Wah Wah Wah Waaaaaaaaaah
New term to coin, Raise you arm above your head and rotate it: Air News.
Bass. Treble. Mid. Volume. Erm, footswitch and... 5G FREQ?! We've got it, people, we've found the top-secret diagram of the "COVID-19 5G chip" that Bill Gates is going to insert into our brains! We imagine this is the thought process of conspiracy theorists who have misappropriated a schematic for Boss's legendary MT-2 Metal …
Never underestimate the deep stupidity of conspiracy theorists
HUH??? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??????
I mean, it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the Boss MT-2 Metal Zone pedal was used by AC/DC's Angus Young1 on the solo of "INJECT THE VENOM"!!!!!!!!
COINCIDENCE????!!!!!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1Yes I know, in reality Angus wouldn't soil his guitar sound with moshy Boss transistor crassness, the only things he used were valves, valves, and more valves...
2Obligatory XKCD - https://xkcd.com/1013/
Long before XKCD commented on the subject of sheeple, E. C. Segar used the term in a Popeye cartoon in 1930.
Given that such terms are often in the common vernacular long before making it into print, the term has probably been used to describe people blindly following [something] without bothering to actually think about what they are following for well over a century. There is a reason that Orwell used sheep the way he did in 1945's Animal Farm.
I thought we were discussing the history of word "sheeple" as used in the English Language, not the history of the effect that it is describing. The effect itself goes back to the first proto-shaman separating the ignorant from their meager scavenged food because his cave or hollow tree looked scary. Cushiest job in Africa a couple million years ago, I'm sure.
Yes, but the true, diehard conspiracy theorists are now saying that someone intercepted the graphic and reimposed a guitar pedal circuit diagram to make them look stupid.
Golden Rule #1: Never try to disprove a conspiracy theorist as all you are doing is to confirm to them that everyone really is out to get them.
Trump would keep setting the clock back so he'd have more time to 'think', and having been checkmated already, will put pressure on FIDE to have them declare half your moves illegal .In the end, having received 'no' for an answer after making offers that can easily be refused, he takes a golf club and smashes the board and all the remaining pieces.
 the ones you allowed him to capture are immediately locked up.
"Yes, but the true, diehard conspiracy theorists are now saying that someone intercepted the graphic and reimposed a guitar pedal circuit diagram to make them look stupid."
You've noticed this, as well?
I love arguing with them on various forums. Their standard MO is to post about ten completely unrelated conspiracies in answer to every single challenge (copious links to the Corbett Report are mandatory), or merely 'hint' at things in answer to complex explanations (i.e. "do your research" and 'wake up" are absolutely genuine favourites).
The upshot is that you can never, never, EVER get any closer to making them see or admit they're wrong - even with fundamental science issues. It's like trying to pick up Jell-o with a pin.
They just branch off with new unrelated conspiracies ad infinitum.
Worse. I met these people last year in Cancun. These are ‘ordinary’ Americans who so totally believe that Trump is 100% right and that the Vatican, Israel, Iran and China are working together to destroy them (why is it always the Jews?). One couple had an amazingly levelheaded and convincing argument as to why Gates, Cook, Clinton and Musk were going to introduce a ‘Nexus 6’ type chip into the vaccines to limit human life once they have retired and are no longer productive.
Following the ‘play up to them’ aspect both my wife and I showed them our vaccination scars and convinced them that we had already been timestamped for death in 2040 at age 70.
I love America but by God they make it hard to do so.
"I love America but by God they make it hard to do so."
Au contraire, you should be proud that your country tolerates these fools and their damaging nonsense so indulgently. Lesser countries might just arrest them for bad thinking and put them in a special place where they can be re-educated.
'..Yes, but the true, diehard conspiracy theorists are now saying that someone intercepted the graphic and reimposed a guitar pedal circuit diagram to make them look stupid.'
No no no, far too simplistic...
