Value for money? Really? How many presidents does it have now and what does each one do? No Googling. You don't know, nobody does, because they do so little of any actual value.
You obviously don't want to talk about the number of civil servants and the EU budget. The UK has almost spent the same on Brexit now than was ever paid into the EU.
Sort of like trading with the rest of the world, whose global share of GSP is growing where the rEU is shrinking fast? We can offset their costs by using a fraction of the net tariffs (absent a trade deal) to compensate their costs.
It's perfectly reasonable for British companies to trade with their neighbours, over of trade is done with the EU, and for them all that's going to happen is costs are going to go up. The whole idea is that the SM & CU don't have tariffs, and as the UK won't have deals with most countries in the world (please don't say "Go, WTO"), the tariffs for non-European countries will also be higher. So, yeah, higher tariffs all round. You won't be offsetting anything against that.
No, no you don't. You get to bully weaker trading blocks like the African Union, but you don't get to set sh*t with important parts of the world like USA or China. And for that you waste 7 years negotiating a very small trade deal with Canada, who are probably the most reasonable nation on earth. 7 years!
Do you know what Everything But Arms is? No, of course you don't. That's why you believe Africa is bullied when it's quite the opposite.
Do you know why there are no deals with USA or China deal yet? Because the EU refused to be bullied. I'm sure there will be a very quick USA-UK deal, but it won't be to the UK's advantage.
No it didn't. We joined in 1973 and the Irish were still bombing the piss out of each other and the mainland for several decades to come. Best case you could claim the rEU helped the IRA lie to themselves about already having a unified Ireland inside the rEU, but that was never true and was never going to be the case. Its just more deception.
Good Friday Agreement 'wouldn't have happened without EU' - George Mitchell
People in Northern Ireland can choose to identify as British, or Irish, or both. There is an all-island economy, so much so that you can cross the border without realising. The health service is shared. It is a region jointly administered by two countries. These are all facts.
So your view is that these only exist in the rEU? Pathetic. Truly pathetic.
No it isn't, my view is high food and environmental standards and strong consumer laws exist in the UK too. Not for long, though. By the way, equal pay for men and women was in the Treaty of Rome in 1957 whereas the UK had to wait until the Equal Pay Act 1970 as a condition of entering the EU.
Sure, go try being not white in Poland and then come back singing the praises of this.... I've had 3 different mates marry Polish girls and relocate - the white guys had no problems and were accepted into their community and workplaces. The black guy not so much - spat at in the street, regarded with suspicion, subject to hate. He had a breakdown after 18 months and came home.
Anyone would suspect Poland (and Hungary) have even more problems than the UK at the moment.
Ah, that theoretical freedom again. And yet, nobody did any of this. If we net them all up you're talking about around 500,000 people, of which more than half are retirees in Spain. British people live, work, and retire the world over - the rEU conveys no particular benefit in this regard to most people because they'll never use it. I've lived and worked in two foreign countries and found it no easier in the rEU. This is a classic example of a paper benefit - something you think you might value because you think you might use it, but you never do - sort of like the spare pack of bogrolls in the airing cupboard, no? Yeah, my wife is Swedish and unlike you I have have lived and worked there. I've lived and worked outside the rEU too.
I'm comparing and contrasting the visa process and FoM and there appears to be no basis at all to what you say, I really don't understand why you believe there is no benefit to having FoM in EU countries. Brits who try to get residency from next year onwards will be treated as third-party foreigners instead of EU citizens but I'm sure as always there will be people to who this will come as a complete surprise.
The much vaunted freedom of movement was always far more important to Europeans because they had English as a shared second language, than it ever has been for us Brits.
The fact that you're a person who considers not learning the local language is an advantage says loads.
London is France's 6th biggest city.... Paris, in terms of British population, would barely pass for an English village. Spain, where half of all British expats in the rEU reside, makes up a place about the size of Swansea by population.
I think you're comparing apples with oranges. 1.2 million Brits have taken advantage of it yet you maintain FoM apparently means nothing, yet 3 million EU citizens coming the other way (i.e. net 1.8 million influx) means Brexit must be happen.
And you'll still be allowed to retire to Spain after the transition period expires.
Pretty shitty retirement though, as the UK won't be uprating pensions for new retirees.
You don't really think that Greece offering a competitive 7% tax rate on all income if you retire there is going to refuse you right of entry?
Unfortunately UK Citizens' healthcare costs will go up over 7%... shame about that.
Freedom of movement is the biggest paper tiger you could have raised. SMH.
And yet it was the bogeyman that delivered Brexit.
Do you actually believe this stuff or are you just repeating what you read in the guardian? There's nothing at all to fear from no deal. We have no deal with America or China, and yet I type this on a Chinese keyboard, wearing American jeans and trainers, and sipping a Coke.
Things are a little more complicated than having a trade deal and not having a trade deal. The British government is seriously planning to reset the clock on all the trade agreements and deals it has and return to a state that very few countries have (basic WTO tariffs) as if it were some kind of good thing and people actually believe it. Is it unsurprising wonder the honourable member for the 18th Century said that it would take 50 years to see the benefits of Brexit.
There are none so blind as those that will not see. I know you're scared, but frankly this display of cowardice in front of the enemy is most unbecoming of an Englishman.
God help me, that there are people on this planet who post this nonsense let alone believe this it.
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