Looks like they trying to break into Nintendo's hand-held market.
Gaming house Steam has just revealed a rather intriguing portable PC. The "Steam Deck" boasts an AMD "accelerated processing unit" (APU) that incorporates four Zen cores that run at between 2.4GHz and 3.5GHz, plus an AMD RDNA 2 GPU and a substantial 16GB of RAM. An RJ45 Ethernet socket, single USB-C and USB-A connectors, …
And the Switch was basically a clone of the Nvidia Shield, which was itself far from the first effort at something similar. When lots of people all have a try at a very obvious idea, it's not really fair to call the latest one a clone just because one of the other later ones happened to be more successful than most.
As I can't enjoy the pictures & the article doesn't mention, does it include a headphone jack so I can plug in headphones & not annoy those around me when I fire up a particularly ear wormy game of Lemmings?
I first heard about this from an article in a different RSS feed, but they were more interested in the fact that you could install a different *nix to it, could wipe it & install Windows if you wanted to (but nobody wanted to), and asking if it could run Crysis.
I just think it sounds like an interesting way of carrying around a computer with more potential (and fewer security issues than) a typical smartphone. It would need a keyboard (because entering text on a D-pad might take far too long), but otherwise I envision this as a potentially useful device for activities other than (and including) games.
The battery life sounds a big hurdle here, but I think a bigger issue is the poor track record Valve have with abandoning their hardware efforts.
Remember Steam Machines being touted?
And the Steam Link devices... I had one. Pretty good. But no longer made or supported.
The Steam Controller too, a decent pad... Abandoned.
Buyer beware. Their corporate structure, being so... fluid... Doesn't make me think they have a dedicated hardware division.
I was logging inn to say this, it's got 'Abandonware' written all over it.
However at least in this instance you would still have a half decent device that could be put to a plethora of other tasks should you have the need and know how. I'm guessing a lot of gamers wouldn't so this could make a tempting used buy.
All PCs and all game consoles have abandonware written all over them but historically that didn't mean much in the case of the the PC because whilst the hardware still works so does your software.
If steam did drop support then you still have a PC and whilst upgrading may be as hard as on a laptop,if there is money in it then someone else will offer hardware support.
The fact is the steam offering is a AMD zen2 PC and whilst the screen the screen may be lower rez and tech it supports video out via USB3.
Given the current problems with the electronics pipeline I would be more worried about delivery in time for Xmas than the likelihood of steam dropping support being any more of an impact than for all the other walk away proprietary PC builders.
Nothing wrong with abandonware."
Absolutely! I'm still using a NookHD tablet, flashed with Cyanogen. It makes a great Kodi remote, or for looking up stuff on IMDB, or just general browsing. Or games. or, or, or...
I think it cost me under a £100, possibly much less, I've forgotten now, in The Great Nook Fire-sale.
At least depending on how locked down the hardware is. I'm rooting for not at all, but we can wait for the iFixit and other teardowns.
I don't know if this will fly or not as Valve intends it to. The kinect and the PsP both come to mind, clever devices that geeks did cool stuff with, but Steam will need to succeed on IT's plans well enough to keep up making them.
But I'm still playing emulator games on the 1.0 firmware of my PsP 15 years later. As long as the memory stick holds up I'll keep doing it.
But I wouldn't mind adding another useful and interesting oddball to my toy collection.
"The battery life sounds a big hurdle here, "
Really? I wonder how many gamers would spend more than a "several hours" playing games on the go with no option to plug in and re-charge? I suspect that might more of an edge case than normal run-of-the-mill users. Not to mention that the "several hours" is playing high spec games constantly, with 7-8 hours quoted for lighter games or other uses, all on a 7" screen.
Somewhat late with the tip, but a 7.2v nicad from an RC car worked a treat with the GameGear to extend its running time when out and about, and a fast charger could fill it up in about 20 mins. Much kudos to my old man for showing me this sort of stuff!
My biggest caution is the controller part of it, the triggers and sticks.
I've had my fair share of controllers, and a sizeable chunk tend to develop issues with these components. Some after little use and some after mild use (that is to say playing excessive amounts of Rocket League). On a controller it's not too much of a hurdle. I feel alright opening that up to give some required maintenance of whatever sort I have laying around, but with a more expensive and advanced machine I'm not sure I'd feel quite so eager to engage in home-repair.