True Diehard conspiracy theorists are now working on a scenario involving lizard people alien technowizardry Inorporated in the femtotech slaver chips contained in the various vaccines only being activated by the sound of a specific '64 SG fitted with pickups made from reversed engineered alien tech recovered from the Roswell crash played through one of these pedals.
Once a goodly number of the sheeple have been vaccinated, there will be a global hit engineered, most probably with lyrics celebrating the end of the Covid terror (but lyrics with darker, deeper, mocking hidden NWO meanings). This hit will feature the guitar solo which will enslave humanity, played on the guitar, through this pedal design.
And once activated, the slaver chips (which by this time, should all be in position in all of our brains) will obviously then be controlled by the 5G network.
I know this all to be very true, as I once read it all in a mate of a mate's photocopy of a photocopy of the Varo Edition of John Dee's original green biro manuscript translation of the very very ultra secret prophecies of Nostradamus...
(Paging Mr Birnes...paging Mr Birnes...)
The true diehard Q conspiracists are now saying Biden is JFK Jr and he's been allowed to win by Trump- because he's actually an undercover Trump cabalist who's going to carry on the work of rooting out the satanic paedophiles.
Don't believe me? It's all out there already and is gaining ground.
Whoever first imagined this Q conspiracy must be drowning in a lake of piss from all the laughter at the morons who believe it.
If those nanobots are built around this circuit there will be a marked increase in appreciation for heavy metal, which as all good people know has deep ties with Satanism just like the 'music' by those four perverts from Liverpool, Satanism involves child sacrifices and this all needs to be prevented at all cost. Even torching not-5G phone base stations is perfectly fine because you just need to be very very thorough in cases like this.
 and if not directly obvious you should just play the songs backwards.
Back in April - when MSN still had a comments forum - I was having fun with several of the resident crackpots.
Back then, the 'chip-in-a-vaccine' conspiracy was rife, and they even had a patent number - this is the actual patent: https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
Try as I might, I could not get them to understand that mind-control was not included - if indeed a vaccination was.
One particular character would repeat the number in every post, on every article about COVID. He would not budge an inch.
My 4 favourite / most useful lines from my moderately lengthy home dnsmasq  config are :
It's perfectly possible to exist without social media... once you realise it's mostly bollocks, and anything of value can be found in other channels..
 All hail and give thanks to Simon Kelly
If only this would stop the theorists, but they'll say it's a deep state conspiracy to undermine them and move on. Also if they're proper gear heads they'll argue over whether or not an analog or digital pedal is better and what sort of NOS opamps it should have had and how much better it would have sounded it it was made by hand with germanium transistors and carbon resistors.
A volume control on these nutcases might not be the worst idea in the world though......
Just don't look at his face: Gary Moore's last live performance of Parisienne Walkways
Ha ha, its funny, except it isn't.
Q. How many people need to take the vaccine for herd immunity?
"Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday that 90% of the population may need to be immune in order to stop the coronavirus from spreading, a marked increase from estimates earlier in the pandemic that put the figure closer to 60-70%"
Q. How many US Americans are prepared to be vaccinated?
"Fox News’ Tucker Carlson has ramped up misleading anti-vaccine conspiracy theories on his nightly prime-time show as the latest polls show ONLY HALF of Americans are willing to take a coronavirus vaccine"
Half. Not enough people in the US will take the vaccine to suppress the virus, even if only 60% needed to take it to get herd immunity, Fox News has spewed enough lies to keep it below that.
Without the vaccine 1 in 100 people will die, R0 is greater than 1 and it will inevitably spread. Fox News will kill 1% of the population.
With the vaccine, 1 in ~1500 people will die, but R0 is way less than 1 and it will fizzle out quickly, millions of lives saved.
IF YOU LET IT SPREAD, IT MUTATES and it will evolve immunity to the vaccine. UK is not safe from the liars on Fox News. You had your own newly evolved strain come up, and thankfully it still responds to the vaccine. Next time you might not be so lucky. Fox News can potentially keep it going, long enough to evolve new strains that are immune from the vaccine.
