back to article Yahoo! Groups! to! shut! down! completely! on! December! 15!... Tens! mourn!

Yahoo! is finally killing off Groups at the end of this year, after having launched it almost two decades ago. Once a bustling corner of the internet for netizens to advertise items, share information, or socialize with one another, Yahoo! Groups is now a husk of its former self, overtaken by the likes of Reddit, Facebook, and …

  1. Sleep deprived

    Time to die peacefully

    The Groups feature is the only reason I ever use or visit Yahoo. Everytime I hear about Yahoo, I expect to learn they're closing shop. I'm surprised it takes so long to happen. What value has Yahoo nowadays?

    1. Claverhouse Silver badge

      Re: Time to die peacefully

      Marissa Mayer's appointment: what does it mean for Yahoo? --- Giving the former Google executive the job should reinvigorate a company that had been drifting for years

      The Guardian - 2012

      1. RM Myers Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: Time to die peacefully

        Well, they certainly are no longer drifting. They are sinking fast - similar to what happened to the drone in the earlier story today in El Reg about the drone which had a run in with a gull.

        https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/12/drone_gull_attack_scotland/

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      The original Yahoo is already dead...

      "Everytime I hear about Yahoo, I expect to learn they're closing shop"

      It's just a brand of Verizon now. The original company is already gone; they sold off the main Yahoo business (including the name) three years ago, then finally disappeared completely last year when they sold off their remaining assets and liquidated themselves.

  2. Claverhouse Silver badge
    Mushroom

    Verizon is Shit

    .... and I'm not even American.

  3. lsces

    egroups?

    Didn't this come into existence following the takeover of egroups? I am fairly certain I only gained a 'yahoo' account when that happened. And it's been going down hill since the day yahoo took it over :(

    1. Uncle Slacky Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: egroups?

      Yes, Yahoo! didn't so much launch it as buy it and rename it from "egroups". The guy who created egroups went on to create groups.io, which is where many Yahoo!(e)groups have migrated since last year's announcement.

    2. Trilkhai

      Re: egroups?

      Yep — but even before that, the discussion-groups were run by ONEList. eGroups was originally an email archiving service launched around the same time, and the two companies merged a year or two before Yahoo bought them to create YahooGroups.

      Also, El Reg is incorrect about another thing: both ONEList and the eventual eGroups allowed owners to set their list to either allow all messages, only allow messages approved by a moderator, have new accounts (or ones whose owners had misbehaved) moderated either for a set amount of time or until the owner/mods cleared the status.

      1. Robert Carnegie Silver badge

        Re: egroups?

        Yeah... not especially fond memories of a group whose moderators evidently included someone who took a dislike to me and silently suppressed all of my contributions (as far as I could tell). And it was a while before I noticed that, which is by design evidently. No response, no forgiveness. Mind you, another forum - I'm going to call it Dosshouse - seems to have done that to me. Maybe it's the effect I have on people generally.

      2. Dave559 Bronze badge

        Re: egroups?

        I'm glad other people also recall the eGroups origins: "Launched in 2001", my arse. I was using eGroups in the 90s, and a very useful means of communication it was too, when you had to keep an eye on the phone call charges and mostly went online just once a day to slurp down your new email messages and usenet feed, and then hung up.

  4. steviebuk Silver badge

    I wonder

    If anyone started to archive them like they did with Geocities.

    Archiving the Internet is why I've recently started to archive my old Windows profiles over the years.

    1. james_smith

      Re: I wonder

      I'm a member of several fairly niche Yahoo groups covering technology stuff, of which two are still active.

      One is in the process of migrating to groups.io and the other has just started discussing it. The files sections have already been archived, and I think the message history will be part of the groups.io migration.

      The inactive groups are going to just disappear though. In most cases the admins don't respond to messages, so a proper migration is impossible. A shame, as there's a lot of technical information that's going to be lost.

      1. lsces

        Re: I wonder

        "A shame, as there's a lot of technical information that's going to be lost."

        Not just technical ... a lot of historic groups fall into the same hole and information is lost. I've managed to archive a few sites that marry in with my genealogical archives but others will not be so lucky.

    2. Return To Sender
      Unhappy

      Re: I wonder

      Y! made it pretty difficult to get info out of the groups even when you owned the group. As mentioned elsewhere a lot of active Y! groups migrated to groups.io, in our case mainly because it's one of the few that still support email-only operation and we (still) have some very web-averse members...

      There was a lot of traffic on the groups.io forum around Y! groups whose owners had either disappeared, or weren't interested. Y! were completely unhelpful so there will be a lot of active groups whose archive will basically be lost.

    3. ajayyy

      Re: I wonder

      ArchiveTeam did! https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups

      It was very difficult. They made a script to allow people to manually sign up accounts and join groups (since there are captchas). Once signed in, the credentials of that account were then sent to be archived by other people running scraping workers.

  5. IGotOut Silver badge

    Once again Family Guy nailed it.

    https://youtu.be/ERvkZoEgQnU

  6. chivo243 Silver badge
    Unhappy

    Will be missed

    I belong to a Yahoo group like Craig's list for my area. So long, I will miss it. I've gotten some great deals, and sold a lot of stuff that would be in a landfill...

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Coffee/keyboard

    I! Will! Miss! These! Headlines!

    They always made me smile...

    (They! Always! Made! Me! Smile!)

    1. wwwd

      Re: I! Will! Miss! These! Headlines!

      Agreed. For some reason my brain reads them to me in William Shatner's voice.

      Thanks brain.

    2. Bill Gray

      Re: I! Will! Miss! These! Headlines!

      You! forgot! to! put! the! exclamation! marks! in! HTML! italic! tags!

  8. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    I am/was a member of a local history group on Yahoo, and had to quickly gaffer-tape some code together to suck out all our files from the files area. Nearly two decades of research that could have gone up in smoke. We've moved the group over to another provider, and have archived the files as a big blob that needs somebody to take the time to tidy it up.

    1. Bill Gray

      I faced the same problem for the posts on four Yahoo! groups I maintained. After grabbing all files, I wrote a bit of C code to 'launder' them (remove lots of Javascript cruft and turn them into basic HTML with irrelevancies stripped), plus an index to said basic HTML files, which I could then put on my own server. On the off chance it'll actually help you (or somebody else) :

      C code to 'launder' Yahoo! group post blobs

      (top of the file explains how it all works). An example of the results (probably should look at this first to see if it's actually anything you'd be interested in) :

      Example of what you get after running the above code

  9. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    "Then again, we're getting on fine without Alta Vista."

    I'm not sure about "fine" when you look at some of the alternatives.

    1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      "Then again, we're getting on fine without Alta Vista."

      I'm not sure about "fine" when you look at some of the alternatives.

      Fortunately, Usenet still exists.. And because it isn't known much, no more Eternal September..

  10. Mike 16 Silver badge

    steady decline

    When you make it impossible to add content, and delete the existing content, it makes users unsure of their future with your platform.

    So, hardly a surprise.

  11. Trilkhai

    It's really a shame... I was a member on the original service when it was called ONEList (1997–1999), through the eGroups merger (early 1999), early years of the YahooGroups buyout in mid-1999, then intermittently after that — and all three were far more user-friendly than the alternatives available now. I tried participating on one of the two main alternatives, since a group I'd been on before moved its archive there, but it was just too much of a PITA to bother with.

    Also, moderation controls over the list and individual users were available on ONEList/eGroups before YahooGroups bought them out. (I spent far too much time in college in 1998–1999 manually approving messages for a very active 2,000-member discussion group that kept having massive flamewars over stupid things.)

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