest impact on the humanitarian issues of concern (any more than boycotting the Olympics will). Try to actually understand the Chinese world view and then you might be able to influence the humanitarian issues.
> US policy of a trade war with China
Errr... over here in the real world, China declared a trade war on the West many decades ago.
They were quite explicit about this internally -- just from the documents I've seen, it was well-established policy by the '80s, and they were stating that as at least a goal going back to at least the '50s. Nothing new there -- this has been a standard pattern for China going back well over a thousand years. Converting imminently-tributary states from "Raw food" to "Cooked noodles", in their princes&mandarins' parlance of a few hundred years ago.
Self-defence vs unprovoked attack seems to offend you. Or possibly you were unaware of what's been going on.
Is that the same FBI that has been involved into almost every terror-attack on US soil?
The same FBI that has been involved into almost every murder of good-hearted political figures on US soil?
Well, blimey! We should listen, as they are surely telling us the truth.
"With the biggest population in the world (and 5 or 6 times higher than the US), would we not expect 5 or 6 times more hacking from the Middle Kingdom?"
Well firstly, no, obviously not, because hacking capabilties and motivation are not a simple function of population size. But even assuming they actually were, how would that be relevant? The article says that attacks from China are more than every other nation combined. You may well expect 5 or 6 times as much hacking from China; the whole point of the article is that it's actually much more than that.
I have issues with the FBI credibility as an org, but they arn't wrong on this. Most of the malicious content we have to deal with is from Xi's digital armies.
However, there are good methods to deny at least 50% of the attacks. As our business is not international we are able to block Email from China by blacklisting IP ranges. This has cut emails detected as malicious by about half per month. Many companies can't do this, but the ones that can - I recommend it.
If we get an Email from out of country that is spam/phishing/malicious - I block the entire subnet :) (less goog/MS) but I would really like to block off goog as it is now the most common platform for criminals to use - both for malicious Emails and links to malicious files in their Docs. Never allow access to unsecured public storage from your companies network. If the file is important - they can send it with our secure portal.
I dont know how many hackers are in Chelts but think about this. The UK standing army is less than 100000 troops for a population of 60M. China has a population of 1.4B and its more militarised that the UK. Its no stretch at all to suggest there are 23x as many hackers on the chinese payroll than the UK has in Chelts; and China has been making a living off industrial espionage for decades, its central to their ethos, so 23x is probably a bit light. So even if they added the chelts numbers to appease your strawman argument, it wouldnt matter.
Hope for your sake your pay isnt dependant on a business that doesnt take this seriously.
The American political system requires a 'them' to give the people someone to be afraid of. It happens to be the turn of the Chinese to fill that role. Do you not think that if they had any actual evidence of wrong doing, it would be splashed all over the front page of the NYT and the lead story on FOX and CNN?
It’s a bit of political theater, but:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdpa/pr/us-charges-five-chinese-military-hackers-cyber-espionage-against-us-corporations-and
“U.S. Charges Five Chinese Military Hackers For Cyber Espionage Against U.S. Corporations And A Labor Organization For Commercial Advantage”
That’s from 2014, and there are plenty more since then. This isn’t new, and it has been splashed all over the media time and time again.
In regards to the FBI, broken clocks and all that…
A/ "persecuted" rather than the correct "prosecuted" reads as an amusing Freudian "slip" by the article's original creator 7yrs ago (Liao)
B/ Your assessment suggests you are thinking of a VERY different article than the one you linked to.
4% != "majority".
Out of 57 cases, I count:
* Definite greed/ego/etc: 1 (one) case (stealing tech and selling its services on the commercial Chinese market from their own company) (guy taking money to attempt to get himself into position to steal for govt but caught too soon, and explicitly claiming just greed, was explicitly state sponsored regardless of his motivation to comply. And boy did he comply)
* Probable greed etc: 1 (one) case (the SICO Micro boys -- dodgy but possibly true)
* Cockups or Bullshit: 4
* Massive govt-theft-divisions links but only convicted of hiding them while rorting research grants: 4 (iirc -- not going to reread that mass to make sure it's not 5)
Everything else: state sponsored.
That's 47 of 57: 82.5% state sponsored. More realistically including the science guys hiding their state service while operating deep inside the research system: 51 of 57 = 89.5%. Or most sensibly 51 out of 53 if we eliminate the cockups as being cockups that shouldn't have even been started = 96%
You say that: 17.5% or 10.5% or most sensibly 4% = majority.
Timing...
3 Feb: ex-employees Min Zhong and Xiayang Qiu steal and patent Pfizer treatment
Free option: I used to use Tor for that sort of thing. To nail me into ONE particular country, I "inverted" the parameter for excluding countries: copy in a complete country-list then delete my target-country.
Good for keeping up on BBC iplayer when you're out of the country -- it IP-blocks all non-UK access.
You're out by ~ a factor of 2 : you say ~33%, real number's ~18%.
This chap above makes a good point, provides perspective. i.e., @>50% world, = ~3x what your thesis would suggest.
Nothing to do with the fact that the US, primarily Trump and his fuckwitted followers, have done nothing except demonise China and his successor seems to be not much better. Look to see how much the US break into systems, spy on others - as attested by whilsteblowers - not just demonised by the land of the fuckwit.