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China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology had a busy Monday as it declared the country's intention to be both a manufacturing and a network superpower, and claimed progress towards the latter goal is illustrated with some seemingly odd statistics. Liu Liehong, Deputy Minister of the Ministry of Industry and …

  1. jake Silver badge

    Sorry, China.

    You will never become a network superpower until you allow the two killer apps of The Internet. That would be complete freedom of reading and writing, without fear of going to jail or worse.

    And you can tell Winnie the Pooh I said so, too.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sorry, China.

      "You will never become a network superpower until you allow two killer apps of The Internet"

      Twitter and free porn?

    2. fwadman

      Re: Sorry, China.

      Given that the internet is now full of woke apologists - censorship seems like a good thing

      1. prismatics

        Re: Sorry, China.

        In some ways we already have certain effects resulting from the “recommendations” and “feeds” limiting the reach of what people say. Of course one would argue that “interest” based valuation is not really censorship, but how are we able to say that if the “algorithms” are not documented? YouTube would be a prime example where things like automatic shadow banning are a thing too.

        We have something comparable, we just don’t call or recognise it as censorship.

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Sorry, China.

          Oh, horse shit. That's corporations deciding what is and isn't allowed on their equipment, and individuals deciding which corporation(s) to draw their information from. It has nothing whatsoever to do with governmental censorship ... and only a government can truly be a censor.

      2. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: Sorry, China.

        I'm sorry that you think the free market exercising its right to decide what to allow on their private property is "censorship". Boy has the republican party changed in the past decade.

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Sorry, China.

          There is a free market in China? What colo(u)r is the sky on your planet?

          You better smile when you call me a republican, pardner. Them's fightin' words ...

          1. DS999 Silver badge

            Re: Sorry, China.

            My reply was to fwadman's post, not yours.

            1. jake Silver badge
              Pint

              Re: Sorry, China.

              Oops. Mea culpa.

              Damn El Reg's b0rken threading ... Beer?

    3. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Re: Sorry, China.

      Sadly the west's appetite for cheap tat and out-sourcing to give bigger bonuses to the management says otherwise. How many companies or countries actually do anything against the Chinese government's increasingly authoritarian stance?

      I rather suspect the UK will suck up to them again when Boso needs some trade deal or someone to fund new power stations, etc.

      1. Plonquer
        Pirate

        Re: Sorry, China.

        You've obviously never been to China. They are already about a decade ahead of the West.

        My company's office in Beijing has dedicated 100Gb/s InfiniBand lines. We've had 5G at home now for near two years. OK so Huawei monitors me and Ren Zheng Fei knows when I take a dump. But I have hi speed Internet and you don't.

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Sorry, China.

          Time to paraphrase ol' Ben, methinks ...

          "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little bandwidth deserve neither liberty nor bandwidth."

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