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The new self-appointed military government of Myanmar has temporarily banned Facebook. The local arm of multinational mobile carrier Telenor said it has received an order from the nation’s Ministry of Transport and Communications and has enacted it “while expressing grave concerns regarding breach of human rights.” Newswire …

  1. doublelayer Silver badge

    Somebody finally did it

    And to think I was thinking military coups are always such a bad thing. At least someone has the courage to turn off the privacy invader for once.

    In all seriousness, what we really should create is a reliable, single-standard, easy-to-use encrypted mesh communication app that also does centralized communication. Existing mesh apps are usually tricky to get working or have such a small footprint that nobody bothers to use them. Also, who has the foresight to install one before something happens making it useful? Imagine what it would be like if Signal had a mesh option. People would use it normally because it had a guaranteed message delivery system, and if access was cut, either to Signal's servers or generally, there would still be the ability to communicate locally. Especially if there was a method to send messages through a node with connectivity should that be available. Not that Signal is the only available app for this purpose. The technical challenges are substantial, but the benefits for a situation like this one could be similarly large.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Somebody finally did it

      Because 98.7% of the messages on it would be Nabokov-esq porn and the other 128% would be conspiracy nuts explaining how Jewish space lasers are responsible for burning their toast.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Prosecute Min Aung Hlaing

    If Min Aung Hlaing is suppressing communications, it means he hasn't suppressed dissent yet, so they're not the new government, he's just a self declared leader, lacking any legitimacy. Don't use the term "government" for a self declared leader. Aung San Suu Kyi is the elected leader, she is the government.

    Just because some fat old man declares himself the rightful winner of an election, and tries to shut down "fake news" media for saying otherwise, doesn't mean you have to follow him, or his co-conspirators.

    80% voted for democracy in Myanmar, that's a large part of the military too. Is he even the legitimate leader of the military? She was elected, so she appoints the Generals, he isn't the leader of the military, he has no legitimacy even to wear that uniform.

    Hold a show trial of Min Aung Hlaing for his attempted coup, they should shut down everything connected to Myanmar, no 'business as usual', shut it down, declare Min Aung Hlaing illegitimate, personalize the coup to him. If they hand him over and the country can open up again.

    Also US Democrats, see the lesson here? Aung San Suu Kyi didn't have guards loyal to her, she didn't take care of her personal security independent of the government. If the Jan 6th plotters had got their way, that would be you. You would have been detained by Trump's insurrection mob, while the Capitol police had been ordered to stand down by Christopher Miller, Trump's last minute appointee just after he lost the election:

    https://twitter.com/earlymodjustice/status/1355593228490321922

    It was your own personal protection guards that saved you. You were one bullet away from a successful coup with Trump and his Republican co-conspirators replacing the Electoral College votes with the Republican shadow list of Electoral College votes. So don't ignore all the co-conspirators that played their part in that. Not just Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley, but the groups that submitted Republican fake electoral college lists too, the propaganda groups that pumped up the lies with sock puppet Facebook and Twitter accounts. They'll try again if they get away with it.

    If Aung San Suu Kyi had her loyal guard, and a shootout had happened, the foot soldiers would have to decide between following her, or following the coup plotter and that test would have resulted in her ousting the military coup plotter, since clearly 80% voted for her.

    Democracy is the only legitimate leadership. *We* the people, not *you* the fat old liar.

    1. Cuddles Silver badge

      Re: Prosecute Min Aung Hlaing

      "Aung San Suu Kyi is the elected leader, she is the government... Democracy is the only legitimate leadership."

      You mean Win Myint? Because that's who was actually elected leader. It's actually quite interesting to how vociferous you are about democracy being the only legitimate way, while simultaneously supporting someone who was not democractically elected. The same someone who has clamped down heavily on free speech and journalism while not just disenfranchising a substantial portion of the population but actively committing genocide against them. Placing Aung San Suu Kyi into a newly invented post specifically created to subvert the constitution may well have been better than an outright military coup, but it's hardly the bastion of free and fair democracy you seem to believe.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Prosecute Min Aung Hlaing

        "You mean Win Myint? Because that's who was actually elected leader."

        "Aung San Suu Kyi" was barred from standing in the election by the military leadership, i.e. this general. Win Myint is her proxy. They claimed she was ineligible to be elected because she was married to an Englishman, a contrived mechanism.

        Nobody is confused about what or who they're voting for, and it was not the military they voted for it was Aung San Suu Kyi.

        Nobody.

        " but actively committing genocide against them"

        So now its clear to you, that General Min Aung Hlaing was actually calling the shots all along, you're also clear he's also calling the shots against the Rohingya.

        Who else do you think ordered the military operations against the Rohingya, and against Aung San Suu Kyi! Aung San Suu Kyi herself? Do you imagine the military followed her in one case and not the other?

  3. Winkypop Silver badge
    Devil

    The military government of Myanmar has temporarily banned Facebook

    So not all bad then.

    1. chivo243 Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: The military government of Myanmar has temporarily banned Facebook

      I guess there is one advantage to a Military coup?! Who would have thunk?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: The military government of Myanmar has temporarily banned Facebook

        I'm not sure that the equivalent of "even a stopped clock is correct twice a day" is a rational basis for a system of government.

        -

        Sword distributing pond dwellers, however, ... ... :-)

        1. yetanotheraoc

          Re: The military government of Myanmar has temporarily banned Facebook

          Ah yes, the "watery tart". See, even I know a little history.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: The military government of Myanmar has temporarily banned Facebook

        I guess there is one advantage to a Military coup?! Who would have thunk?

        Can we have one as well please? General Carter seems like a reasonable sort of bloke. And he didn't go to Eton...

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ironic

    If restrictions have been lifted in Rohingya areas, it will because the army wants you to see exactly what happens next, and I don't think it will be ironic.

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  6. yetanotheraoc

    Network effect

    Or, eggs in one basket. They're not picking on Facebook because it's Facebook, but because it's popular and turning it off has a large censoring effect. I think the practical lesson for people wanting to keep their lines of communication from being cut is to have more than one. Line A is down, switch to line B. Even the military uses the public internet (although they shouldn't), so they can't keep that cut for long. But individual services, yes.

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