back to article Japanese billionaire invites y'all to apply for an all-expenses-paid Moon trip in a SpaceX Starship – like the one that blew up today

Japanese tycoon Yusaku Maezawa this week opened an application process for eight people to accompany him to the Moon aboard SpaceX’s Starship. Breaking news... Yes, that's the same Starship that just an hour or so ago blew up on the landing pad after a test flight in Texas. SpaceX flew the serial number 10 of the prototype …

  1. redpawn Silver badge

    Tempting

    but "pushing the envelope" while in a space ship does not sound like a good idea. I'd want fellow passengers who did not. They could even be half man, half bear & half pig as long as they had better than common sense.

    1. tel130y
      Mushroom

      Re: Tempting

      ½ m + ½ b + ½ p = 1½ mbp. ..messy!

      1. Graham Dawson Silver badge

        Re: Tempting

        He's super serial!

  2. sanmigueelbeer Silver badge
    Coat

    I nominate ...

    I nominate Donald J Trump.

    1. sreynolds

      Re: I nominate ...

      Hehehe... I would like to add Crazy Ted Cruz to turn it into a real shitshow.

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I nominate ...

      When it comes to the truth, he is able to push the envelope so far that the truth probably reaches escape velocity and out into space. So, eminently qualified.

  3. GraXXoR
    Coat

    All expenses paid?

    Has never been cheaper to go out with a bang.

    1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

      Re: All expenses paid?

      Poor #10, mostly landed, then mostly scrap. Will be interesting to find out what happened, ie if it's legs didn't deploy properly or it landed too hard.

      But I guess a free trip would be fun, but having travelled all that way, I'd want to land on the Moon. There's also been some great pics coming back from Mars. Think that will be a better tourist destination once it's been terraformed though.

      1. MachDiamond Silver badge

        Re: All expenses paid?

        " ie if it's legs didn't deploy properly or it landed too hard."

        It looked like it almost landed, throttled up and then shut down which made it hit hard. That can happen with a "cup" engine compartment and a MEMS IMU. Been there, got the mission patch.

        Beyond the landing, there is still a lot of venting. That tells me they aren't managing tank pressures very well. With pump fed motors, the problem is usually making up volume in the tanks, not excess pressure. I still see strange gimbaling of the motors and brief fires in the engine compartment.

        At least the flip seems to have been programmed more than 3 meters from the ground.

        1. Jellied Eel Silver badge

          Re: All expenses paid?

          That can happen with a "cup" engine compartment and a MEMS IMU. Been there, got the mission patch.

          MEMS as in micromirror arrays? They're possibly one of my favorite components, even though I never got my pseudo-hologram generator working.

          Beyond the landing, there is still a lot of venting. That tells me they aren't managing tank pressures very well. With pump fed motors, the problem is usually making up volume in the tanks, not excess pressure. I still see strange gimbaling of the motors and brief fires in the engine compartment.

          Yep, I thought SN10 vented more than previous launches, with something seemingly venting during the launch and descent. I've also been curious about those fires under the skirt, both in flight and after this one landed. I guess SpaceX may need to consider some form of Starship pad bidet to get water into it's undercarriage, if the skirt's preventing the fire supression jets from reaching those bits.

          At least the flip seems to have been programmed more than 3 meters from the ground.

          That part's a bit disconcerting wrt manned flights, ie what forces on the people inside would experience during that manoeuver. Seems a tad agressive given the flip & braking forces, and presumably adds stresses via ullage. And I guess a more gentle flip & descent would mean reserving more fuel for landing and a reduced payload.

          1. First Light Silver badge

            Re: All expenses paid?

            Getting water from the bidet under the skirt? Oo, er, missus!

        2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          Re: All expenses paid?

          "It looked like it almost landed, throttled up and then shut down which made it hit hard."

          I don't know enough to agree or disagree re the engine throttle, but it certainly seemed to bounce at touchdown indicating to me that hit ground harder than planned and the legs sprung back or the engine didn't shutdown quite soon enough.

      2. Def Silver badge

        Re: All expenses paid?

        Think that will be a better tourist destination once it's been terraformed though.

        Until someone figures out how to create an artificial magnetosphere, I can't see much terraforming taking place on Mars. I.e., it's not happening any time soon.

      3. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        I wouldn't mind taking a stroll on the regolith, but we're talking an entire different kettle of frozen fish and the amount of possible issues are likely an order of magnitude greater than by just flying over it.

        I think that, for a first try, a successful flyby and safe return will already be a major achievement.

      4. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: All expenses paid?

        "...if it's legs didn't deploy properly"

        It didn't have a leg to stand on

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It landed

    It landed this time, which is one up from the previous attempts. Hopefully SN11 will land and not explode.

    1. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: It landed

      It landed twice. See, it's reusable. The second time was not quite as successful as the first, but we'll blame that on the failure during the second ascent.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        It was actually three times

        If you look carefully at some of the other video feeds, you can see that it bounced on the first landing ;-)

    2. Tom 7 Silver badge

      Re: It landed

      In the BBC video flames (not rocket exhaust) were visible before it landed. It was doomed before it got to earth.

    3. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Bingo!

      Hopefully the legs on SN11 will not buckle...

      - Legs 11

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Haven't we been here before?

    Titanic.

    And Leo actually wants to go...

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  8. JDPower Bronze badge

    Just for clarity, it wasn't deliberately detonated, as the article suggest could be the case. The safety charges are halfway up the vehicle, not at the bottom where the explosion started.

  9. First Light Silver badge

    Expansive

    I just binge-watched The Expanse S5 for free on an Amazon Prime trial, so I was impressed when it reversed direction like something from the show!

    I am waaaaay too claustrophobic to ever go up in one though.

    Even plane takeoffs make me uncomfortable . . . or maybe that's just cattle class . . .

    1. First Light Silver badge

      Re: Expansive

      Which reminds me I have to go cancel my Amazon Prime.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Claustrophobic?

      The passenger variant will have about the same space (by volume) as a 747!

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Musk stated that everything was on track, and that Starship will have "reached orbit many times" before Maezawa’s planned launch date in 2023."

    Given the track record, I'm also very confident that starship will have reached orbit many times by then. The prospective passengers may want to see many successful landings though.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Bungalow Legs

    I've been a bit unsteady on my legs of late - the legs have visibly wasted. Lockdown has meant much less walking. I mentioned this to my Sister the other day - she said "you have Bungalow Legs" - apparently it is a well known condition, especially in less active elderly living in.. Bungalows. Whilst I would not normally be classified as "elderly" (may be old git), I do live in a Bungalow.

    >https://www.chilled-out.co.uk/bungalow-legs-a-condition-suffered-by-the-elderly-is-growing/

  12. sabroni Silver badge

    So litterally just using the phrase

    pedo-guys get's my post deleted?

    Why would that be?

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