Also notice how the right wing press no longer pretends "evolution" is just a theory. Republicans couldn't wait to get their vaccine shots! It's pure politics, if they can keep the disease going, they can blame the people they killed with their lies on Biden as a political strategy to win the next election. They don't care about the people they kill with their lies.
If you don't see how much damage liars on Fox News and in the Republican media can do, can I remind you of mask rollout and social distancing. New Zealand did pandemic control, R0 fell to 0.4 and poof the virus burned itself out, and they were disease free.
Meanwhile in the US.
Masks don't work claims Laura Ingraham:
The cure is worse than the disease, says Fox News Scott Atlas, as he intentionally tries to spread the virus:
Social Distancing doesn't work says Fox News:
They managed to undermine simple public health measures that could eliminate the disease in a few weeks if done properly. Those 686,000 people didn't need to die, Fox News doesn't just help kill its own viewers, it's killing their relatives too.
686,000 = current projected US deaths by April 1st assuming aggressive rollout of the vaccine:
TV Liars spewing TV lies in order to intentionally spread a deadly disease to kill people for gain.
Procter & Gamble.
Some truith to that, except:
* not all the anti-vaxers will get COVID
* of those that do, some will spread it to (and eventually kill) others who can't get vaccinated
* of those that get COVID, many will survive (and will use that fact as "proof" that it's not a bad/real disease)
Please correct me if I am wrong but unless the vaccine gives sterilizing immunity people will still be able to be infected by the virus if they have been vaccinated. They themselves may not go on to develop serious health issues but will be able to pass it on. I was under the impression that the testing of the vaccine only shows people who get it are less liable to fall seriously ill but does not show they cannot pass it on.
Also, there may be some people who are, for legitimate reasons, unable to safely take the vaccine. Not to mention that a 95% effectiveness rate means there's still one out of every twenty vaccinated persons still at risk. You want the numbers as much in your favor as you can get them.
People rejecting the vaccine is good - funny even. It means they're selecting themselves out of the gene pool. Have the vaccine and enjoy watching the mayhem among those who don't.
That's not how it works. Getting vaccinated protects the person, sure, but the more important effect is when herd immunity is reached. Then the disease is unable to sustain itself in the population.
Herd immunity protects people who are at risk of serious effects from the disease. Young children, people with weak immune systems (cancer patients, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, organ transplants, etc), elderly, pregnant, or just in poor health (e.g. diabetes, COPD, malnourishment) — these are all at risk, and may not get the vaccine.
Even healthy people have a social responsibility to not spread disease.
Not for this vaccine. For the overwhelming majority of people infected, the effects are mild so they'll still be in the gene pool. It appears a great many of the fatalities are in people already past the age of procreation.
Mumps would be a good one though.
People rejecting the vaccine is good - funny even. It means they're selecting themselves out of the gene pool.
Ah, but you're presupposing a number of things there you can't take for granted...
1. The Vaccines *will* kill a percentage of the people who get them, either directly by a 1 in X reaction to the things, or indirectly via some untowards interaction with other medications they're taking...There *are* reasons why the Drugs companies wanted their 'get out of jail free' cards here.
2. The Vaccines are *not* 100% effective, some of the Vaccinated *will* catch the virus, statistically, some of them *will* die.
In case 1, thinking they're saving themselves by taking the Vaccine, some unlucky people will, as you put it, remove themselves from the gene pool.
3. The people who refuse vaccination?, Sorry, but humanity has muddled through worse pandemics without the help of vaccines, you might find some of them amongst your ancestors... anyhoo, in this case you'll only rid the gene pool of approx between 0.4% to 15% of the refuseniks (depending on average ages...and not factoring in long term effects)
Of course, the Vaccines aren't really about individual survival, it's that of the herd, and the devil on my shoulder is muttering things about the merits of unvaccinated survivors to the future health of the herd over those who required vaccines to survive it..
