HPE to move HQ from Silicon Valley to Texas, says Lone Star State is 'attractive' for recruitment, retaining staff HPE on Tuesday announced plans to relocate its corporate headquarters from San Jose, California, to Houston, Texas. It also reported $7.2bn in revenues for its fourth quarter of its fiscal 2020, flat year-on-year though above Wall Sreet's expectations. Its net earnings for the period were $157m, down 67 per cent year-on-year …
Sorry,
Been to Houston. Bro did his Residency there.
Yeah its not my favorite, but it beats watching out for piles of human feces, needles and bums demanding spare change while their buddies are lighting up a joint.
Then the high cost of living, taxes, smog, and the never ending smugness that is SFO.
Where 1 million dollars buys you a tear down...
I'll take the weather in TX over that.
At least I can get a CCW permit and head down to the range for fun.
(Target practice is the new golf in states where you can shoot. ) Of course that assumes ammo prices will drop after this election thing ends.
From Pikiwedia:
"Hurricane Harvey was a devastating Category 4 hurricane that made landfall on Texas and Louisiana in August 2017, causing catastrophic flooding and many deaths. It is tied with 2005's Hurricane Katrina as the costliest tropical cyclone on record, inflicting $125 billion (2017 USD) in damage, primarily from catastrophic rainfall-triggered flooding in the Houston metropolitan area and Southeast Texas."
don't worry, Tesla will be next to quit CA. That will put some pressure on the State to allow Tesla sales outlets in the state.
That shiny, shiny new factory will make the old plant in Fremont seem like it was built 100 years ago.
Perhaps they can fix their quality issues at the same time (CA laws on paint aren't helping)
Huh?
Remind me where Tesla built their battery plant?
Not Cali.
Look where their competitors are building.
Free clue... Closed existing car plants.
Why? Infrastructure is already in place.
Workers are also in place or can relocate back.
California?
Meh. Back in the mid 90's could have moved there.
Passed. Not worth dealing with the smugness and idiots in SFO.
Not to mention girls were all playing mind games. Had more fun on East Coast and Mid West.
"This is the biggest issue for the Republicans moving forward, they lose Texas they cannot win a Presidential election."
I'd suggest trying and change your political system to something that doesn't involve people getting a tattoo of a political party at birth and using that to cast a vote.
That's not democracy, thats some sort of tribal nonsense like some tin pot third world country.
I'd suggest trying and change your political system to something that doesn't involve people getting a tattoo of a political party at birth and using that to cast a vote.
Problem is, it's not a tattoo; for many American whites, it's their actual skin. Trump won white voters across almost all demographics.
Statistically speaking the people moving from California tend to be more likely to vote Republican/more conservative, so the narrative that California transplants are going to make it "more blue" is kind of a myth. Now it might make things "More moderate republican" you could argue, but that's a different thing.
Well regardless of whether it is migration from California or from other states, it is undeniable that Texas has gone from a solid republican state to a swing state in 2024 and probably a democrat state by 2028. Just look at the last four presidential elections and see the gap narrowing multiple points each time and follow the trend lines.
Of course, around the same time it seems just as likely that Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania will turn red, as Biden won them by fairly narrow margins (after Trump won them by even narrower margins in 2016) and along with Georgia and Arizona turning blue and Florida going from a "state democrats always think they can win but rarely do" to a solidly red state it probably won't make a whole lot of difference as far the electoral college.
The population of the US is moving south and west. Northern states like WI, MI and PA will continue to decline in importance. California, Texas, etc., continue growing and will have larger shares of the National vote.
Several states have a National Popular Vote law on the books. One big state, or a few small ones ratifying the law, and the Electoral College will be moot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
Let's leave aside the "politicians will only visit big cities and only address big city problems" because that's where the easiest to reach voters are concern.
Imagine if instead of having relatively close results in a few states, like we had both this year and 2016, we had a close popular vote with less than say 100,000 votes separating the two candidates nationwide. Let's even ignore a dictator wannabe like Trump making false allegations of fraud everywhere, and assume both candidates believe in democracy and the basic fairness of elections. That's still a small enough margin that the one behind will want recounts in a LOT of states, and you could potentially see a lot of lawsuits since different states count in different ways (i.e. some allow mail in ballots to be counted if they are postmarked by election day, others require those ballots to be received by election day) and may have different standards for ID, signature match, different equipment used and on and on.
At least the current system limits it to one state (like Florida in 2000) or a handful of states (though actually 2016 was a lot closer and it is only Trump's inability to admit he's a loser since anyone else would have conceded within a few days)
Sure, you can argue states like Alaska and Wyoming have too much power compared to California and Texas in the current system. Alaska and Wyoming might as well not exist as distinct states as far as their say in a popular vote presidential election.
Let's leave aside the "politicians will only visit big cities and only address big city problems" because that's where the easiest to reach voters are concern.
The current situation is that presidential candidates utterly ignore all non-swing states, and heap obscene amounts of attention on a few swing states and even specific counties and cities, which is infinitely worse.
