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The Open Source Initiative (OSI) on Friday said it will redo its recent Board Election after uncovering a voting irregularity that affected the results. "This week we found a vulnerability in our voting processes that was exploited and had an impact on the outcome of the recent Board Election," said Deb Nicholson, interim …

  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

    The axe is 50% wood - it's one of us

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

      Little known fact: Loggers[0] plant more trees than they cut ... in North America, anyway. Doing otherwise is destroying your own income, and the height of stupidity. Each year, far more trees are planted than are harvested. Seems that wood is a renewable resource, regardless of what you might have heard from the greenaholic wingnuts.

      [0] Sorry, "forest product companies".

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

        Although planting miles of single species Pine/Fir/Spruce in what was meadow or mixed woodland isn't exactly green

        1. Martin Gregorie Silver badge

          Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

          It didn't look at all like that when I was driving round the Olympic Peninsula in the early '90s. Just vast areas with 2-3 metre high stumps where big trees had been lopped off and carted away with little concern for making use of as much of the wood as possible. What regrowth was visible was obviously natural regrowth and owed nothing to any sort of planned replanting.

          1. jake Silver badge

            Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

            That was then, this is now. Oly was a last hold-out of old-school logging practices, which you probably know (not being disingenuous, are you?). For an insider's look at that particular situation, see this page. Note the aerial pictures showing the regrowth in a mere 30 years or so. The forests are a lot more resilient than people are given to believe.

            You often won't see the intentionally planted seedlings on casual inspection, but trust me, they are usually there ... although the forest is pretty good about starting seedlings all by itself when sunlight manages to hit the ground. Sometimes a good fire helps (if you don't believe me, take a tour of the burn zones from a couple years ago here in Northern California).

            Those stumps are left for all kinds of reasons. Usually it's a combination of being on a hill (the stump looks taller from the down-hill side), and the bell or flair at the bottom making for a pain in the butt hauling it out of the woods, and at the sawmill (for irregular size and sap reasons, and occasional metal embedded down low), so they cut above it. Sometimes we'll cut above a rotted heart.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

              Loggers replanting trees is the equivalent of stripping a birthday cake of all icing, candles and decorations to only put the candles back... you just lost 66.67% of the intended state. Of course what happens if when the candles are put back an accidental fire breaks out... compound interest in the wrong direction.

              While once just a piff or a beatnik idea, it might finally be true that if you own a rug, you own too much. Inevitably, that will have to become true at some point, it's just physics.

              1. jake Silver badge

                Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

                Nah. Loggers replanting trees is the same as any other farmer ensuring a new crop. It's nothing new, country folks used to plant new trees every year to replace those lost to firewood, it only stands to reason. Also see coppicing, which Redwood trees are rather good at naturally ... and why do you think self-cut Xmas tree farms ask you to leave a lower branch? That branch becomes another tree bye and bye.

              2. Little Mouse Silver badge

                Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

                Our wood has to come from somewhere though, so better to keep on taking it from a well managed farm than continually levelling virgin woodland

                Driving through New Zealand's Tarawera region was a real eye-opener for the whole family. Eco-daughter was initially aghast at the site of the tree-stumped 'devastation', but then seeing the different vast areas all in different stages of regrowth was a real up-close education in how these places are managed, long-term.

                1. Youngone

                  Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

                  Go a bit further south in New Zealand, and take a look at how Pinus Radiata takes over the entire landscape, leaving no room for anything else.

                  Your eco daughter would once again be aghast.

        2. jake Silver badge

          Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

          No, it isn't. Greepeace should stick to sinking boats, and other things that it is good at.

          Folks who actually know a thing or two about forestry know the difference between restoration of woodlands and greenwashing. And here in California, eradicating the totally useless eucalyptus weeds is weeding, not logging.

          1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

            Re: loggers who claim to speak for the trees.

            >Greepeace should stick to sinking boats, and other things that it is good at.

            I don't think you can actually blame Greenpeace for the French sinking their boat

  2. Tom Chiverton 1

    Seems obvious...

    Seems they probably(e)mailed one (or more people) more than one voting code then. Easy to do.

    1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

      Re: Seems obvious...

      Easy, you say? I wonder if the Nominet ballot made that mistake?

  3. needmorehare
    Joke

    Given enough votes, all elections are rigged

    aka. Trump's Law

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Given enough votes, all elections are rigged

      See Myanmar, explicitly using Trump's logic. MMDA : Making Myanmar a Dictatorship Again.

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  5. Mage Silver badge

    Paper

    Paper ballots cast by humans, counted by humans, who are watched by humans.

    https://xkcd.com/2030/

    and Bruce Schneier says the same.

    They can be posted.

  6. umacf24
    Meh

    One 'b' in suborn.

    (sorry)

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