back to article Shocked I am. Shocked to find that underground bank-card-trading forums are full of liars, cheats, small-time grifters

The denizens of online forums dedicated to trading in stolen credit cards have been shown to be wretched hives of scum and villainy. This not-so-surprising news comes this week via academics at Washington State University (WSU) in the US, who eavesdropped on the activities of two marketplaces and read over 10,714 posts to …



    ...there ought to be a law against it.

  2. idoxde

    Colour of surprise

    Oh, dealing with thieves and, in general, criminal underworld didn't pay off? Well, colour me surprised.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Colour of surprise

      Them be racist words!

      1. logicalextreme Silver badge

        Re: Colour of surprise

        So is it "allow me to be surprised", or "block my surprise inhibitors"?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Colour of surprise

          I think it's adequate to say "I'm not racist, but colour me surprised".

      2. Bronze badge

        Re: Colour of surprise

        Hanlon's Razor. You needed this, buddy.

    2. Lee D Silver badge

      Re: Colour of surprise


      "Oh, that criminal who was going to sell me a thing to help me commit crimes actually committed fraud and took my money and didn't even give me the thing in return!"

      Oh, no. You should go to the police. Oops. You can't. Because what you wanted was illegal in the first place and you were just dropping yourself in it.

      I do wonder, though, how they paid them - presumably such payment is Bitcoin or something. I doubt a card-skimming forum would accept credit card or Paypal!

      It's like a drug dealer selling them talc. What are they going to do? Dob him in? And face a charge themselves?

      1. gnasher729 Silver badge

        Re: Colour of surprise

        People _have_ gone to the police about things like this. Like a druggy whose stash was stolen; went to the police resulting in two arrests and two convictions.

  3. Hubert Cumberdale Silver badge

    And there's another

    hoodie hacker. Like the one from Tuesday. But this one has three screens and a laptop. I have that. But no hoodie. So I guess I must be one of the good guys.

    1. Dale 3

      Re: And there's another

      Not sure why he needs to have the same code on all three screens though.

      1. BrownishMonstr

        Re: And there's another

        He's never heard of a diff.

      2. jake Silver badge

        Re: And there's another

        Look closer. It's not the same code. Could be write/compile, run/debug and stdout/stderr/other messages. Or it could be just a mock up with no bearing on reality, like that hoodie.

        The laptop probably has pr0n on it. (Mine has a browser open to ElReg, of course.)

        1. Kane Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: And there's another

          "The laptop probably has pr0n on it. (Mine has a browser open to ElReg, of course.)"

          Why not both?

      3. Bronze badge

        Re: And there's another

        Looks like Java or C#.

    2. slimshady76

      Re: And there's another

      Grey hoodie? really? Is he a newbie, or a fan of Gandalf?

    3. gnasher729 Silver badge

      Re: And there's another

      Looks like our IT guy :-)

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge


    It's nice to know that scum are also scum between themselves.

    That way they get to feel the pain.

  5. Ashto5

    Damn You Just Cannot Trust Anyone


    So Sad, those poor people just trying to buy stuff online to help themselves.

    Maybe the good guys could set up loads of boards like that and get some of the money back ??

  6. DavCrav Silver badge

    "This admin, however, regularly received payments for credential goods from users then proceeded to ban the user from the site without delivering anything."

    I'm sorry but I found that genuinely funny.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sounds like a fertile recruiting ground

    for prospective politicians.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sounds like a fertile recruiting ground

      And senior management.

  8. BrownishMonstr

    Maybe the admin is just a good guy, a cyber-age Robin Hood.

    Or just a twat.

    1. logicalextreme Silver badge

      Not necessarily mutex.

    2. logicalextreme Silver badge

      Also brings to mind the eternal HMHB lyric,

      Is your child / Hyperactive / Or is he / Perhaps a twat?

  9. c1ue

    Admin scammer

    Or maybe the admin account was cracked...

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    full of liars, cheats, small-time grifters

    This is a pretty accurate description of our local CraigsList site.


  11. 89724102172714182892114I7551670349743096734346773478647892349863592355648544996312855148587659264921 Bronze badge

    >the administrator would ban their victims accounts from the public forums if they called out the scam publicly

    Admins with a hidden agenda? Shocked I am. Shocked

    1. swm Silver badge

      I always wondered about 89724102172714182892114I7551670349743096734346773478647892349863592355648544996312855148587659264921 so (after changing the I to a 1) I found the (4) factors:

      393649 657481 × 6335 348305 575195 179179 076633 × 69466 777282 071413 430494 981273 × 51 790677 862630 192029 633722 348449

      Your welcome.

      1. jake Silver badge

        A couple years ago, I asked it if I could call it Mr/s I, but sadly it didn't respond.

  12. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

    Good Guy Scammer

    The forum admin was doing the prospective scammers a favour by preventing them from engaging in any further illegal activities.

  13. VBF

    Ronnie Barker, in "Porridge" "I don't quite know how to put this, gentlemen, but there is a thief among us."

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