back to article Surprise! Apple launches iOS 14 today, and developers were given just 24 hours' notice

Apple is expected to release the 14th version of its iOS mobile operating system later today, alongside major system updates for the iPad, Apple Watch, and Apple TV. For iPhone users, iOS 14 brings improved multitasking and significant aesthetic changes. Incoming calls, for example, are now indicated in a small window, and no …

  1. Snake Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Shocked, shocked I say

    "Apple really really hates developers."

    Say it ain't so. I would have never have guessed.

    1. chivo243 Silver badge
      Pirate

      Re: Shocked, shocked I say

      When you look at it, Apple as monetized everything, including developing your software for them!

    2. Ian Joyner Bronze badge

      Re: Shocked, shocked I say

      Some Japanese guy posts a tweet that only says "Apple really really hates developers." And Register uses this as absolute proof.

      I won't say it is a trouble free relationship. Apple, like technology, moves fast. Personally, I have been caught a few times by this. But Apple do a whole lot to also support developers. One has been very successful – Microsoft. But they are also responsible for Apple's begin careful what they let out, because it is well known Gates took advantage of Apple's early openness.

    3. theOtherJT

      Re: Shocked, shocked I say

      Having spent months trying to jump through all the hoops required to get our org registered as an official developer I 100% agree with this statement. It's not that they're actually asking anything unusual, it's that they're impossible to communicate with. Oh, sorry, that person you were dealing with has moved department. Start over. Oh, you've moved official business address because you've moved to a new office? Start over. Because of covid we've changed the procedure. Start over. It's like they are actively looking for excuses not to talk to you at every step of the process.

  2. A Non e-mouse Silver badge

    In the past 24 hours I've seen two messages from different companies saying there are problems with iOS14 (which have been there since the beta versions) and telling their users not to upgrade.

    1. WolfFan Silver badge

      Which apps?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Who cares?

        1. WolfFan Silver badge

          Those who would like to avoid incompetent devs.

          1. Eeep !

            Apples or the exteranl parties?

    2. John Riddoch

      I know Niantic were having issues with Ingress and Pokemon Go on IOS 14 beta, but they've released new versions in the last 24 hours which they say should work OK on it.

      1. davidp231

        Can confirm - got bored the other day and installed the beta - Pokemon just fell over. General release came, Pokemon still dead. Update to Pokemon released - runs fine. Now AC: Pocket Camp is in the same boat.

    3. IGotOut Silver badge

      My Kids Animal Crossing by Nintendo has said it won't work.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I've heard there are problems with corporate VPNs too.

  3. iron Silver badge

    There goes Apple, inventing things that already exist again.

    1. Ian Joyner Bronze badge

      "There goes Apple, inventing things that already exist again."

      A bit more deep analysis needed here. Other companies compete with Apple. They get an idea (maybe because Apple is working on it), and rush a half-baked version to market.

      Apple takes its time and gets it right. The Register article says:

      "Meanwhile, the Picture-in-Picture feature allows users to watch videos and place voice calls while using other applications. Android devices have had this for some time and it must be implemented by developers on an app-by-app basis"

      Note PiP is in Android because app developers have done it. Could be the same on iOS, but developers probably don't bother because they know Apple is doing it independent of apps.

      1. Sgt_Oddball Silver badge
        Windows

        I reiterate...

        Sony's Small apps have been with us for 8 years now. It's not a half-baked or rushed idea.

        Perhaps, Apple could be playing catch-up? (especially against Sony again.. Considering when the iPhone initially came out it's main smart phone rival was the Sony W950/W960 Symbian based UIQ. Yes we know iOS was better, and that capacitive screens the way forward, but that doesn't mean Apple got there first or that others are ripping them off all the time).

      2. DaLo
        Facepalm

        Deep Analysis

        So your "deep analysis" is stating that others create a "half-baked version" and "Apple takes its time and gets it right". To prove this point after doing "deep analysis" you point to the fact that on Android a developer needs to implement this in their app.

        However your "deep analysis" failed to spot the context and the text after which I'll quote in full here "Android devices have had this for some time and it must be implemented by developers on an app-by-app basis. It's therefore conceivable that your preferred streaming service may not support it on launch. Obviously, both Safari and Apple TV will offer it from the get-go."

        Which even with some "light analysis" is obviously talking about Apple developers needing to implement it on an app-by-app basis.

        Therefore my conclusion is that you must actually now agree (maybe after some further analysis?) that Apple has actually released something half-baked?

        1. Ian Joyner Bronze badge

          Re: Deep Analysis

          "So your "deep analysis" is stating that others create a "half-baked version" and…"

          Sorry DaLo, what you say in that post makes so little sense I don't even know where to start responding to it. What did you not understand that Android has PiP because it was provided in individual apps ""Android devices have had this for some time and it must be implemented by developers on an app-by-app basis" (so long as Register's reporting is correct).

