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Parler, the social network favored by the far-right, is back up on Apple’s App Store and will apparently rely on AI algorithms to automatically flag hate speech. Big Tech deplatformed Parler after it was used by Trump supporters to whip up hate and violence amid an attempted insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6. Parler …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Sentiment Analysis"

    I'd be curious to know what that means, and whether someone writing "LOL J/K" at the end of a post completely negates the AI's decision...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yeah, there are a million ways this can go wrong, and no daylight in the hope that it will actually work.

      No one can do this well, cost effectively, and consistently. I suspect they(Parler) intend to just let it fail most of the time, but Hive gets to be a scapegoat.

      My gut this will melt down almost immediately as every troll in the world piles on the problem. First will be a round of well meaning but ineffective patcher. Parler will throw Hive under the bus, then it will become a game of whac-a-mole for a bit as Parler is forced to switch from one failing provider to another.

      The math gets simple in the long run. Q-anon, the anti-vaxxers, and the nationalist/Domestic Terrorist crowd will never generate enough revenue of offset the cost of moderating their content. So like attempting to breathe in space or fly by flapping your arms very quickly, Parler try to fail, and succeed in doing so, setting mountains of conservative cash on fire in the process, but to survive they will need another plan.

      1. Lon24 Silver badge

        That would be good. But is there a shortage of conservative cash? Our very own conspiracist Looza Fox tapped a cool £5 million in what was always going to be a bit of a disaster in the London mayoral elections. Well, unless you rate 1.9% as good value for money.

      2. martyn.hare

        Why aim to make money though?

        It is one of the biggest misnomers that sites on the internet have to make money. Sharing is caring and it is time we took all the money away because it’s corrupting everything.

        Try using a couple of simple services:

        * Gnutella and BitTorrent for public file sharing

        * IRC for group communication

        * XMPP for one-to-one chats

        Then compare them to all the stupid, inane WWW equivalents. It will become very obvious, very fast as to why things are as screwed up as they are (hint: greed)

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The readers wait, with the sound of popcorn crunching in the background...

    ...because this isn't going to go well, and that might be an entertaining thing to watch.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The entire Alt-Right movement

    is a massive false-flag operation designed by Bill Gates, writing as QAnon, to trick patriots into identifying themselves.

    The only way to protect yourself is to hide amongst the AntiFa, mouthing their slogans and promoting their causes.

    You have been warned.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: The entire Alt-Right movement

      Antifa doesn't exist, just ask them.

      1. fredesmite2

        Re: The entire Alt-Right movement

        Ike was the 1st AntiFA.

        1. Santa from Exeter

          Re: The entire Alt-Right movement

          Ike was a bit late to the party.

          Just ask the residents of Cable Street.

    2. fredesmite2

      Re: The entire Alt-WHITE movement



  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    wouldn’t it just be easier to flag all of the content as hate speech?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Yet to be convinced

    That the majority of these Parler QAnon types can even write/type.

    Maybe it’s mostly just racist bots!

    1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge

      Re: Yet to be convinced

      The dead giveaway is that the bots are literate and coherent.

  6. fredesmite2

    what is parler ??

    a cesspool of poorly educated #TrumpBillies and #TrumpTrash complaining how their white privilege is being threatened.

  7. NerryTutkins

    skynet, this is how it happens

    I remember Microsoft had to pull the plug in its own AI after a day because it started spewing race hate after a few hours of interacting with the public.

    Just imagine what an AI interacting exclusively with redneck conspiracy theorists and insurrectionists is going to be doing after a day or two.

  8. tip pc Silver badge

    Guardian comments

    Would love to see how this AI powered moderation works on the comments on the guardian.

    They can be truly vile.

    1. Lazlo Woodbine

      Re: Guardian comments

      The Mail comments are often just pure evil

  9. DS999 Silver badge

    They still need humans to respond quickly

    The "AI" will be far from perfect, it will let through some really bad stuff. Will there be a way for someone to 'report' that for a human to look at? Will any of their userbase WANT to report something like that, or will they use the examples of stuff that gets through to train themselves how to avoid Parler's AI?

    The bigger problem from Parler's PR perspective is needing a way to report/review stuff that gets flagged that should not have been. If enough legit stuff gets taken down automatically and there's no way to appeal that, the userbase will begin posting conspiracy theories about how the "new Parler" is being operated by Hillary Clinton out of Cuba designed to entrap the alt-whites.

    1. TheFifth

      Re: They still need humans to respond quickly

      "begin posting conspiracy theories about how the "new Parler" is being operated by Hillary Clinton out of Cuba designed to entrap the alt-whites"

      That's actually a pretty good idea! If they believed Hillary was operating a child sex trafficking ring from the basement of a pizzeria that didn't have a basement, surely it won't be too tricky to convince them of this?

  10. EnviableOne Silver badge

    I know the AI their using

    They bought Tay from M$

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