back to article Nottingham University awards cloud finance and HR deal in £29.75m deal 2.5 years after Unit4 upgrade

Just two and a half years after upgrading its Unit4 HR and finance system, the University of Nottingham has awarded a £29.75m deal to Oracle partner Evolutionary Systems. In a contract award notice, the institution, which has around 45,500 students on its books, said it was replacing its existing HR, finance, payroll, and …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I look forward to the headlines

    Five years from now, the project will still not have been delivered and costs will have trebled. The University will still be paying for Business World and will be locked in litigation about licence violations and contractual wrangling.

  2. Citizen of Nowhere

    >a new Oracle Cloud software solution and is expected to replace more than 40 legacy systems with integrated, reliable and secure software that can be accessed from any mobile device

    Data and deity willing, which seems highly unlikely. More likely, they will end up with two of the legacy systems replaced and an arcane mess of middleware plumbing precariously connecting the others to their "Oracle Cloud software solution".

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Well, you didn't think £9K tuition fees would be spent teaching students, did you?

    Wasting other people's money, well at least they're excellent at something.

  4. AceGrace

    It's amazing really. Do people not learn that these things always go wrong?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's Ok

    They will keep harassing their alumni to support the students

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It's Ok

      Alum here. Can confirm.

  6. Paul Johnston

    Not sure

    How an HR system, yes we do need them, will create a step change in Teaching and Research?

    Here the biggest complaint about HR is the time taken to recruit staff and issues with extending fixed term contracts.

    Even sorting that out isn't going to make much difference YMMV

  7. TheMeerkat Bronze badge

    The university has Computer Science courses I presume? Would not it be useful for the students to take part in real software development taught by people who actually program instead of outsourcing it?

    1. plunet

      They do have CS courses and students. But I struggle to understand how getting the students to program up this requirement would make any sense? Assuming the students can pull it off, after they have graduated who would be keeping the product up to date to meet changing business and regulatory requirements, fix bugs, patch components they have used, and generally support the end to end solution. And you have also got the complication that you have student data subjects probably requiring admin access to the very backend systems that govern their fees, rent payments for halls, and all manner of other key business data. Yeh...

      1. TheMeerkat Bronze badge

        There are people who teach the students. Can they program, or they can only teach?

        And students would have additional practice under the guidance of their teachers.

  8. EnviableOne Silver badge


    integrated, reliable and secure software that can be accessed from any mobile device

    in anyone's experience is this oracle

  9. TRT Silver badge

    Well I can see why they'd want to ditch Unit4. Not had any great experiences using this software. Appalling UX.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This just goes to show that even centres of learning are stuffed full of the stupid.

    1. TRT Silver badge

      These sorts of decisions are made by management. They have transferable "skills".

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