back to article Dutch officials say Donald Trump really did protect his Twitter account with MAGA2020! password

Dutch prosecutors have confirmed what many already suspected about President Donald Trump: that he’s an idiot. At least when it comes to choosing passwords. Back in October, Dutch citizen Victor Gevers claimed to have accessed the President’s Twitter account, @realdonaldtrump, with the password MAGA2020! It was discovered …

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    1. Danny 5

      He did, though you could argue that his choice of content to comment was a bit childish. If you go through the proper channels to notify all parties involved and nobody acts on it, you are ethically allowed to use the account to prove you have indeed gained access to it. It was crude, but not unethical.

  2. trevorde Silver badge

    Insanely high IQ

    “Nobody gets hacked. To get hacked, you need somebody with 197 IQ and he needs about 15% of your password”

    https://www.verdict.co.uk/trump-nobody-gets-hacked/

    1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

      Re: Insanely high IQ

      In this case, Gevers had 100% of the password. After he guessed it, that is.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Insanely high IQ

        passwords for humans are ultimately inscure because of the humans

        If you let the user make their own password then either it can be guessed or eventually they will reuse portions or all, or they will have some reused nmemonic/algorythm that looks individual and secure but is unltimately guessable once enough data it collected

        As the saying goes if two people must keep a secret one needs to be dead

  3. Christoph

    The combination on his luggage is 1 2 3 4 5

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge
      Joke

      You sure it's that complicated? Sure it's not 0 0 0 0 0 ?

      1. theblackhand

        Isn't it a bit risky using you net worth as your lugguage combination?

      2. iron Silver badge

        If it's good enough for the nuke launch codes it's good enough for the Twit-in-Chief's account.

        1. G.Y.

          00000000

          the PAL code on US nuclear bombs was 00000000 , at least for a long time

      3. Xalran
        Devil

        Luggage doesn't need any combination. It will only open for it's true master. ( and eat the rest )

        1. Kane Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          "Luggage doesn't need any combination. It will only open for it's true master. ( and eat the rest )"

          **SNAP**

    2. Chris G Silver badge

      He's smarter than that, it's 54321!

      1. Slef

        I think you are giving him more credit than he is due! He does not have that level of intellect!

      2. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
        Coat

        I've never seen luggage with a 6-digit lock, let alone including punctuation!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          It isn't 6 digits, its 4... the 1! means "Not 1" i.e. ignore the last digit.

          So the code is 5432 :-)

          1. MudFever

            Surely it is 1-1-1-1 or win-win-win-win, 'cos Trump's a winner, a big winner, in fact he's the bigliest big winner!

            1. Olafthemighty

              Winner?

              Wiener, surely?

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: Winner?

                Really? Why do you have to involve me in this.

                Shirley.

        2. Jc (the real one)

          I still have an old briefcase (remember them?) that has a 3 digit code for each catch, so a 6 digit code in all

          Jc

          1. gerdesj Silver badge
            Childcatcher

            "that has a 3 digit code for each catch, so a 6 digit code in all"

            2 x 1,000 != 1,000,000. It took about 5-20 mins to crack a four digit combi lock when I searched t'webs and tried the method I found to get in a cutlery canteen. I'm sure an expert would be much faster. Three digits - lol.

            1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

              Digital locks

              I once timed myself at 20 minutes to go through all possible combinations on a three digit combination lock, though I did get a blister on my thumb :o(

              Assuming that the combinations are different, two three digit combination locks would, therefore, on average take me about 20 minutes.

              1. David Hicklin

                Re: Digital locks

                "Assuming that the combinations are different, two three digit combination locks would, therefore, on average take me about 20 minutes."

                or just drop hard on 1 corner and it will obligingly open .........

                1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

                  Re: Digital locks

                  Ah, yes, of course, the Peter Ustinov technique from 'We're no Angels' (including a particularly effective comedic performance from a Mr H Bogart, IIRC).

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Coat

        Why would he lock his own luggage? That's what flunkies were for when he wasn't president.

        Now he is, there is no need to lock it since the Secret Service guard his luggage closely in case someone sticks a bomb in it - and they protect former presidents (and their luggage) indefinitely after they have left office.

        I know, there is always some bastard who ruins to a good joke (and it is a good joke). I'll get my anorak.

        1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

          Gators!

          Trump will be off to Florida - now the Secret Service will have to watchout for hungry gators as well

          1. Martin Silver badge
            Happy

            Re: Gators!

            Trump will be off to Florida - now the Secret Service will have to watchout for hungry gators as well.

            Here, gator! Here, gator! I've got a nice snack for you!

            1. Just An Engineer

              Re: Gators!

              Actually even his neighbors don't want him there.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-mar-a-lago-neighbors-dispute/2020/12/15/bc2ce1d0-3ed4-11eb-9453-fc36ba051781_story.html

              1. Robert Halloran

                Re: Gators!

                a) I'm at the other end of the state (300 mi/450 km) from him and I don't want him here...

                b) I learned after moving here 30 years back that any open freshwater bigger than a kiddie pool can be presumed to hold gators, and to never let your small pets or toddlers anywhere near waters' edge as a result. The tragic case of the child killed at Disney walking the lakefront with her parents comes to mind.

