Worst part is
She'll just bribe the judge with fries and win.
Advertisements are so prevalent that many of us have developed internal ad blockers and probably don't rush out for a cheeseburger just because we saw one on the telly or a poster. But that's exactly what happened to Ksenia Ovichinnikova when she clocked a banner depicting succulent signature dishes by McDonald's, specifically …
I would have thought that extended feeling of bloating, nausea, and stomach ache that follows eating a fatty, sugar and sodium loaded cheeseburger, especially when she was not used to it, would have been ample self-flagellation to compensate for her sin.
If she feels she needs more suffering to atone for her moral failings, perhaps McDonalds could be persuaded to provide her with another cheeseburger.
Somehow I doubt the McDonald's will be presenting this argument in court.
On the other hand, didn't a pizza chain run a campaign "You were right - our pizza did taste like cardboard. We are proud to introduce our new recipe!"
Or, with a tech twist, take this letter from a vendor my company received after POODLE (or BASH) had the world in a mad panic about SSL. In the letter the vendor explained that we had nothing to fear from these CVEs. The reason? They only used good ol' plain HTTP for their SAAS. No SSL vulnerabilities to worry about.
"So, the argument is that she did not break the fast because the supposed "meal" was neither food nor edible."
The end result was a foodstuff almost indistinguishable from any other except for two things. Firstly, the price, which was slightly higher, and secondly the nutritional content, which was roughly equivalent to that of a Sony Walkman.
- Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch. Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman.
Coat icon, because there isn't one of a hat.
GNU, Sir Pterry
As I understand it, the period of Lent is supposed to represent the 40 days when Jesus is said to have gone into the desert to fast and resist temptation.
Surely therefore McDonald’s is actually providing a service, enhancing the experience by providing a temptation that the lady failed to resist, and she should be paying them for the service rather than suing them.
IIRC from Sunday school some decades back, while jesus was in the desert he was tempted by the devil, so I assume you are saying MacDonalds is evil.
Ever since they stopped doing the crispy volcanic fruit filled pies, I have not been tempted to even go into a MacD's.
But surely this just brings the nonsense all back home. The message I take from that is that Jeebus only lasted 40 days in the desert before he gave into the physiological limits of thirst and hunger. The fact he came back at all only presses home the fact that he never really had the conviction to die for his purported beliefs and should be roundly ignored.
Thank heavens for those Romans who really did the initial experimentation of money vs mouth.
>The fact he came back at all only presses home the fact that he never really had the conviction to die for his purported beliefs and should be roundly ignored.
So you only believe people are sincere if they die for their cause? If you ask me, martyrdom is vastly over-rated as a criterion for veracity. Take witch burning for example. First, the ducking stool. If she drowns, she was telling the truth, and is not a witch. If she floats, she is a witch, and so burn her. Things were so much simpler in those days.
...when Jesus is said to have gone into the desert to fast and resist temptation.
Going somewhere where you can't get stuff isn't exactly resisting temptation is it?
It's a bit like taking a submarine to the bottom of the ocean to "resist the temptation" of popping out for a nice evening walk.
>As I understand it, the period of Lent is supposed to represent the 40 days when Jesus is said to have gone into the desert to fast and resist temptation.
I suppose it is cheating to have a feeding tube up your nose, like I had in hospital. If you are going to fast, then don't starve yourself to death.
"Ovichinnikova said she had successfully fasted through Lent for the past 16 years, but suffered a complete failure of willpower on seeing the ad"
So, McDonald's has just arrived in Omsk? Or, at least, they didn't start advertising until 2019 - otherwise how does Ovichinnikova explain her lack of willpower for 2019 and not for previous years? At least she's being "sensible" and suiing for $14; just imagine how many millions a US-based plaintiff would sue for.
Icon because, well, it's a big mac, innit?
Shows it didn't happen in the USA: In the USA that woman would had added the word "millions" to those $14.
That been said, wouldn't it be nice to be able to make money simply from living a life of indulgence: "Hey, I did take a third helping, besides I started smoking again, and had one too many yesterday evening, that will be $180 please." I could get used to it, and I guess most other people too...