          "Which even with some "light analysis" is obviously talking about Apple developers needing to implement it on an app-by-app basis."

          That is not what at least the Reg article suggested at all.

          1. DaLo
            WTF?

            Re: Deep Analysis

            Yes, it is - Apple developers will need to implement the ability in their apps, that is what it is saying in the article. Why does my post not make any sense, maybe your analysis wasn't so "deep"? I presume having done"deep analysis" you have checked the iOS 14 developer documentation or just some articles as well to back this up?

            I'll break down the paragraph for you:

            ""Android devices have had this for some time and the [Apple PiP feature] must be implemented by developers on an app-by-app basis. It's therefore conceivable that your preferred streaming service on [iOS 14] may not support it on launch. Obviously, both Safari and Apple TV [developed by Apple] will offer it from the get-go [but othe Apple apps will not as they have to develop it for their apps].""

            1. Ian Joyner Bronze badge

              Re: Deep Analysis

              DaLo "that is what it is saying in the article"

              That is your interpretation. OK, the sentence in the article "Android devices have had this for some time and it must be implemented by developers on an app-by-app basis" is badly written, but it seems to only be referring to Android, not making a claim about Apple's PiP.

              Regardless of this fact, my original point still stands – that often the competition rush out a half-baked version of things, and Apple takes time to get it right.

      3. Paper

        huh

        Apple gets it right? I switched briefly from Android to Apple. There were so many things that, IMO, needed fixing that I switched right back to Android. No regrets!

        1. Tim99 Silver badge

          Re: huh

          And, I did the reverse...

          I have a theory, going back to at least Xtree Gold and Norton Commander, that for most users whatever they try first is "right", and whatever they try later is "wrong".

  4. WolfFan Silver badge

    Nonsense

    The GM is nearly identical to the last beta, and the betas have been available for months. The iPad this is being typed on got a beta back in March or April, probably April, and it was not one of the early betas. It had the last beta, and has the GM, and actual test shows very little difference between the two. In particular, several (as in about a dozen) of my favorite bugs are still in the GM. At least two of those bugs date back to iOS 6 or 7... Yes, the bugs have been reported to Apple. No, they’re not fixed, nor do I expect them to be fixed. Ever. The alleged new features work. Kinda. And have worked, kinda, for months. A dev with sense should have tested against the betas. Yes, it’s a moving target, but if the devs did that they would have something ready to roll inside of a few days of getting the GM. Certain apps had problems with the betas (CitiBank, I’m looking at _you_) but issued updates during the beta period which fixed the errors. Well, most of them, it’s Citi, there’s no way that they will ever fix all the problems... Apple itself had problems which were sorted out during the betas, notably with power management, especially on iPad Pros and iPhone 8s. (Guess how I know)

    Good devs will have app updates close to ready. Bad devs will still be fixing in December. Very bad devs (Aspyr...) will take longer. There’s a reason why the the newest expansion packs for things like Civ 6 on iOS aren’t out yet, while having been available elsewhere, including Mac, for months. The Mac version of Civ 6 is perpetuated by... Aspyr. It’s not the first time that there has been significant lag on iOS... Perhaps they should hire better coders...

    1. My other car WAS an IAV Stryker Bronze badge

      Re: Nonsense

      Citi banking app... I'm still on iOS 13.whatever (I don't do betas) and Touch ID stopped working months ago. A little inconvenient but not terribly.

      1. James O'Shea

        Re: Nonsense

        FaceID doesn't work properly with Citi either. This kind of thing lowers confidence in their app, and it's not as if I was particularly confident about Citi's, or any other financial institution's, app in the first place.

    2. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: Nonsense

      Please read the section of the article that discusses the issue. The problem isn't about testing. Some developers may do that wrong, but that's not what's being discussed. What is being discussed is that developers can't push apps using IOS 14 behavior to the store until the GM goes out. That was last night. Now it's available to users. Those apps haven't been approved yet. The devs are complaining about the speed with which Apple pushed out the release which caused the OS to be there before their reviews completed, not about difficulty testing. I don't care much; I wouldn't install an operating system on day one anyway so I could easily afford to wait for the apps and the OS, but at least understand the complaints before attacking developers about something not connected to what they're talking about.

    3. Joe W Silver badge

      Re: Nonsense

      Go back and read the article.

      Done yet?

      OK. So, the complaints are about the short time between devs being able to push their apps to the store so apple can test them, and the public release of the OS to the public.

      Edit: dang, somebody did already answer this..

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Nonsense

        Eh? Personally I didn’t read the bit that said developers couldn’t submit new versions of their apps for the last few months. Maybe you could point me to it?

