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The US government's Department of Commerce has added seven Chinese supercomputing companies to its Entity list, meaning American businesses need a special licence to work with them. The department’s announcement of the new listings says the Chinese companies are “are involved with building supercomputers used by China’s …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The problem is it relatively easy for the government to put export embargo on advanced devices, relative to denying the consumer economy the delights of Chinese manufacturing.

  2. cookieMonster

    Is that you Xi ??

  3. Duncan Macdonald Silver badge

    Design software ?

    It is rather difficult for the US to put effective bans on the use of the chip design software that China is already using.

    It seems to me that there is a segment of the US government that wants a war to try to hide their own failings.

    These embargoes remind me of the ones that the US imposed on Japan prior to WW2 which was one of the main reasons for Japan attacking the US at Pearl Harbor.

    Is the US government stupid enough to believe that ANYONE wins in a nuclear (or biological) war ?

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Design software ?

      "Is the US government stupid enough to believe that ANYONE wins in a nuclear (or biological) war ?"

      There are some in the US that think COVID-19 is the first step in a biological war.

      Sad, innit?

      1. Duncan Macdonald Silver badge

        Re: Design software ?

        Covid-19 has an overall death rate of under 1% - a real biowarfare agent would have a death rate of over 50%.

        Many of the epidemics of the 19th and 20th centuries had death rates way higher than covid-19 (eg Spanish Flu).

        And still many Americans believe Trump's idea that covid-19 was a Chinese bioweapon - SAD.

        Icon for the brains of the people who believe covid-19 was a bioweapon =====>

        1. StargateSg7

          Re: Design software ?

          COVID-19 was simple stupidity and ignorance rather than outright malice!

          The Wuhan bio-research lab was funded by BOTH Canada and the USA as a social program-oriented disease control and research centre which had mostly young 30-and-under employees that were/are inexperienced in handling and adhering to Level-3 and Level-4 biocontainment procedures.

          These young workers constantly worked with little protective gear while handling all sorts of flu and corona-like virii eventually cross-contaminating themselves and bringing their contaminated clothing and selves to home and to the MANY street-food stalls and various live-markets (i.e. live animal selling for food) where they tended to buy their daily foodstuffs and home hardware from.

          If you have EVER been to the Wuhan area, it is TEN TIMES the size of Seattle in population and those street food stalls and live animal markets have almost NO sanitation and have completely unsafe food handling procedures. (i.e. the food tastes GREAT but you get sick a lot eating there!)

          Those corona-like virii then "pollinated" into the local animal and human eco-system where mutations came fast and furious, and then became rampant within the local population probably starting around in 2017 to 2018. I remember Chinese colleagues mentioning in late 2018/early 2019 the severe lung infections some of their relatives had in that area that suspiciously sounded a lot like the symptoms of Bird Flue and/or COVID-19.

          From there, the MANY flights of Chinese Wuhan-locals and local area visitors and businessmen to and from Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle (USA) plus Vancouver and Toronto (Canada) and then London (UK) and Dusseldorf (Germany) started the march of COVID into North America and Europe by Spring/Summer 2019 which morphed into the bad COVID-19 versions we had in 2020 and in 2021!

          Again, it was sheer stupidity and ignorance amongst the young employees of a North American Funded Chinese disease control and research centre that caused COVID-19. Canada had some similar incidents at its Level 4 biocontainment lab in Winnipeg starting around 2008 I think when it wasn't fully up and running for certified BSL-4 (Biosafety Level 4) containment. The precursor to that lab was rife with pathogen release incidents due to incompetence and mismangement. It took the Federal Government of Canada YEARS to bring that lab up to snuff with modern standards! We are VERY LUCKY nothing super-virulent came out of that!


      2. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: Design software ?

        If China wanted a biological war all they actually needed to do at any time in the last 3-4 years would be to lob a few infected pigs(*) into Wisconson or other pork farming centres. Plausible deniability and all that...

        (*) China's been battling an outbreak of haemmoragic african swine fever ("Pig ebola" zoonotic) that's been raging across Asia for the last 5-6 years, culling hundreds of millions of pigs and putting millions of farmers out of business in the process. That's WHY soybean purchases plummeted in the first place - you don't buy animal feed for animals which no longer exist. Meantime pork smuggling across internal chinese biological protection borders is rampant and continuing to spread the disease (which might give a hint about how much control the government REALLY has over the people when the people don't want to cooperate)

  4. Missing Semicolon Silver badge


    The current prez seems to do a lot of things the previous one did (and was called out for) but with less Twitter.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @Missing Semicolon - Re: 'sfunny

      Imagine something like the scene from The Simpsons movie in which the US president is presented with options to chose from. And those are the guys who correctly predicted Donald Trump will become US president.

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