back to article Xi Jinping again urges China to home-grow more ‘core’ tech, faster

Chinese president Xi Jinping has again urged the nation to develop more the technology it needs to develop its economy. In a Monday speech to a social and economic conference in Beijing, Xi called for China to “vigorously improve our independent innovation capabilities and make breakthroughs in key core technologies as soon as …

  1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Go East, Create a Fortune and Flirt with Maiden GeoPolitical Dangers

    ..... with All Manner of Rotten CapitalistICQ Whores in Tow

    That's surely great news for core technologists unenamoured and/or disengaged by the West too. Another virgin opportunity with an enthusiastic partner fully appreciative of the novel help in postmodern systems of greater social engineering.

    Any simple lead in any one of those core technology fields has one creating the possibility of being overwhelmingly influential and inordinately powerful. That's bound to be extremely attractive to some, who may be also be many, and much more than just a chosen few.

    Methinks that has one skirting around quantum communications fields given the nature of the Qubit and the then fact rather than fiction that a this can be a that and together something else too superpositioning which be fundamentally different and classically imposing ...... and quite naturally most probably also capable of being an almighty disruptive and creatively destructive development in a brave new world field. And that makes such an internetworking thing, immeasurably valuable and cheap at whatever cost imagined and price gladly paid.

    But quite normal for these strange times and spaces in which we are all living nowadays with Odays and RATs practically and virtually everywhere one cares to turn. 'Tis just the simple nature of the complex beast.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Plain English please

    You do sound Martian and dont make sense.

    What I gather from the article is that it is the American greed that gave rise to this monster Capitalist (China - communist?) by outsourcing everything there at cheaper cost, to satisfy the huge consumer appetite of the US and protect their margins at the urgings of Wall street wolves. All in the name of globalisation.

    Now that China is teaching them the same few tricks and lessons of globalisation (mass productions and econmies of scale), by supplying most things to most countries cheaply, the same Yanks cant stomach their rise and wealth and ambitions. They are fast learners and why wouldnt they milk USA (and others) from the technology transfers that the same Yanks gave them to manufacture cheaply,

    Trump had a point, but its too late . China has a momentum of its own now and can survive and innovate to its hearts delight. Like it or not, the genie is outta the bottle.Suck it up or preapre for a WW3, if the white house gangster has his way.

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: Plain English please

      You do sound Martian and dont make sense. .... Anonymous Coward

      Whereas that observation of yours can be easily accepted, AC, what you have to look out for, and be prepared for, for it will be surprisingly shocking, is it making much more than just a lot of sense to a vital few who be much more than merely capable of enabling and sustaining the types of leading programs and super impositions expounded.

      And I can't say that any plainer, and it certainly makes sense even if one doesn't actually know exactly what it might be referring to.

      And there are of course, some things one is best not knowing anything about because they be feared and/or considered extremely dangerous and subversive/coersive and immersive and disruptive, and thus they need to be, for all the good reasons beloved of protectors and security, more than just a tad obscure and unusual/irregular and unconventional.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Plain English please

        I might understand it better once I have a Quantum computer on my desk ! This and that and here and there, too. Maybe I could hitch a ride to Mars on the Chinese rocket and still be here & there. And hopefuly understand all the nuances of your post.

        What will happen to USA's balance of payments, once China starts mass producing and exporting commercial aircrafts to cater for every budget? Which seems to be Americas biggest export at the moment. Japan's Mitsubishi has the prototypes ready. A bit of espionage will seal the deal for them. The Chinese are on a mission.

  3. Commswonk

    That's a Bit Rich...

    From the Article: State-owned organ China Daily characterised one such skirmish - TikTok suing to avoid a US ban - as “gunboat diplomacy”. ®

    Given what the Chinese are reportedly attempting in (I think) the South China Sea that accusation comes into the category of "pot calling kettle black". The only difference is that the Chinese are likely to use real gun - boats.

    1. Jim Mitchell

      Re: That's a Bit Rich...

      South China Sea is "gun island diplomacy".

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @Commswonk - Re: That's a Bit Rich...

      If I read it correctly, it's not Chinese carriers close to US waters, it's the other way around. Having some difficulties with geography makes me think you might be a proud citizen of the greatest democracy on the planet.

      1. Commswonk

        Re: @Commswonk - That's a Bit Rich...

        If I read it correctly, it's not Chinese carriers close to US waters, it's the other way around.

        You aren't reading it correctly, and I suspect deliberately. I am not disputing that US carriers are in the South China Sea, but that is International Waters that the Middle Kingdom is trying to annex by building artificial islands. Any US or other western naval presence is to remind Beijing that it has no right to spread its borders and thus threaten other countries in the region. And yes, Taiwan is another country. IIRC the UN has ruled on the status of the South China Sea, but as far as I can see China is more or less ignoring that ruling.

        Having some difficulties with geography makes me think you might be a proud citizen of the greatest democracy on the planet.

        I am not having any difficulties with my geography; neither am I a US citizen; you are wrong on both counts.

        I await your response once your government has told you what it is.

  4. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Perhaps he should have ended by thanking Trump for his encouragement.

  5. P.B. Lecavalier

    Core Technologies

    "but never quite made a definitive statement on what is considered core technology"

    Whatever they can salvage through "technology transfers" (thanks to short-sighted Western companies) and espionage.

    What I infer from this speech: The global pandemy has slowed down "operations". Oh I'm sure they are quite capable at this point to develop solid home-grown technologies, but do you seriously think that something that begins and ends with a governmental committee will work?

    1. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

      Re: Core Technologies

      I'm pretty sure they mean stuff like wafer machines since without them you can't make any semiconductors and the ones they do own can only make obsolete parts (although still useful for less demanding items like missiles and airplanes).

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      @P.B. Lecavalier - Re: Core Technologies

      In China yes, you do what government says or else... This is how they managed to move from middle age to space age in about 50 years.

      1. P.B. Lecavalier

        Re: Core Technologies

        We heard the same reasoning applied to the USSR, way back. It did not work out too well. This "space age" you speak of does not apply to the country as a whole and is not representative of anything.

        1. σύνβάλλω

          Re: Core Technologies

          The USSR didn't grow a middle class of 400 million and counting. And neither had they the world's production in house.

          While being a communist country too, the Chinese have been really good at transforming in a capitalist country while preserving a frightening level of control. After the fall of the wall, Russia quickly transitioned to the worst disparities and became an oligarchy without a big plan. If they hadn't energy resources (and some hacking skills) to leverage their scarce international presence, we wouldn't hear much of the country. I wouldn't worry about China being communist, but their money and their potential warfare production's scale.

          China's international expansion techniques are more subtle than those of the US, and that despite having a non democratic system.

          Not that western private tax evading behemoths like Google et al are any less scary in the long run, they haven't even a country to recognise themselves in.

  6. StrangerHereMyself Silver badge

    ASML had better watch out!

    No doubt the Chinese cyber spies are out to get them!

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