"the Start menu refuses to appear when summoned...the solution is to open Task Manager, then kill and restart the Explorer process, which is not too painful though hardly intuitive."
It seems that some people are easily pleased.
An update to the Insiders version of Windows 11 includes a massive list of bug fixes, many of them serious, showing the wisdom of holding back on an early upgrade from Windows 10. Windows 11 was released on 5 October but has proved a problematic upgrade due to onerous system requirements and certain user interface decisions, …
Yep, that's the normal fix when Explorer decides to take a long walk off a short pier, or branches to Fishkill, like when it's trying to connect to a network share that's suddenly stopped, or trying to open a local drive that's decided to be SO local that it won't talk to even the hardware it's installed in...
Can we get confirmation that moving a network mounted folder from A to B still takes an eternity when the folder in question has over, say, 10,000 child objects in it?
"we fixed an issue that kept putting the words 'we fixed an issue' at the beginning of all our bug fix reports."
"we fixed an issue that meant the fix that was supposed to prevent putting the words 'we fixed an issue' at the beginning of all our bug fix reports really worked this time."
"we fixed an issue that meant the fix that was supposed to really work this time to fix the problem of putting the words 'we fixed an issue' at the beginning of all our bug fix reports did actually work this time even though it didn't last time."
"we fixed an issue ... oh fuck it, it's pub o'clock - just install Linux instead!"
" We fixed an issue that meant we had to keep fixing things that aren't broken."
Is what I would really like to hear, one OS that works reliably and only has updates to keep up with advances in work practice.
I also want a flying car, a robobutler and a cold fusion plant for my workshop.
Agreed - the only RSX-11M crashes that I ever had were caused by hardware faults (or an idiot disconnecting the power lead!). VAX clusters were also robust - one system that I looked after kept going after an idiot pulled the lead from the star coupler that resulted in one computer having loss of local access to all disks. VMS noted that the other member of the cluster still had access and rerouted all disk access over the Ethernet to the other member. Apart from a slight slowdown there was no impact on the application software either when the fault occurred or when the lead was plugged back in restoring the normal access path.
The NT kernel in Windows still shows many influences from VMS (not surprising as David Cutler was responsible for RSX-11M, VMS and Windows NT).
I run two Windows machines - both currently on 10.
Thankfully, one cannot run 11 (the other could) and I really get tired using two different versions at the same time. Hence, Microsoft have made it quite clear I need to remain on 10. Indefinitely.
Then permanently wander off to MacOS and/or a flavour of Linux. (Already have an M1 Mac mini and a Linux box. So neither is unfamiliar.)
Ironically, I do have 11 running - in Parallels under MacOS. But will probably scrap that when my trial comes to an end. The only way I would keep it is if Microsoft offer an ARM licence for 11.
...not for the punters. My business is supporting home & businesses who are already on the Win platform, and by and large, it's a fine experience. If Linux ran the stuff most people wanted, I'd almost be tempted, given MS's shenanigans, but we're not there yet.
I look at "This PC doesn't currently meet the minimum system requirements to run Windows 11". as another blatant ADVERT in Windows 10, in the same way "Get Windows 10" was, and ask why the world's Competition and Markets authorities, aren't clamping down on this type of advertising?
It's market abuse, plain and simple. A prime place in the near monopolistic desktop OS Windows product that can't be bought by any outside party, that they use to advert their new wares.
Google are the same, they have an advert on the search page today, prime spot below the search box for YouTube 'shorts'. aka TikTok videos. Yet, TikTok (as an example) can't advertise in that spot.
The fact that something as fundamental as the Start Menu or the settings screen can so easily go AWOL on so many machines does nothing to instill any confidence as to the quality of the rest of the OS, even though the kernel itself and most other things are actually quite robust now.
I continue to detest software that doesn't put up meaningful error messages for the end user when it runs out of options to make something work.
Reinstate your testing team.
Stop using users as guinea pigs for your half-arsed, rushed, releases.
Oh and whilst you're at it, can the telemetry.
It shouldn't be this hard.
I've stuck W11 on my daily driver just to try and get used to it. For me, personally, it's probably 90% meh and 10% what? Why the hell would you do that? And unfortunately, the 90% that is good news (good as in I don't notice anything), that 10% is utterly jarring to the point it actually interrupts what I am doing/wanting to do.
When IT pro's have to stop and think about how to do simple tasks, anyone with half a brain would think that there are things that need to be changed.
I wouldn't (yet) go quite so far as to call this utter crap. Just crap, but come on - most of that 10% is an own goal. Stop it.
Example of needless change/steps added: I want to give my NIC a static IP address:
Right-click on my network icon in the notification area. Don't left-click though because that brings up a whole different dialogue
Click Network and Internet Settings
Hmm ok - so far looks ok. Seems to have a fair bit of info that could be useful at first glance.
Another meh/ok - everything I might need seems to be here.
IP Assignment Automatic (DHCP) with an Edit button to the right.
Now there's a drop-down box.
Click the drop-down and I can choose manual.
Oh ffs - now I have to choose to turn on IPV4 and/or IPV6 and under each I can now finally set the static settings.
But wait... DNS encryption - ok... good... but NOW you need some narrative. What this does won't always be obvious to some users.
It's just messy. It's a metric shit load of extra steps that shouldn't need to be there.