11 thumbs down at the time of this addendum, eh?, must try harder...
Point 1. Perfectly valid and truthful, anyone care to dispute it?
Point 2. Again, perfectly valid and truthful...in fact, here's a link which partially illustrates this point (was the only original reason for revisiting this).
Point 3. Again, perfectly valid, mass vaccination has only been around since the 1800's, humanity, as a group, managed somehow to muddle along in one form or another for several million years of being exposed to various nasties beforehand. If you're alive, reading this, and think 'we won't survive this without mass vaccination', I hate to break this to you, but you're the (current) end product of a long chain of ancestors, most of whom weren't vaccinated...I won't say it was all sunshine and flowers for them, it wasn't, that's sort of the point.
No known plague/pandemic has ever managed (so far) to wipe out more than a maximum of 60% of the infected populations..
Individuals?, luck of the 'gene pool', the survival of the fittest.
Cultures/Societies?, thats a trickier one, the only constant is that if they do, they're never the same afterwards.
Maybe it was the last parting paragraph that annoyed you all.
Sorry, but I was of the impression that the OP I responded to, by the comment '..funny even. It means they're selecting themselves out of the gene pool.' was implying that it was somehow a good, or at least funny thing if by refusing the vaccine they'd all die...apologies, let's get into the spirit of the thing, 'select themselves out of the gene pool'.
This sort of shit does get that old devil going within me...so, as it *won't* kill them all, I point out that any human that survives being exposed to this without the aid of a vaccine is, again by the old survival of the fittest thing, better for our future collective 'gene pool' than those who were vaccinated.
The snide implied 'we're superior' behind the '..selecting themselves out of the gene pool.' bit annoyed me, so I returned the favour by implying the vaccinated, 'selecting themselves into the gene pool', weaken it with their inferior 'untested' genes.
For the record, had the bloody bug back in March, caught it from someone bringing it back from Italy, so technically (from what I can gather) I've currently a degree of immunity, but, based on what I've read on the alpha testing, I've no intention of even contemplating having either of these vaccines before a goodly number of you beta testers out there have had them and the results processed...I can wait a bit, current degree of immunity, remember...and if you think that I'm somehow an anti-vaxxer, I'd then invite you to look at my collection of vaccination scars...well, the ones on the arms, anyway.
"11 thumbs down at the time of this addendum, eh?, must try harder..."
Ypu seem proud of the fact that you are talking bollocks.
Yes, vaccines will "kill" a percentage of those who take it - an absolutely miniscule percentage but in purely mathematical terms its a percentage. The virus will also kill a percentage of those infected - around 2%, which in a population of about 65 million people, for example, would be around 1.3 million people.
Yes, humanity has survived similar and worse plagues in the past, and will no doubt do so again - I fail to see how this is in any way relevant. My grandparents survived the Spanish flu, millions of people did not, I'm quite willing to bet that had a vaccine been available they would have jumped at the chance.
You're happy to moan about the "superiority" of those commenting, and indeed some of the comments are a little crass, but yours are as bad or worse.
Fewer than 5 million Americans watch Fox News, according to Nielsen. You're going to have to find someone else to blame for the other 48%.
And whatever they plan about the next election, the pandemic has already cost them the last election. If that was deliberate, then it's backfired hugely. Unless it was a plan by the Republican establishment to get rid of Trump, of course. Almost like... a conspiracy?
But let's pick up one point from the mish-mash.
If we take 90% to achieve herd immunity and only 60% or the original population are immunised what happens? The virus keeps spreading among the rest until herd immunity is achieved.
At one extreme that means that 30% of the original population get infected with no deaths but in practice the actual symptoms will range between zero and life-changing. If you're in the non-vax population you have to hope you're lucky enough to be in the remaining 10% or whatever proportion of the infected with negligible symptoms.
At the other extreme nobody else gets immunity and the infection stops when 60% of the original population is now 90% of the new - in other words 2/3 of the original population has been killed. To be a surviving non-vaxer in this scenario you have to belong to the lucky 6.7% of the original population who survive.