                1. julian.smith
                  Pirate

                  Re: Gators!

                  Go Gators!!!

            2. zuckzuckgo Bronze badge

              Re: Gators!

              >I've got a nice snack for you!

              Bit of a mouthful actually.

              1. Rich 11 Silver badge

                Re: Gators!

                Toxic around the edges and with a venally venomous centre.

            3. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Gators!

              It often crossed my mind how much it must suck to be on Trump's Secret Service detail. Fancy being expected to literally take a bullet for the guy.

              1. Eclectic Man Silver badge
                Joke

                Re: Gators!

                If you think it is bad now, wait til he's in prison. Being on the Secret Service Presidential Protection detail in San Quentin will be no laughing matter. Although at least his clothes will go with his complexion.

                1. Rich 11 Silver badge

                  Re: Gators!

                  Trump won't end up in San Quentin. When his lawyers finally persuade him he has no choice but to take a deal they'll make sure he gets sent to one of those cushy jails for rich people, which are basically a country club without the table service and where the spikes on the perimeter fence point in rather than out. The most serious threat he'll face from the other inmates will be only being able to cheat on a 9-hole course rather than an 18-hole one.

                  1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

                    Re: Gators!

                    @ Rich 11: "Trump won't end up in San Quentin. When his lawyers finally persuade him he has no choice but to take a deal they'll make sure he gets sent to one of those cushy jails for rich people, which are basically a country club without the table service and where the spikes on the perimeter fence point in rather than out."

                    I can dream can't I?

                    Maybe he'll plead insanity or mental incompetence? ("Nurse Ratched! Time for his medication".)

                2. DJO Silver badge

                  Re: Gators!

                  As he was C-in-C he should be considered military so Fort Leavenworth would be appropriate, already a fair amount of security there so an extra protection detail would not be needed - a great saving of taxpayers money.

          2. Toni the terrible

            Re: Gators!

            and anacondas these days

        2. JetSetJim Silver badge

          If Trump is convicted of the various offences alleged, does that mean the Secret Service go to jail, too?

        3. Avatar of They
          Thumb Up

          Assuming he wants it, he can deny it because if he accepts it they have some control on his life and routine.

          Not that anyone would want to come looking for him after he isn't president for all the nice things he did.

      4. TeeCee Gold badge

        Aha! You must be right as, every time he unlocks it, you can see his lips moving as he hums along to Manfred Mann.

        1. navidier

          @TeeCee

          Ah, I was thinking of that but I couldn't remember the band. This may also be apposite:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QN7kmOhBMw&ab_channel=SjemFM

          1. Eclectic Man Silver badge

            Don't you mean Tom Robinson Band's 2-4-6-8 Motorway?

    3. Ochib

      That's the same as my air-shield

    4. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

      That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life!

    5. Bogga

      That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life!

      That's the kinda thing an idiot would have on his luggage.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

    I really, really hope that's true.

    The idea that 70+ million bigots will suddenly go "We were wrong, he's an arsehole" is pretty unlikely.

    I expect Trump's sore loser antics to carry on for four years. At the end of that he may well get another shot. 300,000 dead and counting and still no negative reaction from his base. In fact, it's clearly not enough dead as his sick burst of lame duck federal executions shows.

    We're just lucky he's a fucking idiot. Anyone with an ounce of nouse wouldn't have lost the election, and if they did they'd have used the lickspittles they installed in positions of power to cling on. We dodged a bullet but, judging by sleepy Joe's "let's all work together" bullshit, we haven't learned anything.

    1. Piro Silver badge

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      And forgetful creepy Biden, who voted through actual racist legislation and was VP for 8 years, in which time groups like BLM formed.. who takes money from China, he's so much better. His running mate who has sent innocent people to prison, she's also a role model. Got it.

      Branding all Trump voters as bigots is the most stupid thing I've read so far today, but there're plenty of hours left.

      1. Adelio Silver badge

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Not sure Biden is in the same Universe as Mr Trumpton. Never have I seem a more egotistical less presidential person than Donald Trump.

        1. julian.smith
          Mushroom

          Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          Donald Trump is the perfect metaphor for the United! States of America.

          You can't make this stuff up.

      2. knelmes

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Yes. He's not very good. But soooo much better.

      3. IGotOut Silver badge

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        "And forgetful creepy Biden, who voted through actual racist legislation..."

        Ge did the decent thing and apologised for that and is running to rectify it.

        As for forgetful? Are we talking about Trump? The one who denies he says or writes things despite it being recorded?

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        "Branding all Trump voters as bigots is the most stupid thing I've read so far today, but there're plenty of hours left."

