back to article When humans return to the Moon in '2024', HPE would like us to remember: We built the computer that simmed this

Amid NASA's plans to put boots on the Moon by 2024, Hewlett Packard Enterprise is blowing its own trumpet that simulations in preparation for the Artemis mission have been carried out on its Aitken supercomputer. The HPE-built high-performance computing (HPC) system has been crunching complex calculations to better understand …

  1. Floydian Slip
    Mushroom

    No protection against fools

    You can do all the simulation in the world but it'll never stop a human installing the wiring the wrong way around

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54979753

    1. Gene Cash Silver badge

      Re: No protection against fools

      And it's especially bad since "identical connectors next to each other" is already a well-known class of fuckup.

      They launched at the same time as Crew Dragon, both with a YouTube stream.

      SpaceX had 68,000 viewers... Arianespace had 771.

      1. TeeCee Gold badge

        Re: No protection against fools

        Or you could go for the Airbus fuckup going straight from computer design to production: Completely different connectors next to each other, that are supposed to plug together.

  2. Zebo-the-Fat

    Not...

    So not using a Pi Zero then?

    1. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Not...

      The ISS MIMIC project, built by NASA engineers uses Rapsberry Pi.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Except that they didn't have anything to do with any of this

    The original Hewlett-Packard company split into two in 1999: HP Inc. went on selling mostly Chinese-made consumer tat while the actual engineering bits (those that did participate in the US space program) became Agilent. HPE is a spin off from HP, the consumer company only vaguely related to Hewlett-Packard by its legal history, and not related at all in terms of employees, culture, ethics, or ability to do engineering.

    I am part of the group of people that has been boycotting Hewlett-Packard, and later HP, ever since they appointed that Fiorina woman. This would be the same group as the original founders' families, so in quite good company, if you ask me.

    1. ManMountain1

      Re: Except that they didn't have anything to do with any of this

      What are you on about? They are talking about the Aitken supercomputer that IS from HPE and is doing the sims NOW. Admittedly it probably originated from Cray but they have an HPE badge on them now. Your post seems like an irrelevant bitter rant.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Except that they didn't have anything to do with any of this

        You're right, I was talking about the 1960s moon landings. :-P My apologies, I'm a little behind in catching up with the news.

        1. ManMountain1

          Re: Except that they didn't have anything to do with any of this

          No worries. I'm sure we've all skim read something and got the wrong end of the stick at some point.

      2. just_some_dude

        Re: Except that they didn't have anything to do with any of this

        I believe the system in question is based on SGI tech, which was a pre-Cray acquisition.

  4. jake Silver badge

    Out of curiosity ...

    Has Aitken simulated what happens when Congress cancels the boondoggle and instructs NASA to ask for bids that involve putting boots on the moon instead of money in the various contractors pockets?

    1. Chris G

      Re: Out of curiosity ...

      Isn't it Congress that ensures the money goes to contractor's pockets?

      A genuine question because I don't know the answer.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Don't go to space til we sort out Earth

    Downvote me if you agree.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Don't go to space til we sort out Earth

      It doesn't work that way.

      Downvoted because you don't get to set the rules.

    2. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge

      Re: Don't go to space til we sort out Earth

      Given that every space program is a rounding error on the amount of money spent on military procurement, I think we can manage to do both. Hell, the cost of a single F-35 would probably feed every starving person on a given continent. It's not that we can't fix the problems on Earth, it's that we either can't agree what the problems are or we've made affirmative choices to continue them. Either way, fuck it, may as well go to space.

    3. werdsmith Silver badge

      Re: Don't go to space til we sort out Earth

      We need spearhead projects like space to drive us forwards and help sort out earth problems.

      It’s part of human nature to push on and explore beyond the envelope.

      Anyway, this moon thing won’t happen in 2024, that timescale was set to generate some glory in Trumps final term.

      2030 is more realistic.

      1. hoopsa

        Re: Don't go to space til we sort out Earth

        Maybe; the time between Kennedy's "Let's all go to the moon" speech and them actually landing on the moon was only 6 and a half years and they were starting from a lower technological base than we are today.

        I agree it'll likely take longer but I think technically it's feasible to do it in the suggested time. Whether it's politically feasible is another question but I wouldn't be surprised to see SpaceX (and maybe even Blue Origin) pushing on semi-independently.

        I'd love to see it happen.

  6. ForthIsNotDead
    Trollface

    So how come...

    ...we put men* on the moon in 1969 without doing all this bollocks?

    * other non-binary genders are available.

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: So how come...

      Because back then Engineers were in charge of Engineering. Now, it's beancounters, marketing and lawyers in charge of Engineering.

      It's a sad world we live in. And getting sadder.

    2. just_some_dude

      Re: So how come...

      Well, three astronauts died during a launch pad test early in the Apollo program and Apollo 13 was a failure.

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