How about killing it with fire and nuking it from orbit just to be sure? Repeatedly. With extreme prejudice. Until it glows in the day.
Amid the unveiling of Windows 11 and the backlash over the frankly pisspoor way Microsoft handled the operating system's hardware requirements, the software behemoth quietly emitted a native ARM64 build of its Office cash cow. It announced a little redesign of Office, too, or as Redmond put it, a "visual refresh." The state …
At YAAC, re: pastel colours & rounded corners.
So do the controls on the orbital nuke. I started to enter the GPS coords into the targeting system when Clippy popped up to simper "It looks like you're trying to-" at which point I wanted to install a bobbing bird sculpture over the launch button to continuously bombard those bastards back into primordial ooze.
I don't GAFF about rounded corners & pretty colours, I _do_ care about a stable system that doesn't change the layout of the controls every time some MS douchebag gets a bug up their arse. The ribbon is an abomination unto Nuggin & deserves everyone responsible for it to have their faces bitten off by ravenous Bugbladder beasts from Traal.
But but but ... they've got so many bugs where else are they going to put them?
I'm with you on this one. Stop bloody well moving the controls. QWERTY might be a f******g stupid layout for a keyboard but every touch typist's fingers know where the button are. The brake peddle on a car doesn't need relocating to the passengers side and the steering wheel doesn't need to relocate to which ever occupant last commented on the directions to the destination.
Leave the bloody controls where they were.
Improvements in handling big docs would be good, I'm just not sure I believe them because they've promised this loads of times before. Words handling of master documents so you can break things up into separate files for, say chapters, is pathetic and what it does to the style gallery just beggars belief. Maybe someone in MS' marketing dept. thinks a bigger document is a two page letter rather than a tweet. If you decide to avoid master docs and separate files then it just does stupid things as the document grows. The one I'm working on at the moment is over 1600 pages (is that large? I bet people will come back with much bigger ones) so every few minutes it does an autosave, which is a good thing, but it freezes for quite a number of seconds while this happens. It's a fast i7 powered system with 24GB of RAM and an NVMe SSD. What's more, half the time if you do anything while it is autosaving it pops up the saveas screen and random parts of what you've typed are lost. WHY?
If they want to do something constructive with office try turning it into a suite rather than a box set of random unrelated programs. Why oh Why is the text editor and picture editor in Word and PowerPoint different? Why can't I have a style gallery in PPT? Bloody well integrate these damn things.
OK, I know why they are different - History - but that is the sort of thing they should damn well be focusing on and not changing the colour scheme of their bloody menus.
Oh Jesus. I tried to show my mother how to integrate the individual Word documents (poems) she had been working on into a single Word document (en route to a pdf for submission to a publisher), a task I had done a dozen times or more around 15-20 years ago when I was a publication assistant to a group of professors.
"This'll be a snip", I thought, "After all, it's so long since this was an obscure but easily done job... link a series of live documents into a Master document that can create a chapter list, index and bibliography but retain live updating from individual documents".
No Fucking Way on EARTH is this possible nowadays. I spent about 18 hours glued to the keyboard, resorting to looking it up in on numerous "help" websites. Every time I thought I'd found the secret sauce to make this work, it turns out it's NOT applicable to the latest version (a Christmas Present I wish I'd never bought my mother). I ended up just glueing it together by copying and pasting. All the elegance of Word 6's Master document handling had vanished.
Fuck you, Microsoft.
I really feel for you on this.
As far as I can tell every version of Word since the late 90s has done this is a totally different and inconsistent way.
Building a table of contents for multiple files works a totally different way too (don't try mixing these it breaks everything). For the ToC you use reference documents (I think that's the name) and you can edit them - Yay! but not for master documents. It sticks the full pathname for the files into the master document and then it does something weird with OneDrive so you can't copy the damn things.
It is often easier to just make a new master document and add the component parts again.
Oh did I mention the style gallery? now look at it.
I saw the Style Gallery. My mother had unfortunately used a different style in each document and when they were viewed next to each other it didn't look good, so I tried to show her how to apply a style that could be adjusted and applied automatically to multiple documents and parts of a document.
