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The US Federal Communications Commission is pressing forward with a proposal that would ban telecommunications providers [PDF] from using equipment made by manufacturers deemed to present a risk to national security. The agency has opened a request for comments on rules that would revoke the certification of any equipment …

  1. Foxglove


    It's Ok when we do it, it's not Ok when you do it.

    1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge

      Re: TL:DR

      Correct. Looking out for my best interest is not the same as looking out for your best interest.

  2. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
    Paris Hilton


    I have been repeatedly assured by Biden-bashers that he is in China's pocket. Shirley you're not telling me it's all been far-right whackadoodle propaganda? Or is this the work of that nefarious Deep State I've heard so much about, undermining America's supremacy by protecting it from potentially insecure foreign-made network equipment?

  3. martinusher Silver badge

    Its our growth industry

    Since we're effectively out of the communication's infrastructure business we need to find work for people so one obvious line for development is the sanctions and prohibitions industry. Its also a better match for our available talent pool.

    Cynics will notice that the bureaucrats we'll employ will be using largely Chinese made office equipment to generate, promulgate and enforce their rules. (OK, some of it will be 'merkan but what isn't obviously Made in China will have substantial amounts of Chinese components in them.)

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The FCC must be kidding.......unintended consequences and all that.....

    Quote: "...ban telecommunications providers from using equipment made by manufacturers deemed to present a risk to national security...." we get Cisco Systems banned from the internet!!!! Maybe Jupiter as well!!!!! Great!!!!

    But the thing is........exactly which nation's security are we talking about? How about Belgium? Is Cisco a threat to Belgium?


    Quote: "...the call for digital retaliation to be launched without warning..."


    So when the UK hacked Belgacomm then it would be fine for Belgium to attack Cheltenham???

    Unintended consequences and all that......ban Cisco......retaliation without warning.....every nation on earth will be looking to hit NSA sites!!!

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: The FCC must be kidding.......unintended consequences and all that.....

      Oh the FCC is definitely not kidding, it's just that all the rhetoric against Huawei and China that has been published in the last four years follows a template in which your can replace every instance of Huawei with Cisco, and every instance of China with the US Government, and the words retain all of their potency.

      The official line is that Huawei is subject to Beijing. There is no proof, but there is fear of. And who better to fear that than a country that has National Security Letters which force any company on US soil to do exactly what the NSA tells them to, and keep it secret ?

      National Security Letters are a known fact, Huawei's ties to Beijing are speculation.

      On the balance of security, you tell me which is worst.

      1. BOFH in Training

        Re: The FCC must be kidding.......unintended consequences and all that.....

        Both US and China are just as bad.

        National Security Letters may be more known to you and the rest of the world.

        But for China, there is National Intelligence Law, enacted on June 27 2017.

        There are a couple of others laws in place there as well such as Data Security Law of 2020, and Cryptology Law of 2020 which makes some interesting reading as well.

        For example, the part of what NIL of 2017 requires :

        The Intelligence Law, by contrast, repeatedly obliges individuals, organizations, and institutions to assist Public Security and State Security officials in carrying out a wide array of “intelligence” work. Article Seven stipulates that “any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with state intelligence work according to law.” Article 14, in turn, grants intelligence agencies authority to insist on this support: “state intelligence work organs, when legally carrying forth intelligence work, may demand that concerned organs, organizations, or citizens provide needed support, assistance, and cooperation.” Organizations and citizens must also protect the secrecy of “any state intelligence work secrets of which they are aware.” These clauses appear to limit the obligations on individuals to Chinese citizens, but they do not stipulate that only Chinese “organizations” are subject to these requirements.

        The other articles in that law are just as interesting.

        Last I checked, Huawei is a company based in China and presumably have to follow these laws, just like companies in US are legally obligated to follow the Natioanl Security Letters.

        In the end, figure out who is the least likely to be interested in you or your info, and use equipment from that country.

  5. Version 1.0 Silver badge

    Quick fix

    Maybe Huawei and ZTE should just start making Nest devices and phones that work on Amazon's mesh network? Oh wait, that might cause China to ban Huawei and ZTE from selling devices in Asia.

  6. Tempest

    It's Not The Chinese I worry About, . . .

    it's the amoral slime who are employed, or contracted, by the NSA, GCHQ and their buddies in Australia, Canada, New Zealand.

    At least, these days, they are having to work overtime with the plethora of technologies employed these days.

    And if the States is so clever, how come their computer systems are always demonstrating their poor security?

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