back to article Xiaomi parties like a winner after coming second on world smartphone sales charts

Analyst firm Canalys has, for the first time, found Chinese firm Xiaomi the world’s second-ranked smartphone vendor, as measured by unit shipments. The firm stated that Xiaomi achieved the feat in Q2 2021, when it enjoyed 17 percent market share, behind Samsung’s 19 percent but ahead of Apple’s 14 points. Canalys’ market …

  1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

    The plan

    Udarniks on track to make the 5-year plan. Praise the party! /s

    Now, where are the UK phones?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: The plan

      >Now, where are the UK phones?

      First we renationalise BT and roll it back into the GPO

      Then we convince the GPO that this telephony business is worth looking at and won't affect the telegram business. Then we get an agreement from the Union of sub-PostMistresses and Allied Trades.

      Then we get the boffins at Dollis hill to start looking at making a mobile phone with valves, rather than brass gears

      1. gandalfcn Silver badge

        Re: The plan

        Amd it all started off with Maggie who, allegedly, was a proud patriot and did everything for her country and not for her wealthy mates.

  2. Potemkine! Silver badge

    as consumers rush to acquire new Galaxy S or iPhone models.

    Consumers? I thought they were just idiots.

    compared with Samsung and Apple, its average selling price is around 40 percent and 75 percent cheaper respectively

    because of that, precisely.

    1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

      its average selling price is around 40 percent and 75 percent cheaper respectively

      To be fair, companies should be required to publish what kind of standards they offer for their workers. Something similar like we have on the eggs. I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least.

      1. MiguelC Silver badge

        Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

        So, what are you waiting for?

        1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

          Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

          I love companies who plaster their website with statements that they are being open and fair blah blah, and then when you want to find out where they actually manufacture their products there is nothing on there and you have to dig. Unfortunately your link does not pass the smell test for me.

          1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

            Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

            Fairphone's work has been well documented. For example, they admit that it's almost impossible to get untainted minerals. But the bigger problem with mass adoption is that the phones are considered several generations behind.

            1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

              Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

              From what I see, these are Chinese phones with legacy technology repackaged as repair friendly. There is some vague information that workers can elect union representative and they have "European standard" 8-hour shifts, but frankly by buying these phones you are supporting a communist regime anyway - the difference is that you get an outdated phone with added fake feel good feeling.

              I have my doubts that Chinese workers could be classed as "free range" with their social score system and other abusive measures.

              1. genghis_uk

                Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

                While I fully support your stance, I can't help but wonder what tech have you actually managed to buy in the last 20 years? In fact, what are you typing on now?

                Globalisation and especially the move to manufacture everything in Asia makes it pretty hard to find anything that is truly free of cruelty to humans.

                1. elsergiovolador Silver badge

                  Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

                  Of course it is pretty hard, because people prefer to not care as long as the product is cheap and they don't see the suffering at their doorstep. So unfortunately it is not always possible to make an ethical choice, because companies willing to maximise profits at all cost have embedded themselves in those supply chains.

                  Since I became conscious about the issue I do research every product I buy, which opened my eyes further as it is now so difficult to find countries of origin, because companies found themselves pants down and are simply too afraid of bad PR, so they hide that information.

                  That being said, I type from a computer I built myself from parts from all over the world and if I had a choice between part made in country X and Y, I'd choose the least evil option.

                  I am in the market for a phone since 2020 and can't really find anything that wouldn't make me feel bad using. I am looking forward for the reviews of the upcoming Xperia 5 III, I read Sony no longer manufactures phones in China.

          2. gandalfcn Silver badge

            Re: I would like to buy a phone made by free range workers paid living wage at very least

            "I love companies .... ). They are simply emulating government and governments are voted in by the electorate so maybe the electorate is the real problem.

      2. gandalfcn Silver badge

        Was that supposed to be comedy?

        1. Mark Exclamation

          Was that supposed to be relevant? Your posts are monotonously boring and predictable.

  3. Big_Boomer

    Congrats Xiaomi, but beware...

    The last time a phone company from China beat Apple for market share, they got kneecapped by the US government.

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "hires 5,000 engineers"

    Am I supposed to believe that there were 5000 engineers lying around waiting to be hired ?

    Okay, it's China, but even in China I would think that an engineer is not exactly the kind of person that waits for a job.

    So that would mean that he hired 5000 newly-minted engineers from China's universities ?

    Hmm. So they'll be getting their experience on the job, then. Good for them, maybe not so good for Xiaomi.

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

      To a certain degree in China (and India) those engineers are being churned out of the universities at a sufficient rate. But more importantly, this isn't a new development and thus there is already a market of skilled and experienced engineers as demonstrated by the rising wages in China.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

        > market of skilled and experienced engineers as demonstrated by the rising wages in China.