        If you can sit through a Trump monologue (or interview although I suspect you may consider those "biased against Trump" when people ask him questions) and come to the conclusion that Mr Trump is honest, trustworthy, is running his administration well and has no negative personality traits that are impacting his ability to run the country, then I guess you're able to see something that the vast majority of the Western world is unable to see.

        In 2016, the US elected a liar and con-artist to run their country. A large percentage are still unwilling to admit that mistake.

        Perhaps the things you're reading aren't stupid and the stupidity lays with the reader?

      5. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Branding all Trump voters as bigots is the most stupid thing

        Really? Because "owning the libs" is a sensible, well thought out policy?

        Fuck off.

      6. Charlie Clark Silver badge
        Stop

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Seems you didn't get to read to the end of the post.

        As for taking money, I can't remember a US president who wasn't beholden to some interest or other.

        1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

          Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          I'd be surprised if most trumpies can read to the end of a sentence.

      7. Anonymous Coward
        Meh

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        And forgetful creepy Biden, who voted through actual racist legislation and was VP for 8 years, in which time groups like BLM formed.. who takes money from China, he's so much better.

        And in other news, a supporter of a pitch black pot accuses the kettle of having some grey bits.

        1. Screwed
          Angel

          Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          I think it's Rudy who has the grey bits. You know, the bits the dye (or whatever it was) dripped from?

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

            Bile?

      8. martinusher Silver badge

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        >Branding all Trump voters as bigots is the most stupid thing I've read so far today

        I know quite a lot of them, they're my demographic (old white geezers). I don't brand them as 'bigots' but they sure are gullible. Because I'm that demographic I got bombarded with the robocalls ("Hi, I'm Donald Trump....") and adverts, those fake push polls, and if that material is anything to go by they're a pretty dumb bunch. (Sorry if you are one of them....but honestly....do you ever *listen* to what's being said?)

        The good news is that there are a significant number of old-school Republicans outt here who can't stand him.. They tend to be the more educated sorts, people I can have constructive discussions with despite our political differences. They might help to build a new Republcian party -- the mindset isn't going anyplace, unfortuantely, but the party definitely needs to receede from its flirtations with fascism.

        There's a lot of ingrained racism in the US. Still. Open racism is in our recent history even in supposedly progressive states such as California. We can't do much about our past but we certainly owe it to the present and future not to keep this particular flame alive. Unfortunately the GoP has been prone to do this (anyone remember Willie Horton?) and there's no signs of it letting up just yet. So racism coupled with an insatiable need to poke their legislative noses into other peoples' private business gets the appelation 'bigot'. Sorry.

      9. Unicornpiss
        Meh

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        I didn't like either candidate, but I'll say that Biden can at least put together a sentence, can go without lying for minutes at a time, and actually seems to have a functioning conscience and empathy, unlike in Trump where these are purely vestigial organs. I feel like I scraped something off my shoe the other day that I would rather see elected to office than another 4 years of our idiot in chief.

        Anything that Biden may have done in his past or his offspring may have done is like a jaywalking charge compared to the last 4 years of bad judgement, callous disregard for human rights, racism, likely felonies, and perhaps even treason that we've suffered through with Trump. I don't think everyone that voted for Trump is an idiot, but I utterly fail to understand what they see in him.

        1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

          Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          I don't think everyone that voted for Trump is an idiot, but I utterly fail to understand what they see in him.

          Correct, calling them idiots is an insult to every true idiot.

      10. ChrisBedford

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Branding all Trump voters as bigots is the most stupid thing I've read so far today, but there're plenty of hours left.

        You *have* to be a bigot to vote for Trump, or *staggeringly* stupid. There is no other way to excuse that sort of behaviour. The man is the worst example of humanity to emerge in world leadership since Pol Pot, and the least articulate, the most self-centred, the whiniest, and the stupidest.

    2. jason 7

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      Yeah can you imagine Trump's mental and physical health at nearly 80 after 4 years of brooding and comfort eating?

      It won't be good. He'll most likely have another stroke well before then.

      In the meantime my post from a couple of months ago saying that Biden etc. will do f*ck all for the average American will have also come true.

      Jimmy Dore for Pushing AOC for a vote on M4A!!!!! Go Jimmy!!!

      1. jason 7

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Ahhh so even after seeing Biden's corporate lobbyist status quo cabinet picks, some Dem folks are still in denial that they will get nothing over over the next 4 years.

        Just look at AOC's current back peddling and gas lighting on why she won't support a vote on M4A as a taste of things to come.

        Yeah asking for healthcare during a pandemic is 'not the right time'. Jeez.

        They all get bought.

        1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

          Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          Pedalling.

          1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

            Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

            I suspect in politics a lot of peddling leads to back pedalling

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        The thing with the USA is that it isn't great, but surely big.

    3. DJO Silver badge

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      The idea that 70+ million bigots will suddenly go "We were wrong, he's an arsehole" is pretty unlikely.

      Absolutely, also they need to be incentivised.

      Trumps little tantrums over the election raised about $250m from that 70+m idiots and his legal fees were about $10m, the remaining $240m going straight into his pocket (metaphorically speaking, yes he's fat but pockets don't get that big).

