back to article No, boss, I'm not playing Minecraft. Minecraft is where I run VMs on the desktop now

A developer who goes by "Delta2Force" has created a Minecraft mod that runs virtual machines on virtual computers built inside Minecraft. The mod is called "MCVmComputers" and is yours for the downloading on GitHub. The odd twist on virtualization relies on Oracle's free VirtualBox desktop hypervisor and the Fabric Minecraft …

  1. Neil Barnes Silver badge
    Pint

    From a bloke currently

    knocking up a 6502 emulator to run on a Nucleo Arm board, just so he can run a 1970's MS Basic instance...

    one of these --->

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: From a bloke currently

      Have you considered running an actual 6502?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: From a bloke currently

        Sensible question, but not the point.

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

          Re: From a bloke currently

          Well, yes... this project actually started as a minimum chip 6502 design, but that led to wondering whether a serial flash chip could emulate parallel rom at a (much) lower speed - around 1MHz, and that led to just putting the memory on a Nucleo Arm, and that led to putting the processor on the Arm as well...

          What the hell, I'm an engineer. I can stop any time I like... can't I?

          1. Def Silver badge
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            Re: From a bloke currently

            I'm an engineer. I can stop any time I like...

            You keep telling yourself that. I'm sure one day it might turn out to be true.

            1. A.P. Veening Silver badge

              Re: From a bloke currently

              You keep telling yourself that. I'm sure one day it might turn out to be true.

              It will, about one day after he stops breathing.

          2. jake Silver badge
            Pint

            Re: From a bloke currently

            Have a beer, Brother.

          3. Boris the Cockroach Silver badge
            Boffin

            Re: From a bloke currently

            Quote:

            What the hell, I'm an engineer. I can stop any time I like... can't I?

            The short answer is no... 40 odd years of experience have taught me that... ever more fiendish devices for killing luckless managers/operato ... oops.... for producing widgets ever faster have proved that to me

            The long answer is you can stop any time you like, but you really have to tell yourself you want to stop

            E e e engineering... I can hhhandle it.. cant I?

            1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

              Re: From a bloke currently

              Well, I retire (as an engineer) in five or six weeks. I'll obviously need something to fill my time...

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: From a bloke currently

                " I'll obviously need something to fill my time..."

                Friends, neighbours, acquaintances will find plenty of needs for your knowledge, skills, and problem solving. As a colleague said shortly after retiring - "I don't know how I ever found time to do a day-job".

                What has become obvious is that apparently the majority of people in the UK have no technical expertise. The "throw-away" culture means they never even look at the simplest of problems. On the other hand - much is not made to be repaired. Home car maintenance seems to be - at most - topping up the windscreen washers.

                A neighbour illustrated that yesterday. He needed a longer screw than had been supplied with some new drawer knobs. He was showing me a No 10 countersunk woodscrew - and wanted "one like this with a flat tip".

                He eventually fetched the screws that had come with the knobs. How could anyone think a No 10 countersunk wood screw was the same as an M4 flanged button head machine screw (bolt)?

                This morning he was thinking of buying inappropriate M4 countersunk Pozi screws (bolts. He didn't think the ideal ebay M4 flanged button head ones suitable - because they were Allen key rather than Pozi drives.

              2. Def Silver badge

                Re: From a bloke currently

                Well, I retire (as an engineer) in five or six weeks. I'll obviously need something to fill my time...

                How many sheds do you currently own?

                1. jake Silver badge

                  Re: From a bloke currently

                  As an almost retired engineer, he probably owns his own property ... so one correct answer could be "more than I could ever count in my lifetime" ...

                  If you want to know how many shed you own, 1 hectare = 1.0e+55 shed (or 1 acre = ~4.047e+54 shed, for the enlightened few who still farm in the English speaking world).

                  1. Ken Shabby Bronze badge
                    Mushroom

                    Re: From a bloke currently

                    What' s that barns or outhouses?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The internet is brilliant. Official.

    (body)

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge
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    Insane

    I know that someone has already made a functional 8086 in Minecraft, but this is insane.

    Brilliantly insane.

  4. Keith Langmead

    Nested minecraft

    "The virtual machine apparently runs well enough to play Minecraft"

    If you can run Minecraft with the VM, the obvious next step is building a virtual computer within the virtual minecraft, then install minecraft on that...

    1. DJV Silver badge

      Re: Nested minecraft

      Ah, turtles all the way down...