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Maybe get a CT scan in case you have a brain tumour ... need something awry in your brain to convert heavily processed McD "junk food" (being polite) into something I would find irresistible (or in my case, even edible - did have a McD once, a friend worked there & gave me a freebie from their allowance, it was one of the vilest things I have ever eaten)
And yet...millions of people around the world do find McD irresistible. I guess that says more about humanity than McDs. Remember the queues when they reopened after lockdown? Clearly very few people tried making their own burgers or were so crap at it, they went straight back to McDs at the first opportunity. (Or maybe they bought cheap, even shittier burgers from the local freezer shop.)
This kind of food is cheap and tasty (read addictive). For families on a small budget, or with small kids (or both) it's an affordable and easy way to eat out.
It's fine us sneering - I'd prefer to eat only Michelin recommended grub if I could, but for many folks a Maccy D is a treat. Eating Out. No cooking, no washing up afterwards, in a bright cheerful place, rather than a small, crowded flat near the top of an inner city tower block.
I now hear it in this voice... from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (one of the greatest films of all time, IMHO).
Stranger thing, to me. I don't want to go all "Yesterday" the movie, but there was a quarter decent song song that started with 30 seconds of, "Cheese burger, please" over and over. It was funny in the eighties because I didn't eat cheeseburgers. Cheeseburgers were the enemy, initially.
I always assumed it was 'Love and Money' from their song Cheeseburger, but the internet does not validate me. I hate not being validated by my best friend the internet, it brings out my inner psycho.
What do you call a one hit wonder who never actually had one hit?
Love And Money - You're beautiful. I won't link or quote.
First I though that she should have stayed with the nuggets, with birds now officially recognized as the descendants of dinosaurs, and lizard flesh being allowed.
But unfortunately, I read that it's warm-blooded flesh that's no-no, so even dinosaurs and their offspring are off-limit.
Pretty sure that whales and dolphins were classified as fish at some point for religious purposes, though.
No such thing as dinosaurs. Don't you know that Earth is only 6,000 years old? The bones were buried by the Intelligent Designer to test us. If you were able to check the dinosaur bones in the Natural History Museum (now replaced by a blue whale) you would have found that they were cast in plaster.
A Flat Earth, YEC cultist gem
"all the "fossils" u see in museums are fake, but hold on the "real" fossils are in lock down and only freemason scientist can admire them. Here's another fun fact, did u know that in all of known written history the only ppl to find these majestic bones where the freemason that went out looking for them, meaning that in all of written history nobody nowhere has ever mistakenly found any "dino" bone ever."
"with birds now officially recognized as the descendants of dinosaurs, and lizard flesh being allowed."
It was all the way back in 2010 that the Archbishop of New Orleans decided that alligator is considered to be in the fish family.
Seems to me that muskrat is also considered to be a fish in some quarters.
There was this a few years back - purchased in 2009, from just before McDonalds closed down in Iceland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-50262547
Had Ovichinnikova taken a moment to think before she bit into the burger, she could have stored it to be consumed after Lent
I get the humor in which your post was made, but I'd remove 'devoutly.'
I mean whether you (the reader of this comment) believe in the teachings in the Bible or not, *she* claims to yet the whole basis of her case is anathema to what the book actually teaches, so I'd argue she can hardly be devout.
One would expect a *devout* believer of *any* religion to have at least cracked their primary religious text and read a few pages. You'd he hard pressed (outside of a few long genealogies) to find a single page which doesn't say that you alone are responsible for your own thoughts and actions.
"One would expect a *devout* believer of *any* religion to have at least cracked their primary religious text and read a few pages."
You'd think that, wouldn't you? Sadly, however, after many years of observation I would expect quite the opposite.
I have met very, very few people who claim to be "devout" who can actually discuss the prime volume of their favo(u)red mythology in any great detail. In fact, most seem quite content to allow somebody else to tell them what they are supposed to believe about it, usually in return for money. Often lots and lots of money.
Sad, isn't it?
I love it when they tell me to read the bible. I respond by asking them relevant questions. The funny thing is most run away. Those that do respond run away shortly afterwards.
A learned C of E Vicar told me the bible specifically stated the Earth is a sphere and when I proved he didn't have a clue he tried playing infantile word games, so I then shut that down so he blocked me.
i.e. the religious are the wke cancel culture and always have been.