      But that is just the beginning, he now has a list of the most gullible idiots in America and if he keeps spewing the same sort of incendiary crap, they'll keep giving. As long as he keeps out of prison he should be able to milk them for years.

      1. jason 7

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Yep it's a great grift.

        I saw all this coming back in 2015 when Newt Gingrich was challenged on some false crime BS he was spewing. He just smiled and said -

        "It's not what's true that is important! It's what I believe is true that is!"

        I knew we were all f*cked when I heard that.

      2. Ben Tasker Silver badge

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        > But that is just the beginning, he now has a list of the most gullible idiots in America and if he keeps spewing the same sort of incendiary crap, they'll keep giving

        Exactly the gravy train that Nigel Farage has jumped aboard in fact. Stir up hatred against $thing, launch party/campaign opposed to it and charge for membership - do very little in practice, but make lots of noise. Pocket lots of dosh.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      The idea that 70+ million bigots will suddenly go "We were wrong, he's an arsehole" is pretty unlikely.

      More likely it'll go like Bush. Over the next 4-8 years the famous Trump haters will start to say that he wasn't so bad and the ordinary people will either moderate their views of him or get pushed to the fringes.

      It sounds unthinkable now, but if you'd woken up from a coma since 2009 and seen a photo of Biden pinning a medal on Bush you'd have sworn blind it was a photoshop.

      Because it is unthinkable. It's just that it's also business as usual.

      Downvote if you have to. These are stressful times.

      1. ibagoalie

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        "More likely it'll go like Bush. Over the next 4-8 years the famous Trump haters will start to say that he wasn't so bad and the ordinary people will either moderate their views of him or get pushed to the fringes." Don't agree, unless someone WORSE than Trump gest selected. THAT is the only reason Bush haters changed their tune.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          Yup, that's exactly what people were saying in 2008. The only difference is that time has passed.

          If you doubt that this is cyclical then find the documentary "When AIDS was funny" about Reagan's administration.

    5. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Well he stuffed the Supreme Court with all the Republicans he could find and they shot him down anyway, so I'm not sure him being vastly more intelligent (twice of nothing is still not much) would make much of a difference.

      1. DS999 Silver badge

        If he'd had even an average IQ he would have realized that ignoring COVID and letting it rage would hurt the economy in the long run and hurt his election chances in November. He was handed an opportunity to act presidential and bring people together like Bush did after 9/11, but he stupidly used it a wedge and turned his cultists into anti-mask virus deniers because he doesn't know how to do anything but divide people.

        We're lucky he's such a moron.

        1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

          turned his cultists into anti-mask virus deniers

          Thus reducing their numbers, so some good has come from it.

          We're lucky he's such a moron.

          Please don't insult morons.

    6. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      @OP AC

      I've got bad news for you: Trump is like that crusty booger that you dug out of your nose one day; as you started extricating the thing, you realised that it had a long, sticky tail that reached down almost to your throat. Upon reaching the exit, you then yanked it in order to get a clear exit, but unfortunately you dropped it, with the result that it fell on your lower lip, with the sticky tail still attached to your nose.

      When you tried to blow it away in disgust, it landed on the back of your hand. Instintively reacting, you then tried to shake it off, only for it to land on your brand new pants. After gingerly prising it loose (in order to minimise the slimy residue on your pant-leg), you flicked it away.

      Unfortunately you lost track of its trajectory, so that its whereabouts were unknown and the safest resolution was to avoid the area for the next two weeks in order to allow it to dry out completely and become relatively harmless.

      I rather suspect that you will be stuck with him until he gets a clue, or the heat death of the universe arrives.

      My money is on the heat death of the universe winning this race.

      Disclaimer: This is not original - there was a Tintin book where they were stuck with a piece of sticky plaster that just would not go away, that inspired the disgusting piece above.

      1. Someone Else Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        @AC: Thanks! I needed a good chuckle. To you, my friend - - - ->

    7. DS999 Silver badge

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      We won't have to stop caring about him in a month, but luckily he's old, overweight and has a poor diet so hopefully won't be around much longer. Maybe the stress of dealing with all the court cases he'll face starting next year will be what does him in. We can only hope!

      What I hope is that the media stops reporting on his tweets and makes a decision to ignore him. They created the monster, they can slay him by ignoring him and denying him the attention he needs to survive.

      If he only hears himself talked about outside right wing media in relation to court cases but they ignore his tweets, rallies and so forth that will frustrate him to no end! I'm sure if they try he will make more and more outrageous tweets with crazy conspiracy theories about Biden and Harris drinking the blood of infants or something like that trying to get them to take the bait, they have to be smart and just report on actual news not a has been trying to make himself the news.

    8. Robert Halloran

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      While the Federal authorities may pass on the plethora of likely charges to avoid the appearance of political persecution, the state attorney in NY has been after Trump's companies for some years about taxable value of his properties there. He apparently quoted one number to the state tax authority and another larger number as collateral value for loans taken with Deutsche Bank shortly after.