    2. logicalextreme Bronze badge

      Re: Nested minecraft

      I made my peace with simulation hypothesis a long time ago but it'd never occurred to me that we might be being simulated in fsckin' Minecraft. That puts a depressing spin on things.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Nested minecraft

        "I made my peace with simulation hypothesis a long time ago [...]"

        Any hypothesis that requires a superior being (or similar) to have created our universe - is basically "turtles all the way up". It invites infinite layers of nested creators above our universe.

        At some point the "creator" recursion argument is usually sidestepped by saying some self-verifying ideological layer above our universe "just is, always has been, ineffable". For which Occam's Razor says that our universe - and its possible alternative energy phases - "just is, always has been, ineffable" - with no creator fashioned to suit human hubris, insecurity, and ignorance.

  5. dahlellama

    Reminds me of PSDoom. http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/

    Killing processes with a BFG! ^_^

  6. Bruce Ordway

    I spent my whole quarantine working on this

    I wonder what else what might come out of this period?

    I've started working on some "projects" since the pandemic kicked in too.

    Reminds me of that famous quote "in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced..."

    1. A Nother Handle
      Coat

      Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.

      In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.

      1. mjflory

        Re: Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21h0G_gU9Tw -- at 2:37. But worth watching from the beginning.

      2. jake Silver badge

        Re: Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.

        Not even that.

        The cuckoo clock was probably invented in Germany.

      3. LDS Silver badge

        Re: Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.

        Well, at least the cuckoo clock actually works and does something useful.

        Leonardo was a sci-fi author totally lacking the mathematical and engineering skills to make his machines working. Michelangelo reached the same skills of the Greek and Roman masters of 1500 years before - so actually nothing really new.

        The whole Renaissance is over-hyped. It's people more or less understand paintings and sculptures, or Leonardo sci-fi drawings - but most of them don't understand mathematics and real science, although its true that during Renaissance ancient books with forgotten knowledge were sought and techniques re-discovered or re-imported from Arab sources.

        The real innovations came with Galileo - who built the real scientific approach and changed the world much more than Leonardo, Raffaello, and Michelangelo put together. And without Galileo understanding of the pendulum, there would have not been any cuckoo clock...

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.

          "Well, at least the cuckoo clock actually works and does something useful."

          Judging by the three that I know of which are owned by gathering dust, hanging on the walls of family members, that sentence contains two false statements.

        2. Anonymous C0ward

          Re: Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance.

          They saved the world from Shredder in every episode though.

  7. chivo243 Silver badge

    Video?

    Please? Would love to show it to my 10yr old.

    1. jake Silver badge

      Re: Video?

      A quick glance at YouTube shows a few. Obvious search terms.

  8. RM Myers Bronze badge
    Unhappy

    6502

    One of the dumbest things I ever did (and there is a lot of competition) was giving away my KIM-1 computer. My Ex gave me the standard ultimatum, me or the old computers, and I chose poorly.

    1. Mike 16 Silver badge

      Re: KIM-1

      They are apparently not all that rare. My PCB-based one came from a yard-sale, where a friend ran across it in a box of "Free items". He remembered that I had been asking for one to serve as a "second witness" while reviving my wire-wrap one and grabbed it for me.

      My Jolt, OTOH, was not so lucky. Stored in a shed, it succumbed to some chickens that had flown the coop and decided that shed was a great new clubhouse, and the Jolt an acceptable "litter-box" or whatever euphemism chickens use.

    2. jake Silver badge

      Re: 6502

      I have a double-handful of unassembled KIM-1 kits. Used to find 'em for 50 cents or a buck at garage/yard sales here in SillyConValley, back in the '90s ... at the time I was looking for old amplifier kits[0], but I usually bought early computer kits anyway.

      [0] '50s & '60s, Eico, Dynaco, Scott, Heath, McIntosh ...

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: 6502

      I had a SYM-1, which was even better, with an output you could connect to an oscilloscope etc. I foolishly left it in the loft of a house when I moved ... still regretting it

  9. FeepingCreature

    See also ComputerCraft mod https://www.computercraft.info/ and later OpenComputers https://ocdoc.cil.li/ mod. Lua-based, so less interesting, but arguably more immersive.

    If you're nostalgic for spinning-rust disk access noises, you may enjoy these mods. :)

  10. E 2

    Remember that proposition

    ...a few years back from some boffin that was might be living in a simulation running on some super-alien's super computer???

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