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The Clop ransomware gang pwned a managed service provider with access to the UK's Police National Computer, dumping data on its dark web leaks site – but officials deny that police data was compromised. Dacoll, a Scotland-based MSP, was attacked in October by the notorious criminal crew. Reports surfaced in the Mail on Sunday …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Dacoll

    That name brings back memories. My first job out of school (mid 1980s) was at the local council, and involved using their new Dacoll PC (green screen text, CP/M and twin 5.25" floppy disks) working on SuperCalc spreadsheets. Those were the days

    1. elDog

      Re: Dacoll

      We really should get back to those days. That would foil those pesky ransomware malfeasants!

      And to be safe, when we're back in those days, pull the plug on the intertubes/arpanet.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

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  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Having recently come out of a contract with them, LOL

  4. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    No data was obtained by hackers

    If you want access to police data you have to buy it from a copper like any other journalist ( unless you're a funny handshake pal)

  5. A Nother Handle
    Paris Hilton

    3

    The number of paragraphs I read before I worked out that Dacoll isn't a Member of the Scottish Parliament. I thought it was rude of the Reg to omit their first name, then I thought maybe they're like Madonna or Rylan.

    1. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

      Re: 3

      Yes, that's what MSP means in Scotland, Reg.

  6. Slx

    Is it just me? Or does the name make sound like they have just have one computer, probably called something like MAVIS Mark 1, sitting in some 1950s basement being programmed using punch cards and patch cords?

    1. katrinab Silver badge
      Trollface

      No, it is way more modern than that. It is a Fujitsu BS2000, which was released in 1975.

  7. Frank Bitterlich

    So "only" ANPR data....

    ... then how did they get pictures of passports? From drivers holding them up while speeding to a) hide their face behind them or b) assist with their identification?

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hmm, NDI ay? Very interesting as they do make a piece of software to act as a gateway to the PNC which is old, Windows-only and dependant on MS-SQL Server.

    I have to deal with one of their competitors that supplies a similar product; also Windows-only but based on Oracle and it's an awful pile of junk that's around 15 years old and full of bugs and security holes that they refuse to accept as problems - e.g. incorrectly formed client request throws unhandled exception and crashes the server process, unsalted passwords stored in database using symmetric encryption using an easily retrievable fixed key.

    Obviously the above is another company and another product but people I've spoken to seem to suggest that NDI is a similar story. Certainly they give the impression of sharing the same blasé attitude as their competitor which is that because their software was accredited years ago (by a body that no longer even exists) it somehow remains secure forever and can't be attacked anyway because it will be protected by the firewalls and other infrastructure built around it.

    It does not surprise me one bit that they got pwned.

  9. Pen-y-gors

    How can Plods tell?

    I mean, this hack on the PNC, which may or may not have happened, and if it did (or didn't) would have happened (or not happened) in the past so is nothing to do with the Met. And there's no evidence of anything happening (or not happening), as #BaronessDick has shredded all the logs which might or might not have shown anything. If there was anything to show.

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