      And the President's pardon power only applies to Federal crimes, not state-level.

      2024 may find him under house arrest if not doing the orange jumpsuit perpwalk.

    9. Piro Silver badge

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      I got a hell of a lot of hate for my comment, so I apologise for hurting any feelings. Just to be clear, I'm not saying Trump is the best choice. In fact, I think it's utterly messed up that we've come to the point where the two choices are Trump or Biden.

      I just think there an awful lot of people backing Biden just because they hate Trump, and they really don't know what Biden stands for, which, in my useless and awful opinion, is a bad way to approach an election.

      And yes, I did read to the end of the comment, where Biden was also painted in a bad light.

      If I were to make predictions about a Biden presidency, it will:

      a) quickly become a Kamala Harris presidency,

      b) be something far from what the voters wished for, and finally

      c) blame all issues as somehow being inherited from the Trump presidency

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        "c) blame all issues as somehow being inherited from the Trump presidency"

        That's a given in politics. All leaders blame everything on their predecessors! Here in the UK, Labour were blaming all their woes on the Tories, right up to the day they left office after being in power for 13 years.

      2. Lars Silver badge
        Happy

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        Some day you might grasp that in a two party system the choice tends to be slightly restricted.

        Regarding Trump and Biden there is no doubt who is the wrong end of the stick in an other binary world.

        I find it hard to consider Trump a Republican and it's as hard to accept the party as Republican also.

        It got all rotten the moment Trump stepped in or should one say, came down, such brave men and women in that party.

        For a more eloquent and neutral explanation of Trump I would recommend Noam Chomsky on Trump

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1gCzbQr2k

      3. Schultz
        Terminator

        Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

        a) Why anybody speculates about a "Kamala Harris presidency"? (History doesn't show any precedents for "figurehead" presidents in the US.)

        b) Is there anything inherently evil about Kamala Harris? Why the hate?

        1. Lars Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

          "Why the hate?".

          She is not even a proper African American?.

          1. ibagoalie

            Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

            What exactly is a 'proper African American'? Never knew there were rules that had to be followed.

            1. Lars Silver badge
              Thumb Down

              Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

              "What exactly is a 'proper African American'?".

              The far right-wing twats claimed Obama was even worse than an African-American as his mother was white and they have already expressed similar sicophobic opinions of Harris as her mother came from India.

              1. Sanguma

                Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

                The far right-wing twats claimed Obama was even worse than an African-American as his mother was white

                As far as I have been able to ascertain, the greater majority of African-Americans born as slaves during slavery were likewise "worse because their fathers were in so, so many cases, white ... brains and bigotry don't go together.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

          As a non-USAnian, I am surprised no one has responded yet. So here goes:

          a). It is reference to the VPOTUS being only 'only a heartbeat away from the Presidency'. Biden is somewhat elderly, as I am, and in four years he may deteriorate to the point where the VP may become in practice or reality the POTUS.

          There is an implication in these expressions, that Biden will have his strings pulled by Harris. Speaking from the right side of the Atlantic, I see litttle sign of it.

          b). In European originated societies there is something nasty in the woodpile, that is to a greater or lesser extent verbalised. To many in these societies she has three disadvantages, she is young and vigorous, she is not white and above all she is not a man.

          I have never posted as an AC, but this time I feel it is for the best.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

            I have never posted as an AC, but this time I feel it is for the best.

            Being right is not always the same as being popular.

          2. Lars Silver badge
            Coat

            Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

            @As a non-USAnian

            "In European originated societies ......".

            Yes but only in the USA, most European countries have or have had women presidents and prime ministers.

        3. A.P. Veening Silver badge

          Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

          Why anybody speculates about a "Kamala Harris presidency"? (History doesn't show any precedents for "figurehead" presidents in the US.)

          Not a figurehead president, but a lot of people expect Joe Biden to resign pretty quickly.

          1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

            Re: Can anyone explain for the non-USAsians:

            Can the downvoters please comment, I am just answering a question.

      4. Uffish

        Re: it's utterly messed up

        One: - the USA elected Trump. That was an utter mess-up.

        Two: - the USA didn't elect Trump for a second term. Not a mess-up.

        Three: - Biden defeated Trump. Not a mess-up, a pretty spectacular achievement in fact, given the state of American irrationality.

        Dear USA, congrats on your new President elect and try to stay sane in future.

    10. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      "The idea that 70+ million bigots will suddenly go "We were wrong, he's an arsehole" is pretty unlikely."

      Yes, because that would create too big a disturbance in The Farce.

    11. Danny 2 Silver badge

      Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      The idea that 70+ million bigots will suddenly go "We were wrong, he's an arsehole" is pretty unlikely.

      My uncle had a 'doo cot' - a pigeon loft - for his homing race pigeons. When he died my mum asked my cousins what happened to his pigeons. You can't rehome a homing pigeon once it's been conditioned. Even if you destroy their home they will always return to the same place. You just have to wait for them to die off.