>One would expect a *devout* believer of *any* religion to have at least cracked their primary religious text and read a few pages.
Cripes! We can't have that sort of thing! Only your priest/vicar/pastor/imam knows what the holy words mean. They have the education, and proper holiness training. Goodness knows what chaos would ensue if people started thinking and making up their own minds about stuff.
In the multi-billion dollar world of advertising, which makes everything we buy more expensive than it needs to be, seeing is believing. The cheeseburger ad for example, and just the sight of a pack of cigarettes is enough to make kids take up smoking; so the smokes must be locked and shuttered out of sight. And still we're told that seeing violent images on TV, the movies, and in video games has absolutely no effect whatsoever. Funny, that.
...to her conservator, since she is inherently arguing that she is unable to exercise restraint and good judgement over her life and finances.
And maybe actually, y'know, actually go read the book that lays out beliefs you claim as the basis for your whole suit. It's (almost) entirely about responsibility for your own actions (and God's response to that.)
Lent is a Catholic *tradition* not a tenet of Christianity.
Neither the Torah and Tanakh (the basis of Judiasm - which is far more legalistic) nor the more liberal teachings of the New Testament (the basis of Christianity) teach Lent.
It's more like you may have two separate football (American or otherwise) teams with separate traditions. They're hugely important to their teams, but they're not actually a part of the rules of the game.
Jesus (specifically) would respond to someone following Lent as 'Hey, you do you, but don't confuse this with something that me or my students ever told you to do or not do.'
There's nothing about the idea of Lent that would seem odd or strange to a historic Jewish person.
They'd completely understand the overall idea. After all, one of their textually commanded fasts, The Feast of Unleavened Bread is quite similar in nature.
They'd just tear their robes and stone you as a heretic for whom it was you were fasting and reflecting on, rather than the quite sensible idea (to them) that you should fast and reflect on religious matters. ;)
>There's nothing about the idea of Lent that would seem odd or strange to a historic Jewish person.
Fasting and renouncing worldly things is pretty universal across all religions. From a secular/humanist point of view, it has beneficial effects on physical and mental health. Fasting proves that you won't die if you do without food for a little while, though your greedy tummy tells you otherwise. That is actually spiritually liberating, because you are less bound to your animal appetites, and can concentrate on more important things, whatever those may be. And of course, you won't be tempted by junk food if there is something better to be had.
So, mega fail for our burger-loving orthodox Christian. If you were going to break your fast, couldn't you go for better quality food?
"It's more like you may have two separate football (American or otherwise) teams with separate traditions. They're hugely important to their teams, but they're not actually a part of the rules of the game."
Hence the origins of Rugby Football. And the Holy Schism that is League and Union. (I'm not even going to get into the heretical "American" Football.
Nah. As an honorary driver and platinum-level sponsor of the "Eww yuck Mcdonald's!" Bandwagon Foundation, I believe I speak for the Foundation when we advocate for diversity in tastebuds, but complete intolerance for all things McDonalds.
Like every high-profile sponsor of anything though, I'm a flawed hypocrite. Despite thinking almost nothing coming from their locations qualifies as 'food,' I secretly love their french fries. Don't tell anyone. ;)
Kidding aside, it takes all tastes, and when you're talking about any given restaurant, you're going to have those who don't like the food, and some who violently dislike it.
Given the ENORMOUS size of McD's, when you scale those percentages to the BILLIONS of customers, It should be more funny to consider that there isn't ACTUALLY an "Eww yuck Mcdonald's!" Bandwagon Foundation 501-c with a corporate HQ and fundraisers and everything. :D
>Lent is all about the head of the church exercising control over his flock.
Most of Christianity is about the power of the churches, and not about what Jesus said, as recorded by his disciples. There was no Christian church during the life of Jesus. He was not the Pope. The church stuff took off when the bloody Romans decided to be Christian. Something of a dangerous combination: a revolutionary ideal, and an empire supported by widespread bureaucracy and military force.
Putting aside the issue that Jesus is a mythical figure, the character portrayed in the gospels is not revolutionary so much as apocalyptic. The two go hand in hand as clearly there's no point in obeying power structures if the world is going to end soon.
