back to article Six years in the making, Vivaldi Mail arrives alongside version 4.0 of the company's browser

Vivaldi has released version 4.0 of its eponymous browser, adding translation capabilities and dragging the long-awaited mail and calendar functionality out of tech preview. The email and calendar has been a long time coming — first announced in 2015 before finally clawing its way into technical preview in 2020. We took the …

  1. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

    Okay, I admit, I'm still using an old installation of Opera for email/rss. Something new would be welcome.

    1. richardcox13

      The Vivaldi team was born out of the ashes of the Opera team...

      1. Andy The Hat Silver badge

        ... and most of the current browsers are still picking through the ashes of Opera 12 for ideas to plug into their offerings as "new and original" features. IMHO none implement tab handling and configurability as well as O12 did, though I should look at this Vivaldi release to see where it's got to ...

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Meh

    It would be wonderful to have a privacy-respecting freeware offline desktop IMAP and Caldav client that isn't Thunderbird.

    Sadly I still can't try it because vivaldi.com has just gone down with 503s and database connection errors galore.

    1. LDS Silver badge
      Facepalm

      "It would be wonderful to have a privacy-respecting freeware offline desktop"

      And then connect it to GMail....

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "It would be wonderful to have a privacy-respecting freeware offline desktop"

        Why would you think I'd be doing that? I have several accounts and exactly none of them are with Google.

    2. Lon24 Silver badge

      Yep - it would be nice to move on from Thunderbird and Roundcube. But, at first sight, this is still missing a lot which makes it unusable for me. Here's my list (please correct if you have found a solution)

      1) Doesn't allow multiple identities on one account

      2) Doesn't show folders

      3) By default only shows unread messages

      4) Won't allow me to connect to my ISP smtp mailsever Zen (insists on username/password)

      But it's a start. Maybe Vivaldi 5 will be the enswer.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        2) You're right. It's not downloading or showing IMAP folders (other than the defaults). I created an IMAP folder in Thunderbird, in an account that I also added to Vivaldi, and Vivaldi doesn't see or show the folder.

        Damn. I had high hopes. Guess I'm sticking with Thunderbird for now.

    3. Zolko Silver badge

      Kmail

      privacy-respecting freeware offline desktop IMAP and Caldav client

      Kmail from KDE does that. It's m'y primary reason to use KDE/Plasma. Admittedly, it's more than freeware, it's fully free/open-source.

      Written in Vivaldi/Android

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Kmail

        Sadly not available on macOS.

  3. ShadowSystems Silver badge

    Please forgive my ignorance...

    But what does "með þýðingarmöguleika" say in English? My screen reader can't make heads nor tails of it & a quick DDG search just returned links back to this story.

    It's probably something that makes sense visually, but therein lies my problem.

    *Sets out a pint to thank the responders with the answer*

    1. ThatOne Silver badge

      Re: Please forgive my ignorance...

      > It's probably something that makes sense visually, but therein lies my problem.

      Don't worry, there is no visual gag (at least not an obvious one). It seems to just be a phrase in Icelandic, but since I don't understand this language I can't tell you more.

    2. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Re: Please forgive my ignorance...

      According to Google it's Icelandig and means "with translation options"

      Cheers :)

  4. Steve Graham

    I'm a Vivaldi and Thunderbird user. Thunderbird is long in the tooth, but it meets my needs. I can't see any advantage to moving to a mail client in the browser.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      The 'long in the tooth' issue is my main problem with TB.

      Also, let's observe that there is as yet NO alternative to Outlook which integrates contacts, email and calendaring - this could be the niche Vivaldi is targeting.

      1. Billy Whiz

        >let's observe that there is as yet NO alternative to Outlook

        Err....... Evolution?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          The macOS version of Evolution is no longer developed.

      2. myhandler

        Ther's a calandar plug-in/add-on for Thunderbird and it understands Outlook event dates. Works for me

      3. Terry 6 Silver badge

        I moved from using Outlook to using Thunderbird once the Lightning calendar became a fully integrated component. Using TB with the add-on TBSync Without TBSync I would still be using Outlook on my PCs. I have my calendar synchronised, via my Microsoft email account, between my (Android) phone using the Outlook.com app, my laptop, my desktop and even my cheap Lenovo convertible. At a pinch I can even get it online too.

        For me this is the deal breaker. I need to be able to enter an appointment while I'm out and about, using my phone, pick it up later while I'm using my laptop, look at it if I'm messing about on the tablet then refer to it when I'm sat in front of the screen using the full sized PC. I used to use Outlook for this, until TB with Lightning came along, and the TBSync add in made it synchronise across my devices. It puzzles me that this isn't a fully integrated piece of functionality in TB but someone had to create an add-in, which is itself dependent an another add-in (Providor for Exchange Active-sync). All a bit Heath Robinson. But that is the issue with FOSS software, it relies on someone with the specific set of skills also being interested in writing the programme and adding the functionality

        I know that ProtonMail are bringing out a calendar function. I'll jump to that if it means I can escape Microsoft's clutches- and dump the Outlook.com calendar and TB's clumsy collection of add-ons..

        But this Vivaldi mail might do the job for me, too. If it means I can synchronise my calendar across all my devices.

      4. deep_enigma

        "The 'long in the tooth' issue is my main problem with TB."

        Erm.. so... no *actual* problem then?

        "Old", in and of itself, should never be a problem.

    2. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      I haven't used Thunderbird for a while but was an avid user of Opera Mail which just got a lot of things right: it uses views instead of folders and automatically recognises mailing lists for example.

      I got fed up of waiting for Vivaldi Mail and have switched to MailMate for MacOS which also gets a lot of things right, though less by default. But, my is it a joy to have a mail client that is actively being worked on! And Benny Nielsen deserves enormous credit for this. Every time I have to launch Apple Mail or – shudder – Outlook, I ask myself does no one really care about e-mail?

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  5. Alistair
    Windows

    Vivaldi/Thunderbird

    Okay, had no one ever tried evolution?

    1. jtaylor Bronze badge

      Re: Vivaldi/Thunderbird

      Is Evolution available for Windows? I didn't find that last I looked.

      Thunderbird works on any desktop OS I've used in recent years: Linux, Windows, MacOS. Cross-platform is worth a lot to me, because I eschew webmail.

    2. katrinab Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: Vivaldi/Thunderbird

      Evolution looks like it might be a good replacement for Outlook 98.

    3. cd

      Re: Vivaldi/Thunderbird

      Or Seamonkey, apparently, which had those features long ago. Which also works with the Firefox plugins like NoScript, uBlock Origin, etc. and there's even a Firefox plugin converter in case something doesn't.

  6. El blissett

    Sticking with eM client until O13/V4 has exchange support, but watching closely. Vivaldi has rapidly advanced to the point where I don't need to run multiple browsers / software / profiles to get what I need - so just like Opera used to be.

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