The pain was excruciating. Nothing worked as it used to - The option to remove all styles appears to have gone - that was the ultimate reset button... now every time you try to create a style it mashes everything up together.
"half the time if you do anything while it is autosaving it pops up the saveas screen and random parts of what you've typed are lost. WHY?"
I'm pretty sure the saveas is a brain-dead Office version of read consistency. Autosave starts, edits are made while in progress, PANIC! "If you don't save your latest changes the world will end!". It's obvious they don't even understand the difference between save and autosave. A sane approach would be to just let it go, finish the autosave, and wait for the next autosave cycle to capture the latest edits.
As for random parts lost, most likely it's because you were typing into the not-yet-visible, but somehow in-focus saveas dialog. I get similar all the time when I start some application -- while I'm waiting an eternity for it to display, I try to get something else done, but the not-yet-visible application keeps stealing focus.
At Hopkinse. I wholeheartedly approve of your suggestion for proper punishment. I will award bonus points & give an extra cookie if you can come up with a suitable means of injecting said tortuous tormentations directly into their brains so the rest of us aren't in danger of hearing it ourselves.
And that's the "fun" with Teams too.
Had this the other day on an "Advanced VBA in Excel" course (I know, I know) given by an external company via Teams.
On a dual screen laptop/monitor set-up, with Teams mininised whilst I worked on the example code (Excel in one window, VBA screen in the other) when a fellow student unmuted his mike or shared his screen to ask a question of the tutor.
And what happens? Teams suddenly pops up full screen and takes the focus. So me rather than typing away in my code window am now suddenly looking at and typing into the Teams window. It was happening at least once every 5 minutes during the course, meaning I couldn't get anything at all done or concentrate on getting the code correct.
And it looks like this unwanted focus stealing cannot be turned off.
Previously we've done these courses via either Skype or Webex and neither of them did this. But no, it has now been decreed that we must use Teams for such things and it's an utter abomination (unto anyone up to and including Nuggan).
It's worse than that – when they release things like so-called "modern comments", they utterly f#ck with my workflow as an editor. All the other people who actually use Word for editing absolutely hate this change, and the only way to avoid it is to revert to a previous version of Word and disable updates. I think I'm now on my "last" version of Word – I shall probably not change for the next decade if it means having the f#ck-up that is the new comment system.
It just works. used it on XP, 7 and now 10. even 10 on a tablet. given all the M$ BS about 'tablet centric ui design" or whatever marketing said, 2k3 still just works.
why the hell should i learn where M$ has put the bloody buttons this week. Office, and Windows are both tools. no one has redesigned the hammer in the last 20yrs, functionality can be added without fucking up the UI every time.
Someone should try and point that out to marketing.
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Oh the 'irony' (pun intended). Going forward, if Microsoft (and Apple for that matter) are going to consign billions of PCs/macs to landfill using artifically constrained superficial updates that involve pastel shades and TPM 2.0 chips, what better way for Jony Ive types to now spend their design time, than designing a newly milled steel hammer with a $260 price tag? /s
I wish I could still be using 2003,, But big company IT went balls deep for SaaS O365. I swear loudly and daily at it. Good thing not been in the office for over a year. And that fracking ribbon, I might have gotten the hang of the bits I needed by now if they would just stop bleeping changing it. /rant
Menus to the left or right.
Why on earth do MS (and it’s not only them) insist on putting menus and ribbons across the top or bottom, given that we all have wide screen monitors now?
The fact that the task bar works better up the side, as you can see all the names even when it gets full, and the clock nicely shows the day and date. For a bonus you get an extra few pixels height to do your actual work in.
Excel is a horror for that. All the shortcuts are different from everything else, and in the last version they took away the ability to customise them. Almost immediately someone opened a uservoice to get them back, and after a whole year and loads of votes they just replied "hahaha nope".
And they wonder why people use LibreOffice...
I just wish they would re-introduce theme customisation so that users could create their own Then they could have their contrastless, monotone flatland for the powerpoint spivs, and free the rest of the users who need to actually use a computer to create their own with windows that have visible controls and edges >1 pixel wide. they can do what they like with the default UI - the real horror is there's no exit door.
That has to be the least efficient Search module that has ever been invented.