      1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

        Re: less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        You can rehome homing pidgeons, but you can't let them fly free anymore*). You can still use the best for breeding though.

        *)Egg sitting females are sometimes excepted from this rule.

  5. Neil Barnes Silver badge

    no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

    Did anyone ever care?

    Does anyone ever care about anything ever written on twitter, beyond the twitterati making the original posts?

    Oooh, look, fifteen million people have looked at my twit, how wonderful I must be...

    1. alain williams Silver badge

      Re: no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      In a month time Trump will be Yesterday's News.

      I hope that it stays that way.

      1. chivo243 Silver badge
        Holmes

        Re: no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        I'm pretty sure most of the news agencies can't wait for Uncle Donnie to be out of the WH. They can stop printing in yellow fonts. (that's yellow journalism for you youngins)

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

        Fast forward two years, and if Uncle Donnie is healthy, and not in the slammer, he will start up the yellow press again. Hopefully people have learned not to listen.

        1. jason 7

          Re: no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          The news agencies and MSM will go into decline most likely. Trump has been news gold for them.

          As one American comedian said "Trump is like a scared horse loose in a children's hospital!"

          Ratings and advertising revenue is going to plummet. Lot of people going to lose jobs and the talent have to make do with lower contracts.

          It's their own fault really. It's a lot of people's fault.

    2. Triggerfish

      Re: no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

      my twit or a twit?

      1. Adelio Silver badge

        Re: no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

        i have always refered to Twitter as Twatter, becuase that is what i think of it

        1. andy k O'Croydon

          Re: no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again

          People forget the original meaning of the word twitter, as defined in Roger's Profanisaurus. However, your definition lends itself nicely to referring to the most popular social media channels collectively as twatface.

  6. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Skeptical it would have been that easy to get into such an influential and safeguarded Twitter account ... everyone refused to accept it had happened."

    Who's this "everyone"? It was entirely believable.

  7. PerlyKing Silver badge
    Happy

    Passive aggressive?

    A Twitter spokesperson said:

    We proactively implemented account security measures for a designated group of high-profile, election-related Twitter accounts in the United States, including federal branches of government.

    (Emphasis added)

    Trump famously uses his personal Twitter account instead of the official US presidential one. Is this Twitter sort of sticking to their own rules and "accidentally" not securing a personal account?

    Also, I find it hard to believe that he previously used yourefired. Although I would have no trouble with yourfired ;-)

    1. AndrewB57

      Re: Passive aggressive?

      The additional 'e' was Dear Leader's attempt at security - no-one would EVER guess a randomly inserted letter eh?

      1. ibagoalie

        Re: Passive aggressive?

        More likely it's because Trump can't spell.

  8. Binraider Silver badge

    Now we know why the ICBM's were set to 00000000?

  9. Franco Silver badge

    Leaving aside the orange one's idiocy, why the hell are Twitter not flagging up that suddenly a US registered account got a login from the Netherlands?

    I know Trump would ignore it, but it would be a much better look for Twitter if they were flagging suspicious logins and could blame this on a stupid user

    1. MCMLXV

      a US registered account got a login from the Netherlands

      Could Gevers perhaps have used Tor with an exit node in the US?

    2. Gerhard den Hollander

      Because people (used to) travel ?

      Because people use a VPN ?

      e.g.: while working from home I need to connect to the work network through a VPN.

      Because f this the internet thinks I'm in France (which leads to many advertisements showing up in French) when I disconnect I'm in the netherlands (which leads to most advertisements being in English )

      The VPN is soemtimes a bit flakey , which means that in the span of an hour Twitter would see me connecting from just south of Paris then 10mins later from north of the dutch-belgian border, than back to France

      For extra git & shiggles I could enable opera's privacy mode VPN which bounces me around the world at random

      1. Franco Silver badge

        Office 365 (for example) flags quick changes of ASN by a user as suspicious, and if you use a web browser like Opera with a builtin VPN or a service like Hola the ASNs used by those services are blocked by many websites for obvious reasons.

        I'm not defending the orange one, and I'm sure the hacker did use some sort of masking of his real internet address, but Twitter need to do a much better job on suspicious activity. It's not like celebrity hacks are a new thing, imagine what someone malicious could have tweeted from that account and the chaos they could have caused.

        1. mark l 2 Silver badge

          Should Twitter treat his personal account any differently than they do for any other person account just because of who he is?

          Yeah maybe they mandate that passwords have to have a 8+ characters and contains letters, numbers and extended characters. Which the password he chose would have passed those checks.

          But I am sure that the president has lots of advisers who would have told him how to secure it with 2FA and use strong passwords not easily guessable. But clearly he chose to ignore that advise, as he knows best.

          1. Franco Silver badge

            "Should Twitter treat his personal account any differently than they do for any other person account just because of who he is?"

            Yes, they already do. In the name of "public interest" his account has been more leniently policed than it would have been when he has posted demonstrably false information.

            Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/a-trump-loss-means-end-of-twitter-special-treatment

        2. mrbawsaq

          Someone malicious like Donald Trump?