You can run these extremes with whatever other percentages you think apply.
In truth the actual scenario will be somewhere between the two extremes but if you're a non-vaxer and want to survive and do so without life-changing consequences you have to face the classic question: "Do ya feel lucky, punk?".
"The virus keeps spreading among the rest until herd immunity is achieved."
Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that (I used to work in this particular field of science).
It would if once you were immune, you stayed immune. But since you can get infected again later on - anywhere from a few months plus has already been proven - it's a continuous cycle. You'd have the same problem every year (or whenever the vaccine wears off), and the risk would always be amplified by those who refused to be vaccinated at all.
We also don't have (enough) data yet on how ill people get who catch it even though they've been vaccinated.
Additional to this is the fact that COVID appears to leave collateral damage in many who survive it, thus putting them into the 'at risk' groups, even though they weren't before. Decreased lung function and possible nerve damage, for example.
The anti-vaxxers are a real problem.
That's always a concern, but mutations happen all the time and there's no real evidence of such dramatic changes trashing the vaccine. It COULD happen, but it is unlikely.
Just like the flu vaccine, minor tweaks would address the changes each year.
Otherwise, we're f--k-d big time.
Problem with your arguments here....
There are already over 21 million US citizens infected since tis began * CDC source
The highest percentage of infection is actually California - perhaps the most compliant State in the Union - and the one with the LEAST republicans by percentage.. current numbers are 2.1 million, as of today.
So, the argument that its republicans is frankly boring for the rest of us.
On vaccinations - the first in the State in California are Healthcare workers - and uptake there is less than 50% of those offered. Again - primarily a Democrat demographic. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/many-frontline-workers-refuse-covid-19-vaccines-distribution-rollout-struggles-n1252617
(note for the Fox ranter this is NBC)
Please, stop spouting divisive red/blue crap - its more subtle than that. VERY few informed people want to take a drug which is essentially untested. Except ravers who arent offered the vaccine
Actually, no - forgot the link only
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days - this is updated weekly.
Hover over any state.
Totals are published. Your stat was infections per 100,000, mine was total. North Dakota only has a tiny population - indeed the numbers of people living is ND only 780K - its meanigless to statistically compare California percentages to ND as they have such big differences in population, weather, business types etc,,, You have to look at the real numbers., which are 20 million infected California vs 93 K in ND
Even if you did consider it valid - over the last week, Cali has 3 times the rate of spred than ND now
California just crossed 2.5 million confirmed cases last night, and the US as a whole 21 million. Note that these are both cumulative, and includes folks who have recovered.
The SF Chronicle has kept this page up to date since March.
The best over-all US stats page I've seen yet is here. (CA-only version).
I have real difficulty with regard to the normalized figures and people who don't understand statistics and maths.
I few weeks ago, I was trying to explain to my wife what the 'per 100,000' figure means, and she kept saying that the region we're living in doesn't have 100,000 people in it, so how could they count it, so it must be wrong or a guess.
I tried explaining by using a bad eggs in a box example, something that I thought she might understand, being a largely practical person, but it did not sink in and I just gave up.
I'm sure that a lot of people are like this, and just glaze over when the numbers are published, and that the politicians just assume that big is either good or bad, depending on what they are pushing, and exactly what the number mean doesn't matter.
New Zealand did pandemic control, R0 fell to 0.4 and poof the virus burned itself out, and they were disease free.
To be fair, New Zealand also benefits from being on the way to nowhere - at the end of the line so to speak.
The virus is also suppressed in the UK Scilly Isles (between 0 and 2 cases)
"...and here is the component you have been blathering on about. See! It is ever so slightly bigger than can conceivably be administered through one of your orifices let alone an hypodermic needle"
"Yeah, but where's the miniaturised version?"
