I’ll start digging the grave
Bring a shovel and form an orderly queue!
As of June 15, 2022, Microsoft will retire its Internet Explorer 11 desktop application for certain versions of Windows 10. A Windows Experience post delivered the news as follows: Today, we are at the next stage of that journey: we are announcing that the future of Internet Explorer on Windows 10 is in Microsoft Edge. The …
That's not unknown and is all down to moron developers trying to pretend that a web browser was a modal system application and when they found that it wasn't behaving as one they insisted on going down the Internet Explorer only ActiveX route to try and bodge it further into being one. Still didn't do that, but they successfully and very idiotically tied what should have been just a web application/page to a specific web browser.
Lets nuke it from space, its the only way to make sure
IE has probably caused me more work over the years to maintain browser compatibility. The only reason it will be missed is that there are still some sites that only seem to work properly in IE, so it was an unwelcome, but important tool. It was basically the dog pooh bag of the world. You didn't want to have it, using it was messy, but it was a bit better than the alternative
You can say the same about Chrome now.
Some sites only work properly with it as the idiot designers don't test anything else, and it comes with Google's prying eyes screwing privacy as well. Not to mention Google using its near-monopoly ability to push through changes that no one really needs beyond Google's own agenda (idiot-brain things like
activeX USB and native file system access, for example).
Meet the new
bossbrowser, same as the old bossbrowser...
That's great. Now, how about the many application vendors stuck in IE update their stuff to work in anything that actually is supported?
I'm particularly thinking of SAP, that mandatory corporate app that doesn't play nice (at least not in the implementation I'm subjected to) with anything but IE.
The PHB's in charge of buying corporate apps never seem to check what browser(s) they're happy with, and whether that actually conforms to any of the other corporate apps.
I currently run Edge, IE, Chrome and Firefox on my work machine in order to make various individual corporate apps work properly.
And we're a technology company.
"And seek them they did: Chrome now enjoys over 60 per cent market share..."
Surely if it were just a case of "seeking" then surely the market shares of Chome, Firefox and other browsers would be much closer to each other?
Or is the runaway success of Chrome something to do with Google plastering great big "Download Chrome!" calls to action in very visible locations on their search landing and results pages???
Once again, Google abusing their monopoly on web search to undercut their competitors, just like the numerous adverts for Pixel phones on Youtube videos...
Two different machines, both running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
Both running 20H2, OS Build 19042.985.
Both running Edge Version 90.0.818.62 (Official build) (64-bit)
One has the "Allow sites to be reloaded in Internet Explorer mode" under Default Browser in Edge Settings, one doesn't.
The one that does has "Reload in Internet Explorer mode" under More Tools, the other doesn't.
Both have a Microsoft 365 account associated, neither has Edge as the default browser and neither has syncing turned on.
Both claim to be up to date on Edge version and WIndows updates.,
Well done Mickysoft. Can't even be consistent.
>It's always good practise to get rid of redundant cruft.
Trouble is that whilst I've installed Edge and manually changed my default browser, I'm still surprised at just how much Windows still insists on firing up IE when I okay "Open in web browser".
Perhaps MS need to remove IE from the code base for Win10 starting 21H1 and let their in-house developers feel the pain.
Many major clinical systems in the NHS still require IE. I'm quite sure that this date, much like EOL for Windows XP and 7, will be ignored, then come as a surprise when it happens. At best that will necessitate a knee jerk reaction to hire expensive contract resource to purge it from the estate, at worst it will be another Wannacry. Either way nobody will take responsibility, and the purchasing of new technical debt will continue to line up the next disaster.
Well. The last couple of migrations from on-prem ad/exchange to an office 365 domain required me to use Internet explorer as part of that process. Otherwise it would not have been possible no matter what I tried via Edge or Chrome. This is on 2012R2 and Server 2008R2 too. So even Microsoft themselves are still getting it wrong never mind third party systems!
Yeah easy to forget about at home but there is a pile of legacy crap out there that won't work on anything but IE (half of it probably still demands IE6).
Lots of very large companies make some very big and expensive products which they spend fuck all on development to keep up to date with current dependencies.
Basically screw the customers, it's their risk to run old bit of crap on their networks even if our critical software demands it.
Who is going to pay to upgrade the software? Yes, if you have a large market and spend nothing on development then perhaps you should be criticised, but not if there's no income to do so.
However, IE is still fully supported for now, and the engine will continue to be fully supported.
If I think of the products at work which require IE they are without exception older highly custom products that have massive diversions from modern baseline products. Their product is still secure and functional.
If IE support was dropped completely I know the action would be to force the older customers on to modern baseline products. They would lose their historic customisations. When you don't make enough money from a customer to fund substantial improvements and the customisations wouldn't help anyone else, the customer is likely to walk away due to loss of functionality. It's a lose/lose for all parties.
I guess, I will maintain a version of Windows that will still have Internet Explorer, the only browser with access to the iLO cards in the HP servers. And the D@hua security camera systems. A lot of stuff that is in use, and will be in use for quite some time only works in IE.
Once FireFox starts to provide the option to access insecure legacy stuff, I will say goodbye to IE, but until then, even though I do not use it for browsing, it is a mission critical tool for day to day tasks.
This is going to hit my country--Thailand--hard. Every govt service is based on IE. I suspect it's the samev for most third world countries. Of course, none of these 'services' are actually functional! Every govt employee refers one to their Hotmail address. WTF, eh!
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