I cannot help but imagine that Windows Search has been expressely tweaked by Borkzilla engineers to ensure that, despite every improvement in hardware performance, Windows Search remains just as sluggish as it was in Windows 3.1.
I disable that monstrosity, and use Everything Search instead. Everything Search is free, it installs in less than half a minute and, once it is done looking through your hard drives, it takes less than 10 milliseconds to find any file name you might be looking for.
You know, like a proper search function should do in the 3rd Millennium, with computers that are a million times more performant than they were when the 286 came out.
I wanted to access my fuel records that I update every few years or so when I clean out the glovebox. I couldn't remember where I'd put it, but I could remember the file name. Typed that into the search tool and after 10 minutes of a spinning wheel I got bored and decided to try and find it myself. It took me 5 minutes to do that, and when I'd finished updating the document 2 hours later the search tool was STILL spinning away trying to find it.
Windows Search is useless. If I know any part of the filename I use `dir /s filenamepattern`. It's reasonably fast and works 100% of the time. When MS does away with cmd.exe, it will be time for me to retire. Then I can use GNU-Linux and never have to look at Windows again.
I wonder if Microsoft employees actually realise that they’re in the same business as car makers? i.e. Microsoft is primarily a marketing company.
Every 18 months or so, bring out a “refreshed” model. Some of the black bits are now chrome. Things that had square edges now have rounded edges. Move stuff around for no apparent reason other than making the previous version look old and dated, but annoy the user, who now has to find it again. Now some people feel the need to race out and buy the new model for no apparent reason, other than that it is fashionable and the latest.
Guess that’s why I use LibreOffice (no toolbars… yay) and drive a 23 year old car.
"the default neutral color palette, customizable ribbon, and soft corners"
That'll be pale grey foreground with a mid grey background for the active window. And the background windows are 1/255 of a grey different. With a 1 pixel border so that you can't spot the edges and can't click on them unless you have a gaming mouse (and the motor skills of a gaming champ). And all because screen resolution and real estate are soooo valuable now that we have 4k monitors.
It's to make it gender neutral. Also borders marks differences among windows while all of them are part of a big continuous screen community, there should be no borders between them.
I also believe Azure must be renamed because it has too much a male shade. MS should rename it "Rainbow" or make it a neutral grey and call it as such.
That what happens when you apply external ideas to a domain where they do not apply at all.
and everywhere, intimations of desktop publishing formatting jammed in your face, even in a spreadsheet. If I must use an M$ Office, 97 or 2003 would do fine. However there are alternatives which do work nearly like the Good Old Days (tm) Mines the sabre tooth tiger skin one
After a couple of Crayola versions of Office, I found Office 2016 to be refreshingly clean and nearly understandable. Since then things have gone downhill with the desire to flatten everything. Office 2019, especially Outlook, has become essentially unusable unless you change the theme. Fortunately, I don't have to use it that much.
"This new version of Office," said Microsoft engineering manager Mike Smith, "is designed specifically for the next version of Windows on Arm. It has been recompiled for the Arm architecture to run fast, bring greater memory availability, offer better support for large documents, and maintain compatibility."
... because it is always such a struggle to find software that will keep up with my typing skills
Whilst they're tinkering with the UI, can they please find somewhere other than the window title bar to shove even more active UI elements? I've got an Excel 365 window maximised on my 1920-wide desktop, and at least half of the titlebar is taken up with stuff which, if clicked on, will do something *other* than what I expect to happen when clicking on a window titlebar based on all the decades-worth of prior experience of using the Windows UI since the days of 3.1. Bad enough that W10 generally makes it harder to even see where the edge of a window is sometimes, but to then, once you've found the title bar, turn it into a minefield of clickable elements, means the O365 team have gone beyond merely adopting the generic W10 approach of UI minimalism at the expense of useability and have chosen to enter a whole new realm of sticking shit in places users don't expect shit to be stuck, just to mess with their expectations and experiences and make it even harder to use the product in ways they want to use it.