        Paying more for skilled engineers because of market demand ?

        Damn commies !

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

          Outside the state-owned enterprise sector there is a thriving market economy. There just is any political freedom.

          1. jgarbo
            Happy

            Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

            China's as capitalist as the West, except for essential industries. That's how they got their billionaires, who are kept on a tight leash. "Political freedom"? Oh, throwing tantrums about the color of the PM's underwear? Childish.

            1. gandalfcn Silver badge

              Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

              Many if the most successful "Western" industries have and had very significant state input even Trumpistan. As I have said for years neither capitalism nor socialism have worked but a mix of the two always seems to. And the most recent proof of that is the PRC.

          2. gandalfcn Silver badge

            Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

            Correction. Inside the state-owned enterprise sector there is a thriving market economy. You are about 40 years out of date.

    2. gandalfcn Silver badge

      Re: "hires 5,000 engineers"

      I know this will come as a big surprise to you but people do actually change jobs (even in Japan) and there are rather a lot of people in China, nearly 1.5 bn. So 5,000 new or moving is no big deal.

  5. Cuddles Silver badge

    Wrong as usual

    According to the figures in the linked report, BBK Electronics is first with well over 20% market share. Samsung is second, Xiaomi is third, Apple fourth. For some reason they only show four vendors in their top five list.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Wrong as usual

      Because BBK are a manufacturer of lots of brands - it's like saying Foxconn are the biggest phone maker in the world

      1. Alumoi Silver badge

        Re: Wrong as usual

        Maker = manufacturer = a person, an enterprise, or an entity that manufactures something.

        So yes. Foxconn is the biggest phone maker.

  6. Charlie Clark Silver badge

    Hard work and good products

    I don't have a Xiaomi myself but those I have seen are impressive and have long since ceased to be clones of other companies' flagships.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Hard work and good products

      So far they have been great.

      I don't need a flagship phone that costs 4x as much as a laptop

      I need >2Gb RAM, an SD card, the same Qualcom chippery everyone else has, a couple of day battery life and a regularly updated unlocked Android.

      If I can pay $100 for that because it's aimed at the Asian market rather than instagram influencers that's fine by me

      1. HildyJ Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: Hard work and good products

        Totally agree, except I don't need an SD card.

        I don't need the newest chips or the biggest storage or the best screen. I don't buy a phone as a fashion statement or to impress my friends. I buy it to use it.

        I buy replacement phones when the battery life becomes problematic.

        What I do want is OS and security updates and this is what worries me about Xiaomi. Android 11 is just now rolling out while Android 12 is already in the developer's channel for a fall release. I also wonder about the frequency and timeliness of security patches. Hopefully the 5,000 engineers can improve this.

        1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

          Re: Hard work and good products

          Security update are more important than version updates, though that shouldn't be as onerous for manufacturers as it used to be. But, perhaps even more important, the Xiaomi phones seem to be well supported by LineageOS making you even less dependent on the whims of the manufacturer, especially once they've decided they no longer need you.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Hard work and good products

            My Redmi7 is still getting security updates on Android 10.

        2. eyestwice

          Re: Hard work and good products

          My Mi 9 Lite is currently on 11RKQ1.200826.002

          Security update 2021-05-01

          Didn't need 5000 engineers for that, did they? 'Just rolling out'? Xiaomi roll out updates faster than any other manufacturer I've bought a phone from.

          I don't mean to be contradictory. Well, I guess I do but not aggressively.

          I can't fault them and their speedy rollout of updates is one specific reason that I like them.

    2. david bates

      Re: Hard work and good products

      I've just bought a Redmi Note 10 Pro.

      Pretty good so far - some niggles - the antenna is nowhere near as good as my old Zenfone 4, and proximity sensor seems a bit hit and miss, and for some reason it often thinks I want settings when honestly I don't.

      I can't see me paying Samsung prices for a comparable phone though.

  7. 89724102172714182892114I7551670349743096734346773478647892349863592355648544996312855148587659264921 Bronze badge

    I hate Xiaomi as much as I hate Samsung for their lack of updates. Fsucking e-waste.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Strange. I get updates all the time on my Xiaomi(s). Recently the last couple have needed to be done manually, but they are there to be downloaded/installed:

      https://c.mi.com//miuidownload/

      1. 89724102172714182892114I7551670349743096734346773478647892349863592355648544996312855148587659264921 Bronze badge

        Compared to Oneplus's support of older phones, Xiaomi is carp.

        1. eyestwice

          Did you get dropped on your head at birth or are you just a Tuesday in general?

  8. Agent Tick
    Unhappy

    Warranty ok.... but

    ...conditions tell the phone is repaired/replaced with refurbished parts?!

    If the phone fails/breaks after a week... you get a pre used replacement - that's a deal breaker!

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