        That you cannot submit with the new SDK before it gets released isn’t new or relevant to fixing bugs.

      2. WolfFan Silver badge

        Re: Nonsense

        I read the article. I also have, on this very device, apps which were updated for iOS 14 yesterday and today. Competent devs got their testing done, submitted their apps, and got them out... Incompetent devs moan and groan and still won’t have their apps ready in December.

  5. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "Cupertino's rigorous software and human-driven testing"

    Oh, you're just being cute now, aren't you ?

  6. MiguelC Silver badge

    "Incoming calls, for example, are now indicated in a small window, and no longer consume the entire display."

    Hoo, hoo, did Apple just invent what Samsung (maybe other Android variations too) users have had for some years now?

    1. Sleep deprived
      Happy

      Samsung should sue, claiming that customers could erroneously buy an iPhone thinking they were getting a Galaxy.

      1. Alumoi

        Just don't go there. All phones now have round corners which, as everybody knows, were invented by Apple.

    2. werdsmith Silver badge

      I’m missing where Apple claim to have invented this stuff?

      1. Eeep !

        Oh, just wait for the claim - the longer they leave it the more likely their users will believe - mist of memory effect.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Does the small pop-up window have rounded corners?

  7. Brewster's Angle Grinder Silver badge

    Don't mingle but you can shoot grouse

    "...with less than 24 hours' notice that a new version was coming."

    Pah, loads of time! The British government can release Covid-19 laws 20 minutes before they're due to come into effect....

  8. tip pc Silver badge

    iOS 13 was that terrible!

    Goes to show how bad 13 truly was.

    I abandoned 13 months ago and even the 14 beta has been much much better.

  9. Ian Joyner Bronze badge

    Title Misleading (no not this one!)

    "Surprise! Apple launches iOS 14 today, and developers were given just 24 hours' notice"

    No, they have had the beta for at least several months since WWDC. Everyone has known iOS 14 has been imminent.

    The last paragraph addresses this but relies on a couple of tweets by unknown people. The first:

    "Apple announcing the iOS 14 release date 24 hours ahead of time as a summer ending gift to developers"

    Well, that does not sound bad. If Apple said "well it will be available" next month people could be complaining. In fact, people are used to this kind of announcement. An expectation of release (at WWDC), then a sudden 'we have it'.

    The reply tweet says "@KarlCheeseAji Apple really really hates developers"

    That's it. So what? Maybe KarlCheeseAji is one of those people who trolls the net posting anti-Apple stuff.

    It is not true anyway. But Register uses a single tweet as absolute proof. Poor journalism.

    I won't say it is a trouble free relationship. Apple, like technology, moves fast. Personally, I have been caught a few times by this. But Apple do a whole lot to also support developers. One has been very successful – Microsoft. But they are also responsible for Apple's begin careful what they let out, because it is well known Gates took advantage of Apple's early openness.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Title Misleading (no not this one!)

      Surely if apple are releasing a new OS and they want the developers to make sure their apps that target it and work with it are available, then they either need to allow apps to be reviewed and accepted before the release is generally available or allow more time from the GM to public release so that they can catch up with all the reviewing for their app store.

      The users will blame the devs when their apps don't work and the devs are stating that Apple only care about their own apps (which they can obviously launch along with IOS 14) and don't car about third party apps - even making it difficult or impossible to get a release approved in time for the launch.

      You can see why they may be a bit disgruntled, but Apple seems to regard third-party devs as a necessary inconvenience.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Suppose the COVID API is baked in this new shiny?

    1. Doogie Howser MD

      Yeah but you have to travel 250 miles from your home to use it.

  11. Sgt_Oddball Silver badge
    Headmaster

    Wait a minute...

    Arguably the biggest change is something called App Clips, which is faintly reminiscent of Huawei's Quick Apps. These are effectively pared-down applications designed to launch quickly and perform a limited set of tasks.

    You mean Sony's small apps surely? (present since 2012... Yes, they still make android devices, stop sniggering at the back and yes, everyone now seems insistent on ripping off their good ideas, like battery life preservers, small apps, decent music apps, etc etc)

  12. Doogie Howser MD

    Some praise for Apple (gulp)

    I consider myself a big cynic of Apple, especially their "magical and revolutionary" schtick, but the main reason I moved to iPhone from Android is what is spelled out in this article - a clear lifespan for a device and regular OS updates. None of this garbage where a carrier has to certify it first and then add their own crapware.

    I know we have Android One etc and Nokia kept up to date quite well, but it was still patchy in terms of device support in at timely manner.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    We’re iWatching u

    because if you only wash your hands for 19 seconds you’re not worthy to use our devices.

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