.NET Foundation admits it 'violated the trust of project maintainers'

The beleaguered .NET Foundation has apologised, again, and reversed one of the policies that saw its members revolt. The Foundation's had a tricky few weeks, after a board member resigned and complained the reasons for doing so were misrepresented. Members have also complained the organisation had made unauthorised changes to …

[pavel.petrman]

Anyone sees an apology anywhere?

"This move was a mistake," he wrote. "The board deeply regrets that this happened." - Nothing about being sorry, nothing about "we did" anything.

"The .NET Foundation violated the trust of project maintainers because they were under the impression.." - All their fault, no?

I get it, Microsoft owns the house now, people should have reat the TOS's, yes, yes yes... But as long as we call these above mentioned utterances apologies, there will be no real apologies, and more importantly no incentive to act decently.

Kudos to Microsoft, though, for pledging not to cock up in this particular way again. Future will show what the pledge is worth.

[Anonymous Coward]

Tut-tut, shouldn't have happened.

"... the changes described restore their trust in the Foundation." I'm always amazed how small a gesture it takes for a large number of people to respond "Oh that's all right then". Usually the people - always a large number every half generation - that know nothing about big corporations, Microsoft or especially Microsoft history.

I'm thinking this should be called Seattle syndrome.

[AndrueC]

Re: Anyone sees an apology anywhere?

I don't actually have a dog in this fight but I'm confused by your post.

Them: 'This move was a mistake' means 'we did something wrong'.

Them: 'The board deeply regrets that this happened' means 'we're sorry.'

So to me that reads like 'We're sorry that we did it'. And yet you have commented 'Nothing about being sorry, nothing about "we did" anything.'

"The .NET Foundation violated the trust of project maintainers because they were under the impression.." - All their fault, no?

This part of your post seems ambiguous, are you implying that the board is blaming the maintainers? To me it seems that they are accepting blame for violating the trust of project maintainers and accepting blame for not communicating their reasons at the time to the same people.

Time will tell - that I agree with. But this whole cock-up might be the result of communication failure ;)

[BOFH in Training]

Re: Anyone sees an apology anywhere?

There are a billion ways MS can cock up.

They will just have a note in the procedures saying not to do this again as this is a cock up.

This will not restrict them from cocking up in all the other ways.

[chuckufarley]

Nat's own words here

https://www.theregister.com/2018/06/08/nat_friedman_github_ceo_elect_ama_session/

[RobLang]

Re: Nat's own words here

This has nothing to do with GitHub and Microsoft. The cock up here is purely within the Dot Net Foundation. The actions were taken by board members - all are elected by the community and MS only "vets" the chair.

[RobLang]

Nothing to do with Microsoft

I know commenters will go on about Microsoft but it's nothing to do with them. The dotnet foundation is independent of MS, it's run by the community and paid for by a bunch of corporations that rely on the ecosystem. Sure, MS have an interest but this cock up and nonpology is purely the Foundation's to own, not MS.

[amacater]

No matter whose cock-up: Devs - Run, don't walk, away from this Foundation now and drop .Net as a tainted ecosystem. It really doesn't matter that it was Microsoft, is now an independent Foundation's mistake. Once you have reason to lose trust - move away.