But the emphasis is much more on sorting *yourself* out in time than it is on bothering to overthrow authorities who will be dead soon anyway. Sure: render onto Caesar, if it keeps the poor fool happy, why not? Doesn't matter, does it? Drink up...
The funny thing about the article is that the woman missed the point of Lent entirely.
I don't follow that tradition, but I understand its theoretical basis in the related religious teachings. Those who don't follow Christianity may not realize the full scope of the silliness of this lawsuit.
Rather than make them feel like I'm preaching, I'll relate a non-religious example to help them understand the full scope of how badly the woman missed the point of Lent.
Imagine a family member who shaved their head to commiserate and relate to the experience a loved one was going through during chemotherapy, in order to bring them closer together and help them feel better about the crap they're going through.
Say that person saw an ad for a wig that they couldn't resist and went out and bought it, got embarrassed at being caught breaking their commitment, and then sued the ad company for their lack of character.
They're missing the point. The point wasn't about having no hair or not having hair. After all, the hope is that the loved one will recover and regrow their hair eventually. It was about making a personal sacrifice to show empathy, and setting aside some time especially to bond with that person and help brighten their day.
The wig-wearer's sin wasn't that she bought and wore a wig, it was that she wasn't focusing on her loved one that was the whole point of getting her head shaved in the first place. You were supposed to be there for the loved one, not off in court complaining about how you have no self control and how bad the optics are for you being seen with hair etc etc.
>I never heard of a farm that grew wet cardboard
Food and agriculture scientists have been working on this for years. First, let's tackle the beef. Cows normally roam around fields eating grass. This is not very efficient. They don't put on weight fast enough. So you stuff the cows with high nutrition foods, such as corn and soya. And forget the roaming around fields bit. Stuff 'em in sheds to eat their high protein food, and fatten 'em fast as possible to go to slaughter.
The beef produced in this way tends to be a bit lacking in flavour and texture, so what you do next is convince people that this is how meat is supposed to taste. The advertisers come into effect here. And before you know it, only gastronomic extremists will want to eat beef from a cow that roamed around the fields, on account of its meat is not so tender as the regular beef that we are used to.
With a moo-moo here
And a moo-moo there
Here a moo, there a moo
Everywhere a moo-moo
With an oink-oink here
An oink-oink there
Here an oink, there an oink
Everywhere an oink-oink
With a cluck-cluck here
A cluck-cluck there
Here a cluck, there a cluck
Everywhere a cluck-cluck
With a quack-quack here
A quack-quack there
Here a quack, there a quack
Everywhere a quack-quack
This is NOT what I would call "traceability".
If she was tempted and failed and she has a problem with that then she really should be judging herself (if she really wants to judge anyone). It seems like she's trying to make McDonalds pay for her weakness. Don't get me wrong: She probably has about 1000% more willpower than me, but the point is that the blame is not with McDonalds.
On the few occasions when I am forced (grandchildren etc) to eat a Mac, I struggle to tell when I have finished the anaemic bun and chips and started eating the pale polystyrene box.
Maybe Our Lady of Omsk could have deliberately eaten the box and thrown away the burger. She would still get the smell. Would that count as Lenten observance? A religious scholar ... actually I don't want to know.
Icon because I don't believe in him either.
The church or your paster wasn't good enough to convince you of your religious conviction or devotion, the church has failed you as they didn't instill the require observance. Sure you're only human and prone to err but the church has failed you. Maccy Ds has simply tempted you and you failed the test, therefore you failed religion and it failed you. Maccy Ds is nothing more than a tool.
Quite frankly all religion is absolute bollocks to my mind, except the buddhists maybe ( Buddhism : "Live a good life and it might work out or it may not, who knows?!" ) most other judeo-chrisitan religions are basiclaly "stop doing that fun stuff you enojoy it's disgusting! you are scum! only God is pure, you're a piece of dogshit he's scrapped of his shoe!".
Frivolous lawsuits like this one should not even be allowed to be filed. She chose of her own free will to eat a McDonalds hamburger. McDonalds is Not responsible for her bad judgement or choices in life. The verdict is in favor for the defendant and the plaintive must pay all court cost and attorney fee's for the defendant plus a $ 10,000.00 fine for filing a frivolous lawsuit against the defendant to be paid to the defendant. Next case.