Alaska and Wyoming might as well not exist as distinct states as far as their say in a popular vote presidential election.
Quite the contrary. Alaska and Wyoming don't matter because they're not swing states. If they were, their combined 6 votes could swing a close election.
the one behind will want recounts in a LOT of states
If the loser feels like paying for a large number of recounts, have at it.
The likelihood of a close election is drastically reduced with a nation-wide popular vote.
The current situation is that presidential candidates utterly ignore all non-swing states, and heap obscene amounts of attention on a few swing states and even specific counties and cities, which is infinitely worse.
But those change over time. Ohio, Iowa and Florida have recently been seen as swing states, and Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona and Georgia were not. Now that's flipped, and Texas will probably be a swing state in the next election. As people move around and demographics change, so does which states are swing states.
Those states have various demographics, and both urban and rural components, so candidates can't for instance stop caring about farmers because they represent only 2% of the US population. With a popular vote they will only care about big cities, and big city problems and those of their suburbs. Anyone who lives somewhere with a population of less than 50,000 will be ignored as totally irrelevant. And that will never change, regardless of any demographic changes.
Pretty much all the cities in Texas are blue. Houston has had a gay mayor and Austin is almost as liberal as San Francisco.
Just like at the national level, it's pretty much only gerrymandering and an electoral system that favors rural voters that keeps Republicans in power....
Dell is a hardware integrator, it's more of a sales operation than a tech company, particularly now that basically everyone doing that is outsourcing all their production. HPE does real tech stuff like software and technology research, in addition to slapping other people's tech into boxes like Dell.
I have worked for them both in their storage businesses. They are both pale shadows of their former selves. HPE is just further down the slippery slope than Dell at this time.
Bill and Dave must be spinning out there watching the succession of thieves and idiots screwing their business over.
I visited three years ago and was chatting to a ncie retired gentleman who was doing part time Uber driving . He said that there's a lot growth in startups and tech companies moving because the taxes are lower than in California.
But the entire states demographics have been shifting for a while now and a lot of people think it's not a case of if Texas turns Democrat but when.
Will this do the wonders for HPE's corporate culture that moving to Chicago did for Boeing's?
Philip Sheridan, sent to the Rio Grande as a message to Napoleon III after the US Civil War, is said to have told his troops that if he owned Hell and Texas, he'd live in Hell and rent out Texas. (A borrowing from some French general of the Bourbon days, I think.) There wasn't air conditioning in that day, but I wonder how many high-priced engineers at HPE hold roughly that attitude and can be shed.
Houston's a 61 today and partly cloudy. The hot months out of the year we:
1. Live in Air Conditioning
2. wear as little as possible when outside (or go to the large shaded parks, or do water activities).
3. We go out to bars/restaurants later. Patio bars are everywhere and in some extreme cases like Midtown they will outright air condition the outdoors. (As well as deploy giant fans, shade tarps and misters).
We have very mild winters as a pro.
Hi senior workers. You don't want to relocate to TX? That's OK, there are plenty of new grads from Austin to take your place (at reduced labor costs). Why fight age discrimination in court? Bailout of CA and let the workers write their own redundancies.
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Texas is a so called "right to work state" thus employers don't have to give you a reason or notice to boot you out the door. This gets inconvenient things like workers rights and compensation out of the way and HP is able to avoid lawsuits like what is happening at IBM, increasing the bonus pool for the corporate filth at the top.
Texas Workforce Commission has plenty of teeth. While we don't have a mini-WARN act like California, if you abuse employees the TWC will "Make You Pay" (I've seen it a lot).
Federal labor laws still exist In Texas (So WARN act notices are still required for someone as large as HPE doing layoffs), and notice has to be filed. Most large companies don't randomly fire people (without extreme cause, like you somehow end up inventing racially charged sexual harassment or something), and instead dump you with a package at the yearly RIF (Which again requires a WARN notice under federal law).
I'll counter this with:
1. Do you want to work somewhere that wants to fire you but is being restrained by state law. That sounds like a terrrrrible place to work.
2. Do you think California companies don't do layoffs? I've seen plenty of people get caught in a RIF.
3. Your Plan B on losing your job should be strong networking, and a short list of future employers always updated, not "NANANANA, YOU CAN"T FIRE ME I HAVE A LAW!".
Horrible place to be... ha. Texas now leads Cal. in all the notorious categories, like Covid cases, deaths, stupidity. Even though Cal. got hit badly looonng before Texas.
After he created the conditions under which 30 deaths per day became 300+ deaths per day, the governor actually relented and permitted local officials to establish local restrictions. Again. After he had earlier outlawed sanity in favor of "personal responsibility".
I don't recognize this country anymore. I do recognize Texas, though. They treat cows very nicely.
My surprise and I think that of many, HPE's headquarters in a year leaves Palo Alto, San Jose and goes to Houston, but what few know is that three years ago the company sold the vast, spectacular and well-located headquarters of EDS (owned by HP) in Houston. Let them explain it to me !!!
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