  10. disgruntled yank Silver badge

    I see what's wrong

    Capital letters, yes. Numbers, yes. Non-alphanumeric, yes. But there's no lower-case letter. Surely he'll know better next time.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I see what's wrong

      How can you make America great again with lower case letters?

    2. Loyal Commenter Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: I see what's wrong

      Ah, you see, Trump apparently doesn't understand the meaning of Shift. Yes, even when voted out.

      Okay okay, my coat's already on...

  11. Lars Silver badge
    Happy

    Not just Trump out

    Lets remember that it's more than just Trump, it's the whole cabinet. And the new looks quite sound.

    Some optimism please.

    1. jason 7

      Re: Not just Trump out

      Yeah looks sound for Wall St and the likes of Amazon, Lockheed and Raytheon but the average American...nope.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Not just Trump out

        How is a rise in the minimum wage in any way bad for the average American?

        Or the desire to create new jobs at home, the green agenda, and the new jobs that both create?

        Just look at regeneration schemes around the world you'll soon catch on that looking backwards is not a way to re-invent the US economy.

        I actually agree with the protectionist elements of Republican policies; but let's be honest US borders the ship has LONG since sailed and you aren't chucking out all those people now. And, apart from the Native Americans; let's face it, you are ALL sons and daughters of immigrants yourselves... Not that many generations removed at that.

        Unchecked capitalism is bad for Joe average, and fully state regulated planned economies are also bad for Joe average. Moderation is key; backed by education.

        AC because fully expect flame in response; by another DT nobbled lunatic.

        1. jason 7

          Re: Not just Trump out

          Well just you wont get much of the later part of your post. Especially education.

          You wont get much of anything. Minimum wage is still MINIMUM wage. It's not a living wage, folks will still be working three jobs and 18 hours a day to get by...if they can.

          Pelosi is still not on board with helping folks during the pandemic, yet gladly signed off trillions for the corporations.

          Green new deal...that will get watered down and down as the lobby cheques from the fossil fuel industry come wafting across Biden's desk.

          Nothing is going to change. The average American is still going to get screwed while still having to pay for it all.

          I don't even live in the US but can see it. But then all I have to do is sit back, watch it all come to pass and say "told you so!"

          1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

            Re: Not just Trump out

            You wont get much of anything. Minimum wage is still MINIMUM wage. It's not a living wage, folks will still be working three jobs and 18 hours a day to get by...if they can.

            That really depends on the "minimum wage", in most of Europe the legal minimum wage allows one to live with an acceptable (if still on the frugal side) lifestyle on an ordinary 40 hours per week salary.

        2. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

          Re: Not just Trump out

          I agree with most of what you wrote there, but this nugget: "Moderation is key; backed by education" isn't quite right. You can be as educated as you like, but if you start off poor, unregulated free-market economics leads to you staying that way. The key to that moderation is regulation. That doesn't mean a command economy, but it does mean such things as legislation to prevent monopoly abuse, which I believe is not strong enough, because it doesn't do anything to limit predatory capitalism whereby large corporations (your Alphabets, Amazons, et al) have free rein to absorb smaller companies, or straight-up outcompete them by economies of scale. This is good for those predatory organisations, but not for anyone else.

      2. iron Silver badge

        Re: Not just Trump out

        How is the COVID stimulus package from Trump and the GOP doing for the average American? Oh it never happened? But they promised and you voted for them and now you've lost your house. Well at least you can sell your kids for medical research so you can afford bullets.

    2. IGotOut Silver badge

      Re: Not just Trump out

      I agree, Trump is a stupid, racist, narcissistic prick.

      Pence is just a racist prick.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Not just Trump out

        "Pence is just a racist prick."

        You just going to give him a pass on his idea of Christianity? i.e. letting the poor, the suffering and the weak die.

        Yes Pence is happy to protect unwanted children. At least up until they're born - then they can die because healthcare, shelter, food and water cost money.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Not just Trump out

          I had the misfortune of being in Iceland the day Pence was there (he had idiotic levels of security, including snipers on the roof in a country where they don't even have armed police, and the unannounced nature of his visit almost caused us to miss the coach to our very expensive tour booking).

          Pence is renowned for his homophobia, and it is to the credit of the Icelandic delegation that every single one of them wore a rainbow wristband, and the building opposite flew rainbow flags on that day. Gotta love that Nordic sense of humour.

          1. First Light Silver badge

            Re: Not just Trump out

            Former Irish Taoiseach (PM) Leo Varadkar can be seen grinning while he and his partner stand with Pence and Pence's "mother" on St Paddy's Day last year. Pence had to suck it up!

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/14/mike-pence-ireland-pm-leo-varadkar-meeting-openly-gay-irish-pm-partner-video

        2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: Not just Trump out

          "Yes Pence is happy to protect unwanted children. At least up until they're born - then they can die because healthcare, shelter, food and water cost money."

          Well, Jesus did say "Suffer the children". What? There was more to the sentence?

