back to article Not one to be outdone by Microsoft, Apple's cloud fell over too. Unlike Microsoft, it hasn't said what happened

The rivalry between Apple and Microsoft continued last night as the fruity firm's cloud services took a tumble a mere day after Azure crapped itself. While Apple has remained silent on what happened (we asked; it did not respond), the vast majority of its services wobbled over a two-hour period early this morning (UK time). …

  1. Alister Silver badge

    We just need to wait for AWS, Google Cloud and Oracle to follow this new tradition then.

    It is 2020, what else can happen?

    1. Flywheel Silver badge
      FAIL

      An AWS (S3) fallover would be nasty if you think how many companies and public bodies store documents on there. Example: Companies House.

    2. Anon

      Are you asking for a failure which trumps all other failures?

  2. fajensen Silver badge

    Shared point of Failure?

    Something quite important but accidentially running on some rinky-dink platform that "nobody" controls? Like the dLink debacle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse#D-Link_and_Poul-Henning_Kamp

  3. karlkarl Silver badge

    "Unlike Microsoft, it hasn't said what happened"

    It is fairly clear to see what happened. Idiots signed up to a "cloud" service...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Idiots signed up to a "cloud" service...

      An Idiot and his Data are easily separated.

  4. AMBxx Silver badge
    Joke

    Hosted on Azure

    Maybe they host the iCloud on Azure?

    1. mevets

      Re: Hosted on Azure

      I know you said joke alert, but at one point at least part of icloud was on Azure, and it is very likely still partially served on it. From no less a reliable source than: https://www.theregister.com/2011/09/02/icloud_runs_on_microsoft_azure_and_amazon/.

      It is 2020, what was once hilarious and unimaginable is commonplace. Watch some clips of the first US Presidential debate if you don't believe me.

      1. Peter-Waterman1

        Re: Hosted on Azure

        icloud is mainly run on AWS, with some on Azure. In fact, according to various news outlets, its a fairly large bill each month - $30M / month

        https://9to5mac.com/2019/04/22/icloud-apple-amazon/#:~:text=Amazon%20Web%20Services%20(AWS)%20are,be%20more%20than%20%2430%20million.&text=Apple%20also%20recently%20signed%20an,over%20a%20five%2Dyear%20period.

    2. martynhare

      Re: Hosted on Azure

      iCloud runs on Azure in many countries. So if Azure goes down, so does iCloud. I’m beginning to think hosting your own stuff is superior in just about every way,

  5. Paradroid

    It's a miserable, dull day here in the UK

    But "At one point even the System Status page reportedly fell over." brightened it up a lots. Thanks for the laugh El Reg.

    1. RM Myers Silver badge
      Unhappy

      Re: It's a miserable, dull day here in the UK

      Evidently the weather is cloud-y in Cupertino also, but I doubt the natives felt the same as you about the System Status page. Fortunately, ignoring El Reg is a well Cook-ed delicacy in Apple land.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Azure AD

    In a bid to reduce costs, is Apple cloud relying on Azure AD?

  7. Jason Hindle

    Fine

    I'm perfectly happy for Apple to have its unplanned maintenance windows in British quiet hour.

  8. cjcox

    Choose the safe blame

    Blame it on Microsoft. Then it's "ok" for it to happen.

    Can't believe Apple hasn't learned this.

    "Hey Chris, why are the systems all down? If they aren't back up in 2 minutes, you're fired!"

    It's a Microsoft problem.

    "Oh, ok, how about a liquid lunch, your choice?"

    1. RyokuMas Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Choose the safe blame

      Nope, it's probably Epic's fault, depriving Apple of their vital 30% cut, whichout which they undoubtedly cannot properly maintain their infrastructure...

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    it did not respond

    "While Apple has remained silent on what happened (we asked; it did not respond)"

    I'd be more concerned if Apple ever does respond to ElReg!

    1. Mark 110

      Re: it did not respond

      https://www.theregister.com/2016/11/28/howto_terro_manuals_still_on_sale_by_apple_amazon_and_waterstones/

      ""To protect freedom of speech and avoid censorship, unless a title is illegal we tend not to remove it from the iBooks Store," a representative at Apple told The Register."

      Last time I saw a response from Apple on these pages . . . Mon 28 Nov 2016

  10. firu toddo
    Facepalm

    And its back up......

    Or not! Still having issues with new 8th gen iPads. They can't contact the iCloud login servers.

    Apples status page (www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/) is all full of green goodness including iCloud sign in. (A note helpfully boasts Issues have been resolved!)

    Apples support drones have no idea whats going on and can only offer the less than helpful advice 'try it again in a few days'. It is possible to get into your new shiny without using an iCloud login. But no new App store toys or cloud storage (or anything cloudy from Apple) till they fix it.

  11. Nick Pettefar

    Oracle Downloads Site Down

    Can’t download Solaris 10 x86!

  12. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

    "Some users were affected"

    The problem with "some" users being affected, when it's a massive multi-national organisation, is that "some users" could be an entire country or region of the world.

    1. Jay Lenovo

      Re: "Some users were affected"

      The dire serious of any outage is whom is affected (starting with you).

      Azure is too big for these general summaries to have clarity. It's about as helpful as stating in WWII "some" lives were lost.

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