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A whistleblower's allegations about spyware maker NSO Group should be investigated by American prosecutors, US House Rep Ted Lieu (D-CA) has said. The informant claimed senior NSO executives offered "bags of cash" to California-based telecoms security and monitoring outfit Mobileum to assist in its surveillance work, according …

  1. Neil McCauley

    oops

    Live your life in such a way that you never have to have a spokesman say: “he has no recollection of using the phrase ‘bags of cash’, and believes he did not do so. However if those words were used, they will have been entirely in jest.”

    1. druck Silver badge

      Re: oops

      I don't know, maybe just the once!

      1. JimboSmith Silver badge

        Re: oops

        I was once offered money by a customer to do something unethical in relation to my job. I said “No” spoke to my manager about it and filed a written report. Customer couldn’t see the problem which wasn’t surprising given what I knew about them.

        1. JimboSmith Silver badge

          Re: oops

          So someone downvoted the fact I didn’t take a bribe. You think I should have done!?!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: You think I should have done!?!

            many people behave unethically and illegally, in small and large ways, perhaps the reason for donvote. btw, there are so many shades between white and black, from the stories I hear brought home by my better half, it's very easy, not necessarily because you're evil / corrupt / whatever, but because turning a blind eye to minor (at first) 'irregularities' is... easier (and people in a large group display rather peculiar behaviour patterns). And, sooner rather than later, 'minor irregularities' become the norm, and they become somewhat more irregular, etc., slippery slope. Not an excuse but I can imagine it's quite an easy, gentle curve - down. What's the difference between an umbrella company trying to cheat the system and their workforce out of tax and due monies, v. large (aka 'reputable') corp doing exactly that? Both are run by unscrupulous individuals to say the least, regardless of whether they stay on the 'correct' side of the law, sit on top, or try to do both at the same time (to finish my pre-Friday rambling with a little diversion inton quantum mechanics)

    2. JimboSmith Silver badge

      Re: oops

      Live your life in such a way that you never have to have a spokesman say: “he has no recollection of using the phrase ‘bags of cash’, and believes he did not do so. However if those words were used, they will have been entirely in jest.”

      If it were me I’d have no recollection of saying “bags of cash” either, much easier to use “sacks of cash” which would hold more and require less of them. Could be more environmentally friendly that way if we’re talking plastic bags/sacks.

      1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

        Re: oops

        I believe the modern nomenclature is "phat stax"

        1. JimboSmith Silver badge

          Re: oops

          I believe the modern nomenclature is "phat stax"

          I’ll take your word for that as I suspect that’s a young person thing, and it’s been a while since I was called young.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @Neil McCauley - Re: oops

      "I never said most of the things I said." -- Yogi Berra.

      1. Strahd Ivarius Silver badge

        Re: @Neil McCauley - oops

        As Albert Einstein once said:

        "most of the quotes the Internet attributes to me are false"

  2. HildyJ Silver badge
    FAIL

    Whistleblower

    Reading the "statements" from the slime and the scum, I think we all know that it's not the whistleblower who is speaking in jest.

    I hope something comes of it but I don't expect it.

  3. Andy The Hat Silver badge

    Who is telling the truth ...?

    The contemporaneous report to the FBI and the result of the FBI's full and thorough investigation (?) should knock any Boris-esque memory lapses on the head ...

  4. imanidiot Silver badge

    So not those words exactly

    The fact the term "bags of cash" comes up "in jest" means that in other parts of that conversation large sums of money must have been discussed, otherwise there is no context to make such a "jest". (Or optionally that the work was by force and there was no compensation but I find that highly unlikely)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So not those words exactly

      nonono, see the 'case British': they joked about parties at Downing Street and then, look, what you see is not what happened, move on, nothing to see here, move on...

  5. Fazal Majid

    Some of our more clueful legislators like Ted Lieu or Ron Wyden have been raising the issue of SS7’s terrible security for years, or more precisely its utter lack of any security, so far to no avail. Next generation signaling protocols like Diameter are a little better, but telcos have to invest in firewalls and audit tools for their signaling networks, something they are clearly unwilling to do. Note that this is not just applicable to legacy telco crap like SS7, BGP security is also a shambles.

  6. Robert 22

    It is ironic that the people who think that vaccine passports, and even vaccinations, are devices for tracking their victims are, by and large, ignoring these sorts of shenanigans.

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