I could see myself forking over the cash, but I hope to see some information on replacement ease for these wear and tear parts. The machine won't last forever, but from my experience the computer bits won't be outdated before the controller bits will break - and that would suck.
For a Switch the controllers are separate entities - that doesn't seem to be the case with the Deck.
Also a note on the reservation fee - that fee counts towards the purchase price, so it's mostly there to ensure that you're serious about it and discourage fake reservations, as per the Deck FAQ:
"Does the reservation fee count towards my Steam Deck purchase price?
It is an intriguing concept. Suppose one day there would be an Android phone maker innovative enough to start making a phone that can be used as a Chromebook in a dock. Technology is no obstacle anymore to make such a device. Companies could save considerable expenses in IT.
Steam are the biggest to enter this market and do this type of form factor but hardly the first, there have been several of these over the years from different companies, this is just the latest
A full PC running windows... that is a portable as a switch. More expensive now not a kickstarter but a friend of mine bought one and loves it.
Hope https://www.ayaneo.com/ hardware is better than their software skills - I will never know as web page shows zilch for me when visiting (as its an unknown site so enter with most JS disabled by default).
Always code your site based on non JS browsers (lots of screen readers struggle with JS heavy sites too, its not just us malware averse cautious people). It's not difficult - by all means use JS to "improve" (opinions vary on whether its a real improvement) your site, but render content & allow navigation if JS is disabled
> use JS to "improve" [...] your site
I guess it's actually rather "to impress the people paying for it, so they think they got their money's worth"...
I remember the time where mouseover GIF changes were the absolute height of web technology and the sign of a cutting edge website design, and frankly, I don't feel like modern websites are any better than back then. They just weigh several hundred MB more.
Sorry, can't decide if this is meant to be ironic or not.
If you mean this ironically, I fully agree, it's a sad statement that the biggest technological advancement in web site design has been to add liberal GBs of tracking scripts...
If you really mean it, see above paragraph.
The Portals - guaranteed. They've had SteamOS/Linux versions forever and its way within this device's power.
KSP - I really couldn't see any reason why not.
Deffo worth putting down the reservation fee, I think, especially as if you don't buy the console when it's released, you get the fee back into your Steam wallet anyway.
The Sega GameGear came out around the same time as the Nintendo Gameboy. The GameGear was a superb console, stunning crisp colour graphics, comfortable unit to use. What killed the GameGear was the awful battery life, 90mins on 6 AA batteries on the one I owned. Nintendo Gameboy could run for hours on a set of AA batteries as it prized battery life and surrendered the graphics and CPU speed to give a playable experience.
If they don't get the Steam Deck up to around 4-5 hours play minimum it will be dead within 18 months as 2 hours is awful battery life.
"What killed the GameGear was the awful battery life, 90mins on 6 AA batteries on the one I owned. Nintendo Gameboy could run for hours on a set of AA batteries as it prized battery life and surrendered the graphics and CPU speed to give a playable experience."
AND the backlight. This also killed the Atari Lynx, which was similarly specced. A color portable was simply was too far ahead of its time, as shown by the state of the art in portable televisions (did you know Sega made a TV adapter for the Game Gear?). Color LCD tech and backlights then simply drew too much power. Nintendo finally added backlighting with the Game Boy Advance, as only by that point did the battery and display and lighting tech make sense.
... FWIW, on my switch, I get about 2.5 - 3 hours of usable gameplay out of the on-board battery, irregardless of what game I'm playing (animal crossing, Hades, The Outer Worlds, Diablo III, etc.)
there's a reason why I have a second power brick and recently bought a co-branded battery bank designed for it.
I've just taken a punt on a 256GB. Should help bridge the gap between having a Mac and PS4 (eventually I'll get a PS5 I'm sure...) and all those games like Starfield that I'd like to play. I don't really want a full-on gaming rig and I'd even vaguely looked at mini PC type things. But this looks like it might be useful for such things either handheld or docked. Also might mean I can be super lazy and use it to remote into work when on the sofa...
"Hey Microsoft how would you like a couple of million new customers who will each pay you £8 a month plus offer themselvs up for other revenue earning opportunities". "Emn no thanks, we will break their ability to use our services instead". Hmmm doesn't look right to me somehow.
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