In a world where up is down, it's heartwarming to know Internet Explorer still tops list of web dev pain points Web developers resent having to deal with Microsoft Internet Explorer and Apple Safari, which they cite among their top three pain points, alongside layout and styling inconsistencies among browsers. This finding comes from the Mozilla Developer Network's 2020 Browser Compatibility Report [PDF], a survey of web development …
IE used to be the dominant browser (and all Windows users had access to it even if they didn't use it as their default)
I'm sure we'll be seeing the same kind of crap with Chrome before long given its dominance, with Firefox and Safari not working / not tested / not supported just like non-IE browsers often were during its heyday back in 2005 or whatever.
I’ve recently installed Chrome because an online classroom Whiteboard app for a tutoring site only worked properly in it. I didn’t even try in Safari. I had a look using Firefox since another one works okay in that. Chrome handles both seamlessly. Under Mac Sierra to boot (can’t upgrade, will lose gfxcardstatus so kernel panic time).
I’m not warm on Chrome for privacy reasons but damn it works well. I can see my Firefox use dwindling and using Chrome for mission critical (getting paid) stuff.
When it helps you fill your wallet it is hard to dislike something. Quite a lot more work is coming my way so I NEED that.
Just been appraised of all the stuff I can claim for self employed working from home. Working out what proportions I can claim for will be fun, not, but worthwhile (see above in terms of wallet filling stuff).
I’m not warm on Chrome for privacy reasons but damn it works well.
Almost certainly because Chrome is the only browser they target/test/support. It is attitudes like yours that allowed IE only sites to persist for so long - "this site doesn't work properly in Firefox, I guess IE must be a better browser".
"The problem with Internet Explorer, as far as web developers are concerned, is that companies often require web apps to be compatible with IE, which limits the kinds of capabilities that can be deployed.."
Which fsck wits are asking for IE compatibility in 2020! Sure you might have to use IE for some legacy web apps but please don't use it for anything else other than those legacy apps.
Ask the medical system vendors who hamstring the deployments and then the failure to specify browser agnostic delivery of service from the purchasing team - which often doesn't include appropriate IT involvement (includes all of: not invited, didn't bother to come and don't enforce vendor/browser neutral solutions)
DOI involved peripherally in some £M+ procurement of said systems
As a totally blind user of screen reader software, I am essentially forced to use IE11 for accessibility purposes.
Chrome won't install due to the installer not being accessible. Brave, PaleMoon, Vivaldi, & WaterFox aren't accessible at all, & other browsers are openly & actively hostile to my 'Reader if they can be installed at all.
Edge & FF tend to render pages into useless glop that makes no sense from a purely audio POV. Like not rendering edit boxes, not describing drop down menu choices, or otherwise screwing up website navigation to make it (essentially) impossible to move around.
An example is NewEgg.com. When you start to filter products via the giant page of check boxes, every single time you check/uncheck a box it forces a refresh of the page. Every. Single. Bloody. Box. The "Price" filter edit boxes don't render the high-end "Max" box & the only way to get to it is to Tab past it, cursor up until you find it again, & *HOPE* the resulting button to act upon your entry actually comes up. Otherwise you've just entered an amount the site ignores & shows you unfiltered-on-price results.
There are far too many sites that do NOT render properly under Edge or FF that DO under IE. I realize IE is old, but for the love of all that's geeky, please don't treat the disabled like second class citizens.
*Hands you a pint*
Sorry if my rant was harsh, I'm just a little pissed that I'm Getting Too Old For This Shit & technology is doing it's damnedest to treat me like shit.
If it helps, Chrome is also available as an MSI (Microsoft Installer) File. This is installed using standard Windows tools, so the install *should* be accessible to screen readers (don't have one I can check with). Just go to https://chromeenterprise.google/browser/
I've downloaded the MSI, installed it, configured it, & am currently posting via Chrome.
I can not thank you enough for the tip to the MSI, but if we ever meet in person I'll buy you enough to drink to make you slosh like an over-filled bucket.
*Raises tankard & clinks rims*
"Can we all just agree to stop supporting IE IPv4 come 2021? 2012 If we all do it, they won't have any choice but to switch."
How's that working out for you my_way_or_the_highway folks?
And do keep in mind that most of your users aren't techies. They just want things to work. And even a few of us that are techies think that (many) current trends in "web-design" seem pretty much off-the-rails.
I have a CCTV system which I can only access with Safari or it's own software. Safari loads the CCTV in seconds and is very easy to use while it's own software takes ages to load and is over complicated and difficult to use. I'm not a techie but I do play around with things so I am quite savvy and use different browsers for different things, when something doesn't work properly I switch to another browser, I have removed Edge as I object to the way it was installed without my permission. Wouldn't it be nice if everything just worked on one (any) browser?
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