"Err, the chips in here are about as small as they can be. This is as miniature as it gets"
"I don't believe you. Chappie10 has all the details on his blog"
"Yeah, about Chappie10, seems he isn't the man you believe lives in New York and has a post doctorate in applied physics, but a troll by the name of Sergei, who avoided the Siberian salt mines by agreeing to sit in front of a Kremlin laptop and dish out crap to fuckwits like yourself"
"I'm no fuckwit"
"I'm sorry, but NASA used Galileo to track you, and I think these pictures prove beyond all doubt. You're a fuckwit"
"NASA tracks people?"
"Not everyone. Just the President of the United States"
It really is a lesson in futility. No matter what you say, no matter what proof you bring to the table, they will always believe the world is lying to them, and that the fat guy sat in his basement poring over his next expose is the only one telling it how it is.
There's a little glimmer of hope, that Trump has spent his time getting the nut jobs to expose themselves, so security forces can then round them up and compost them back into the soil, where some good might come of them.
This is a very obvious "false flag" disclosure deliberately designed to be blatently untrue in order to discredit those who are warning us of the terrible truth about the mind-control vaccine due to be delivered via 5G. The *real* chip is based upon quantum entanglement and anchors itself to your brain neurons using a strong titanium blockchain. The schematic can be found only in the 42nd dimension (second floor, left at the end of the corridor, ask for Schrodinger).
One can't help but wonder where the input / output jacks and knobs will be placed when these are installed in humans. Because the knobs are really "how they control you."
I'm not personally a fan of the Metal Zone; it's harsh, buzzy, overly loud, and generally unpleasant to listen to. However, that's a pretty apt description of 5G anti-vaxx conspiracy types, so I can see why they chose it. Pity that Boss pedals are not true bypass.
Well I'm sick and tired of hearing 'bout the world and it's hang ups
Gonna get myself together, take a ride downtown
Gotta see my Rock'n'Roll doctor
Gotta see my Rock'n'Roll doctor
Gotta see my Rock'n'Roll doctor
Gotta see him, see him today
He's gonna blow me away
Anti-vax theories are nature's way of removing the gullible from the gene pool.
This doesn't much affect individual reproductive success. It does affect society. So, I propose that "Anti-vax theories are nature's way of destroying societies that don't value critical thinking."
People who believe in anti-vax conspiracies are not necessarily gullible in other ways. I know some very smart and canny people who believe that vaccines are mind-control. And otherwise reasonable people who understand how vaccines work, but believe that Covid is a false-flag exercise by "the government."
There's not such a bright line between "them" and "us."
....chips don't have schematics ("circuit diagrams") in the generally accepted sense. Bits of them might have equivalent circuits.
(The pet 'chip', the one used to identify lost cats and the like, is actually a small circuit that includes a coil, an IC and one or two other parts, the whole thing being enscapulated in a glass or silicone container. Its schematic would be uninteresting.)
....chips don't have schematics ("circuit diagrams") in the generally accepted sense.
Look up the datasheet on a 74x00, a 741 or a 555, and you'll find the actual schematic on one of the first pages. Even the Intel 4004 is published in full. With more complex chips what you will find in publicly available docs will mostly be block diagrams as the full schematic will be too unwieldy and impenetrable for everyday design use, but there will be partial schematics of input and output circuits, or a circuit equivalent. Still, every chip designer would have the full schematic for each of their chips, including the silicon layout.
The Internet was a mistake. In bygone days, village idiots were isolated in their respective villages, and the relative normalcy of their neighbors kept them in check. Today, the village idiots are one giant network of millions of village idiots, who can now mobilize as a united front, the result of which is that we're all pretty much screwed.
The XKCD examples quoted above are close, but I think that this was first forseen by the most excellent William "Bill" S. Preston Esq.
and Ted "Theodore" Logan:
Gates gave rock and roll to you, gave rock and roll to you
Put it in the veins of everyone
Do you know what you want? You don't know for sure
You don't feel right, you can't find a cure...
With apologies to Russ Ballard