Right-click the network icon. Click Network & Internet Settings. Now show me a summary of network cards, let me right-click the one I want and choose properties. Everything else can be put there.
I realise I am nit picking over things and I am not averse to change at all but it's change for the sake of change that adds no value - it certainly doesn't make things any easier or faster to achieve: quite the opposite.
Inquiring minds want to know- did they leave the legacy control panel in place like they did with windows 10? because if that's the case, it's the same process as windows7, except that you have to open a run dialog and put in "control" to spawn the windows 7 style control panel...
Or you know, download the signatures via a secure channel and use that to confirm it wasn't tampered with.
It's not difficult.
Quite a few things do that. The main reason being that it means proxies can cache it, torrent-style protocols can distribute it, local dedicated caching can be set up (WSUS) and you can even use sneakernet to get the update onto machines that don't have much bandwidth.
This means offices can continue working when every machine starts updating itself, as it only gets downloaded from "outside" once, instead of utterly saturating the block's bandwidth so nobody gets to do any work for a couple of days.
I've been running Windows 11 for about two weeks now, and so far the only real problem I've had was one of my own making--I totally hosed the system drive on my computer and, via a MAJOR brain fart, failed to realize what I had done. Got that fixed and since then things have been more-or-less okay.
I can't say that I really notice all that much difference from Windows 10 except that some applications (especially my Firefox browser) are noticeably faster to come-up than before. I downloaded Winaero Tweaker because I knew there would be some things I wouldn't like, such as the two-layer context menu. That is nothing more than an annoyance to me. Most of the tweaks I made were the same ones I used in Windows 10. I haven't run into any serious bugs, but this isn't a work computer on a corporate network, either.
Having upgraded my hardware to a 3rd gen Ryzen 5, TPM 2.0 was not an issue. Replaced all my spinning rust (except for an 'emergency' external USB drive) with an m.2 NVME system drive and SSD for the rest, the system is about 5-8 times faster--the computer boots to a usable desktop in about 20 seconds from a cold start. I did this while still using Windows 10.
Overall I guess I'd say that Windows 11 works tolerably well, for me. I wouldn't presume to speak for a corporate environment.
I'd missed the checkbox to opt for Windows 10 instead of 11 when I bought the Mrs a new Dell (they had a pricing oopsie, and to my great surprise they honoured it). The nicest thing I can say about Win11 is that it hasn't yet pissed my wife off. Win7->10 did. WinXP->7 did. So they must be doing something... if not right, then less wrong.
ITMA: If you are referring to my post, then I will reiterate that I'd already made the hardware changes while still using Windows 10. I didn't know about Windows 11 until well after the changes were made. I may have unintentionally conflated some conditions to make it appear that Windows 11 was responsible for the massive increase in speed of my computer--mea culpa. What I was trying to say was that even with the new hardware, I still noticed an increase in system speed.
I did not change the hardware to meet any conditions for Windows 11.
The only change that I am aware of in Windows that might help with speed is a new memory management system, and, as I said, I do notice an increase in speed. Of course, as always, YMMV.
> Windows 11 introduced a novelty in the Windows world: a black screen of death.
That was actually introduced by Windows 7.
I fixed the neighbours' computer - again - and told them not to move it. Of course they moved it and got a black screen. I found out that Windows, running on that particular hardware, was sensitive about which USB port you used for the mouse.
So the really annoy thing is they release an out of band patch you can only get form the Update Catalog and it is 1.6GB as it has all the patches in it that you have already applied and obviously don't need.
MS really need to stop do this stupidity. Just provide the new patch as as a standalone and FFS fix printing so I can actually patch my Print server already.
But how would Apple gouge 4x the price for a larger SSD then? (that's built into the arm silicon and degrades from day one, with no way of replacing it. The landfill clock starts ticking as soon as you take the new arm-based MacBooks/iMacs from the box).
All fool you for buying one of the latest landfill crud macs. I won't be buying another. The trashing of the Updates Page in High Sierra, by pulling the plug on the Update Page CSS formatting servers, said everything about Apple I needed to know. Three months to fix, after a high-profile campaign, just wasn't good enough, by that time, people had replaced their machines, and the devious methods of Apple had done what it needed to, forced people to upgrade.
The magic words to deploy in business environments when asked about "when can we get W11"? are...
ROI - Return On Investment.
What planet are Microsoft on if they think a small business with 70+ machines, all of which are perfectly good capable machines running W10, are going to chuck them all and buy new ones just to run W11.
Personally, without a bloody good reason not too, I'm going to do what I did with W7. Wait until EOL approaches and we've had maximum value out of the cash we've spent on machines.
Had to wipe a customer's new HP Ryzen Win 11 box back to the metal after it started BSoD'd endlessly, even during attempts to factory reset. I have *never* seen this behaviour on any new machine and as a result, I now don't believe the only Ryzen issues are the slowdown that was reported due to off-balanced cores.
Microsoft do seem to suffer from big company itis at times.
They rushed Windows 8 when 7 was going great guns, diverting devs off Windows Mobile at a time it just had a chance to succeed. Result: People hated Windows 8 and Windows Mobile died from neglect (MS owned Skype at the time and didn't even have a native skype client).
And now they've rushed 11 when nobody needed it. All they had to do was wait until spring - the PC makers would have been happy as it would have been a boost at a lull time of the year.
Having said that I quite like it. Though I got on with Win 8.1 (not even i'm sick enough to have managed to like Win 8).
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