Test and Trace chief Dido Harding prompted to self-isolate by NHS COVID-19 app There's nothing quite like eating your own dog food, as Test and Trace chief Baroness Dido Harding has learned after being instructed to self-isolate by the NHS COVID-19 contact-tracing app overnight. In a tweet this morning, Harding said she was feeling well, and that there's "nothing like personal experience of your own …
"Now publish all your personal data online so that you can experience what it is like to be a TalkTalk customer."
I was very tempted to Tweet that in response to her Tweet around 08:30 today. However I decided to stand back and avoid getting crushed in the stampede. Although AFAICS you're the only other person with a mind running on the same wonky rails as mine.
In fact, in at least one workplace I know of, it is a formal disciplinary if you isolate when told to do so only by the app ... That includes if you are a teacher and an entire class has to isolate with multiple positive cases, the excuse being "our rules are that teachers social distance at all times" ... I still don't understand why cases are rising :-(
Her hubby was already self-isolation. Can't remember if it was app related or contact tracer related though. Anyone interested can check the news for the last week or so. But if he was already isolating and she wasn't that does make one wonder if they still live together or not. Or maybe he got a positive test and that's why her app pinged. On the other hand, if hubby was the cause of her ping, she should already have been isolating with him.
There will be many NHS developers reading this, but the Dido app isn't NHS.
It was entirely built and rolled out by Serco and the usual bunch of companies run by Tory ministers and their families. The only thing NHS about this semi-functional farrago is the blue rectangular logo that was slapped on it at the last minute.
Not our circus, not our monkeys.
AC for obvious reasons!
Not Serco though; this is a popular myth now widely debunked. I believe they have a lot to do with the manual tracing programme but not the app, which is completely separately operated (to the chagrin of the government).
Officially, the following were involved with the app:
Accenture, Alan Turing Institute, NHS Digital, NHSx, Oxford University, VMware Pivotal Lab and Zuhlke Engineering, plus the National Cyber Security Centre.
Not Serco though; this is a popular myth now widely debunked.
The fact remains, though, it's only NHS branding - if I weren't such a cynical son-of-a-bitch I'd say that it was done so that when it eventually collapses in a heap, Spaffer and his chums can point the finger and say 'look, the NHS isn't fit for purpose'
Sad thing is, the proles have fallen for it.
by involved, they mean, they got to look at it.
someone in NHSD looked at it, but the rest of the organisation didnt get a say, and i doubt the CSOC got a look.
NHSX is not NHS its a DHSC quango esigned to look flashy and take all the money for Digital transformation and spend it on consultants, rather than make it available for real improvement. Befor they came along, NHSD werwe making in roads in transforming the front line, and basically NHSx are re-doing all there work and getting in the way.
The 14 days starts from when you last had contact with the diseased humanoid, so the diseased gets their test back a couple of days later and then Dido gets her notification, thus time served is deducted from 14 days.
Incidentally, is there any punishment for feigning symptoms so you only need 10 days rather than 14 assuming you had more than 10 days left to sever?
"Incidentally, is there any punishment for feigning symptoms so you only need 10 days rather than 14 assuming you had more than 10 days left to sever?"
If your app pings, it indicates 14 days. If you tell your app you got a positive test by entering your result code, it indicates 10 days. Not sure if that would change if you get a 14 day notification and then enter a positive result code during the first 2-3 days.
Is it too much to hope that as soon as this period of self-isolation ends (both for her and the PM) that another contact leads to another self-isolation period?
It looks as if this would be the only thing to prompt the realisation that rather than blind self-isolation the better option would be to require the subject to get tested and then isolate or not based on the result.
The app is a presumptive test with a possibility* of giving a false positive. The correct response to a positive presumptive test is to follow up with a definitive test.
* Have they any estimate of the probability that? If so we should be told what it it. If not they should at least make an effort to find out.
Boris has received a txt to self isolate, "now so have I", says the waster Dido I-lost-all-talktalk-customer-data-to-hackers Harding.
"This track and trace I made is absolutely FAB".
Well peasants that cost us all £12Billion to txt two of the virus! Just for publicity....?
So on the 10th November, John Penrose MP, husband of Dido Harding was told to self-isolate. Yet Dido was only informed by her app 5 days after she was in contact with someone (14 days self isolation, 9 days left when notified). So presumably hubby wasn't the contact. Good illustration of how weak "her" system is, that she can wander around for 5 days as a potential "spreader".
So on the 10th November, John Penrose MP, husband of Dido Harding was told to self-isolate. Yet Dido was only informed by her app 5 days after she was in contact with someone (14 days self isolation, 9 days left when notified). So presumably hubby wasn't the contact. Good illustration of how weak "her" system is, that she can wander around for 5 days as a potential "spreader".
Penrose was told to isolate because he had been in contact with some who had had a postive test. Penrose himself has not had a positive test.
People who live with those who are self-isolating but who haven't had a positive test don't have to self-isolate. Therefore Dido didn't have to self-isolate just because her husband was.
She herself has subsequently come into contact with someone who has now had a positive test. So now she has to self-isolate.
Those are the rules, and I am sure that they were laid down by the Government's medical advisers, and not by her.
If every contact of someone self-isolating had to self-isolate, there would be no staff in hospitals or schools.
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