Sleeping with the stegosaurus
Disrespectful way to dispose of a body... stegosaurus was a herbivore.
Mine's the one with a copy of The Godfather in the pocket...
A man has been found dead inside a large model dinosaur in the Spanish municipality of Santa Coloma de Gramenet, on the northern outskirts of Barcelona. Local media said the man was reported missing by his family, and that a father and son who often visit the model dinosaur noticed something amiss and called local authorities …
Thanks for your strawman (or should that be papier mache man) argument. It's not about "deserving" to die, it's about understanding how he might have died.
If you want to exercise your mock outrage, there are other comments below where it might work a little better.
> what else was the suggestion of drunkenness supposed to convey?
Motive. Alcohol can effect your judgment leading to misadventure. This does not in any way suggest that they deserve to die, but it might explain why an and otherwise reasonable person does something that in hindsight seems foolish.
I am lucky enough to have survived some youthful misadventures and (mostly) wiser for it.
"ergo you are the one with the problem."
It vaguely reminds me of the saudis objecting to a .baby TLD because, according to their warped minds, it would attract or even encourage paedos.
I don't think normal people's minds would have gone down that road in a million years. Or possibly a million light years, even.
Puts me in mind of this pretty horrible case of death by cleaning.
A friend built a startup on this with Asterix.
You phoned into a central number before going onsite, it logged your phone# and if you didn't call back to clear the site within a certain time it would alert a pre-programmed contact.
It was just after that estate agent got murdered by someone she was showing a house to in the 90s
There was another very unfortunate accident where a teenager became trapped head first between car seats with his arms pinned.
He was able to dial 911 using his cellphones voice recognition but that wasn't enough to save his life from incompetent police:
I understand the importance that mobile phones have today, but if you lose it in a ginormous model dinosaur and you're all alone, maybe you should start by going to the Municipal Hall and ask for help ?
Or even flag down a police car. Anything but going in headfirst without anyone to help you get back out.
Not to mention that he could have damaged the model.
That was an unreasonable act any way you look at it. I'm sorry that he died, but he really should have given the matter a bit more thought.
All I can think of is that he fell into the model and then either injured himself such that he was unable to call for help by shouting or passed out from the alcohol and as sadly happens, then vomited and because of where he was, died.
Surely there would have been staff who noticed a hole in their dinosaur or CCTV that spotted someone climbing on the model.
The story is amusing in the same way that these plonkers who fall off buildings, waterfalls & mountains trying to take the ultimate selfie are.
It is the "how can anyone be that stupid".
>This. Confined spaces are dangerous. Head down in a confined space without immediate help is deadly.
But all this safety paranoia in schools, kids today rarely get a chance to play with dinosaurs and so don't learn the dangers.
Perhaps some scary 1970s public information film - like the one about going swimming with death.
Meow meow meeeeoowww meow mmmeeeoowww meow meow.
Charlie says that white haired DJ weirdo is making lewd suggestions and he wants to speak to his agent before he continues with this road safety advert.
Waffle waffle blurb blurb blah blah blah
The producer says to shut the fuck up and get on with it. It is the 70's and that kind of thing is the norm if you want a career in TV.
Society and the judicial system appear to be uninterested and say nothing
Meow meow meow meeeooowww
Charlie says anyone who was in a position of authority in 70's Britain should be locked up.
Meoow meoow meow
And he adds, Keep safe children. Stay in mummy's tummy until at least the 90's
"Ask any cave explorer."
The air could be fairly toxic in there as well.
Cavers always leave a call-out time with a responsible person, and Cave Rescue Controllers (being reasonable people) will go and check for the persons car etc. first, before launching a full scale call-out in case of telephone issues. (I used to be a Cave Rescue Volunteer.)
The only time I was the subject of a call-out, we were making slow progress on a notorious through-trip (between two cave entrances) as one of the team was having problems with a knee "popping-out". Our local call-out watched the Cave Rescue blue light vehicles go past the Pub window before he thought to look at the time! Luckily, my wife was the responsible person, and she had called from over 150 miles away!
Boffin icon, because the stereotypical UK caver has at least a degree education (University Clubs being the greatest recruiters.)
I used to explore with a guy of very small physique and if he was setting off somewhere too small for me to get down, we used to tie a rope around one of his ankles, so that I could help pull him back. And on another occasion, another small person started making very strange noises as they edged down a tube (feet first) in front of me. It took a while to work out that he was hanging from his helmet's chin-strap (the helmet being the widest part of him) with his feet in mid-air over a 100 foot drop.
maybe you should start by going to the Municipal Hall and ask for help ?
well , no
Each situation is different - it depends on the size and species of the model dinosaur , which vary wildy.
Same applies for any other location you drop your phone.
If I dropped it into a municipal flowerbed while photographing the flowers , id probly attempt to recover it myself before' going to the Municipal Hall and ask for help'
If however I accidentally dropped it into the Kola Superdeep Borehole (40,000ft) I'd probably not attempt to recover it myself.
The article gives a possible answer:
"... that a father and son who often visit the model dinosaur noticed something amiss" - so some external signs of a problem, foot sticking out of the mouth perhaps?
Alternatively the article says "Local media said the man was reported missing by his family" so family used a "find my phone" app perhaps?
The speculation that "...the man somehow managed to lose his phone inside the model beast..." is ambiguous. Some other posters here have taken it to mean he dropped the phone into the dino and went in after it. That is one possibility. An alternative is that once inside and stuck (maybe head down in a confined space with surfaces of slippery plastic) he attempted to get the phone out to call for help but dropped it and the eventual rescuers found it slipped further out of reach. Or being head-down, the phone just slipped out of a pocket.
No cause of death specified but in that situation CO2 build up? (See the stories of cavers Neil Moss 1958 in Derbyshire and John Jones 2009 in Utah).
As for "...possibly drunk..." that too is pure speculation until the autopsy reports the blood-alcohol level.
"...perhaps after deciding to spend the night within its skin..." speculation again and questionable as he was a family man. Speaking as such, in the event of a disagreement with my wife and deciding to spend the night elsewhere, spending it inside a model dinosaur would not feature prominently on my list of possible venues. (To my dear wife, should you read this: I don't actually maintain such a list but, should the need ever arise I can assure you I could come up with a better alternative, not necessarily with a lady-friend. I'm not aware of a suitable dinosaur in our locality and would be reluctant to go on a long journey to locate one.)
"“We found the body of a man inside the leg of this dinosaur statue. It’s an accidental death; there was no violence. This person got inside the statue’s leg and got trapped. It looks as though he was trying to retrieve a mobile phone, which he’d dropped. It looks like he entered the statue head first and couldn’t get out."https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/24/missing-man-found-dead-inside-spanish-dinosaur-statue
Not a good way to die and given the image it must have been a very tight fit for him entering the leg.
I think he laid himself open to a bit of mockery by managing to find a unique and absurd way of dying. Other than the fact that it was probably deeply unpleasant, going out on a blaze of publicity has its merits, possibly more so than the mundane lingering exits most of us will endure. So let's be a little sad but hail this hero's ingenuity.
The Aberdeen Press and Journal, in its headline on May 23, christened the mysterious creature the “Loch Ness ‘Monster’” — which would become its enduring name. And the newspaper’s report, along with others in the Scottish press, noted something else. Sandy Gray had not only seen the Loch Ness Monster: He was going to attempt to catch it.
Seen enough to eye you
But I've seen to much to try you
It's always weirdness while you
Dig it much too much to fry you
The weirdness flows between us
Anyone can tell to see us
Freak scene just can't believe us
Why can't it just be cool and free us?
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