If I then dare to reduce the window width to something more applicable to the amount of data actually in the sheet itself, so that i can, you know, make use of the other side of the screen to display something else at the same time (woo, multitasking, get you Mr flash git power user, goes the entire Windows/Office design team in harmonious unison), whilst some of those titlebar-cluttering elements shrink down a bit, they don't do so quite as rapidly as the reduction in width of the title bar itself, leaving me with now barely a handful of pixels on which I can click without fear of triggering some other UI action.
And just as a bonus, I've now noticed that clicking in the seemingly completely empty bit of the titlebar to the left of the Autosave toggle, behaves the same as clicking on the program icon that's usually displayed in that position on stuff compiled for older, more sensible, versions of Windows. So, you know, nice to still have that functionality included, but why not make it a bit more obvious. Like, perhaps, I dunno, just a random thought that crossed my mind, no idea what gave me this idea, sticking a scaled-down rendition of the product logo in the corner?
Godallfuckingmighty, I really, TRULY, despise modern UI design and every last person on the planet responsible for forcing it on the rest of us. First class tickets for the B Ark for the lot of them...
Remember MSN messenger?
Remember Lync for Business?
Remember Skype for Business?
....and then Teams?
A decade of more of exponentially increasing shitness, memory bloat and increasing performance issues. Never mind utterly horrible UI's.
They never fail to make their products dramatically worse.
Microsoft has basically tweaked Office to bring it in line with the Windows 11 user interface and its Fluent Design principles
It's the Operating System's job to render applications. However, Microsoft insists every damn time that they "refresh the look" of Microsoft Office to whatever the current fad in their latest Operating System is, to re-implement all of the window and control rendering within the application rather than let the Operating System do it. It's an ongoing example of rampant stupidity and duplication and is one of the reasons that Microsoft Office is so bloated, slow and unstable and hard to port to any other platform.
I remember when MS Office joyfully announced that they would no longer be slaves to the Windows UI and would roll their own instead. You can see a certain sense. As you drop down the scale from the tech-savvy through the fakers to the everyday drones, you realize that allowing change to occur is a bad idea. Even today some poor striver will accidentally change a setting an start thinking their PC is infected and the world is about to end. So fixing the style of the UI, even if it allowed only bland, blander, and blandest choices, made sense. Of course that didn't stop the fungus of designeritis from infecting other aspects, which is how we got the ever-changing, ever-confusing ribbon.
What really rankled was that the same gang of idiots got to work on Visual Studio. Now that was a crime.
...of using Office through Teams and Sharepoint.
I've also had the opportunity of "simultaneously" editing a document with multiple other users.
All I can say about the esperience is:
1. It was the Client's requirement that we do things this way
2. It was a total clusterf....
3. Microsoft has a good amount of work to do before they need to worry about "visual refreshing" Office.
#1 bitch? Adding a line break in Teams, GDrive, or Excel all seem to require different combinations of [Shift,Ctrl, Alt], and ENTER.
I love the way how, in the face of all common sense and even company policy, people will save a new version of a collaborative document as a new file with some "version" info in the name.
I also love how comments about why changes were made, or were even necessary, tend to mean something only to the commenter and to anyone telepathically linked up. Or they amount to "Kevin wanted this change"
I've said this before. MS Word ran on a bog standard Mac in 1990. It did everything you might need to write a coherent, well-structured document (not that people actually want to write such things, ever). You can still do the things that it did in 1990, right down to having to deal with the same annoying bugs (ever try yunching a whole paragraph up past other paragraphs, and then hitting a table?), though they have managed to introduce a few new ones, and obfuscate what used to be simple.
Of course, a bog standard Mac didn't have 32 Gigs of RAM in 1990. Funny how you now need that to do now what you did then.
For anyone without a TPM. Most modern Intel and AMD processors have a built in TPM. I've just found and switched on the TPM built in to my processor. It's called Intel PTT, you may need to find where the setting is tucked away in your BIOS. If you enable that and you've got UEFI boot, then you're good to go with Windows 11. Bit of research tonight meant that I don't have to buy one any more. Scalpers be damned!
Hmm, that emulation layer on ARM, if they were to make it available for other program developers to use, might it be time to think that Micros~1 might be about to do their own Project Marklar, to keep up with Apple and the way that CPU efficiency seems to be going, and for Intel (and AMD) to start getting very nervous indeed?