      2. First Light Silver badge

        Re: Not just Trump out

        Don't forget his massive misogyny and "mother" issues.

  12. Winkypop Silver badge
    Happy

    Idiot-Boy, AKA the human headline will recede

    And glory be to $Deity for that!

  13. Martin Summers Silver badge

    I thought Twitters' rules for verified accounts were that two factor verification had to be set up on them. Is it possible that on dealing with said two factor authentication, Trump ordered it be turned off because it was annoying and inconvenient? He wouldn't be the first pensioner I've dealt with who found account security an inconvenience and voiced their anger at it. Sometimes you just have to let them make their own mistakes no matter the consequences and I guess his staff probably just wanted a quiet life. He's probably still shouted at some poor sod who deals with this sort of thing for him, whilst grudgingly accepting it has to be switched on now.

  14. Loyal Commenter Silver badge
    Trollface

    Here, FTFY

    It’s worth noting there is less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again Trump is no longer a "special person" and is permanently banned from Twitter for propagating hate speech.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Here, FTFY

      It's probably better that he's not banned sadly. Otherwise his venom will be spewed in some alt right echo chamber and be invisible. As much as I despise the exposure he's given, at least the word can see what prick he is.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Here, FTFY

        Otherwise his venom will be spewed in some alt right echo chamber and be invisible.

        It's already up and running. When F*B* fact-checked and banned to worst of them, they started a rival social media, called Parler. It was supposed to be the French word for "to speak", but since these are, after all, the dimmest bulbs in the USA, it is pronounced "PAR-ler, like the room one received visitors in Victorian times. It is the toxic swamp one imagines, with lots of threats the FBI will be, I hope, looking into.

        1. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

          Re: Here, FTFY

          Indeed, when idiots who operate at the fringes of the law (when it comes to hate speech and violence) congregate, all this does is keep their echo-chamber away from susceptible innocents, and has the convenient side-effect of making it easier for law enforcement to know where to look.

          They won't be recruiting the young-and-naïve on FB or Twitter if they're banned there, so the "new blood" would have to go seeking them out.

  15. Jeroentje
    Alert

    Lost in translation

    > Dutch prosecutors have confirmed what many already suspected about President Donald Trump: that he’s an idiot. At least when it comes to choosing passwords.

    I'm not a professional translator, but as a Dutch person I think I can give some insight on details that might've been lost in translation on first paragraph in this article.

    The public prosecutor's office (Openbaar Ministerie) were treating this case -as if- he actually did log into Trump's Twitter account.

    Gevers insisted that he had evidence, yet Twitter and the White House deny this claim, stating that there were no logs of these login attempts.

    After the investigation of Team High Tech Crime of the Dutch police, the public prosecutor's office has decided not to prosecute Gevers.

    1. TRT Silver badge

      Re: Lost in translation

      Apparently if the hacker is acing ethically, i.e. a white cap hacker, then that goes in their favour.

      And as the guy was also a Dutch cap, that provides even more protection.

  16. Mowserx

    Obligatory Spaceballs reference

    MAGA2020! ? That’s amazing, I’ve got the same password on my Twitter!

    https://9gag.com/gag/aR79875

  17. trist

    Isn't this a bit harsh?

    Can he help it if he is an idiot?

  18. DutchBasterd

    "It’s worth noting there is less than a month before no one has to care what appears on Trump’s Twitter feed ever again."

    We'll see.

    1. O RLY

      Especially since 34 days is more than a month...

      I expect his account is banned at 1201 ET Jan 20th though.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    therefore he is not criminally liable

    that said, if I were him, I'd be a bit uneasy to visit the land of the free, Biden or no Biden. If you're waiting in arrivals, and they gently take you by the elbows and navigate through a side door, put a bag over your head and fast-forward, you find yourself in front of FISA court and declare guilty... I guess you have the right to protest all you want :(

  20. Scott 53

    Stupid haired bosses are all the same

    https://dilbert.com/strip/2001-09-06

  21. The commentard formerly known as Mister_C Silver badge

    The Tangerine man proves that he's the greattest again

    This password is the greatest example of how not to do it.

  22. ssieler

    Mildly interesting...some reports have it as "maga2020", some as "maga2020!", and some as "MAGA2020!".

    Wish they'd make up their minds :)

  23. Toni the terrible

    Laughter

    You may laugh at Mr Trump, as people laughed at previous dodgy politicians. But he is no laughing matter. Politicians like him usually manage to do a lot of damage before they go/die. Heck, there is no reason not to think he might try for a Coup to cling on to or regain power, he does have armed supporters after all.

  24. W.S.Gosset Silver badge

    And yet, oddly...

    And yet, oddly, not a single journo globally has posted a triumphant screenshot of this claimed hacked post.

    Despite thousands of journos and third-party nutters hovering over his account constantly.

    Despite any number of barely-known randos having intra-5min-before-deletion screenshots taken and posted for embarrassment value.

    I call fantasy. I call TDS.

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