back to article Huawei's EMUI 10.1 update shows Chinese mobile giant hunkering down for the long haul without Google wares

Huawei has confirmed the rollout map for its EMUI 10.1 software, which introduces several new features including the firm's in-house Siri alternative, Celia. EMUI 10.1 first launched in March, with the release of the Huawei P40 flagship series. Starting in June, the Chinese mobile giant will start sending it out to older …

  1. Avatar of They
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    So...

    Google look to have lost China and the world has a competitor too Google?

    Good trade war so far.

    1. doublelayer Silver badge

      Re: So...

      Google already didn't have China. Pretty much every Google service is blocked in China, meaning a lot of the code Huawei is rolling out is based on code they've already written for China, one of the reasons they've managed the release so fast. Whether this builds into a competitor for Google will probably depend a lot on whether other manufacturers get the ability to use the software--Huawei on its own isn't an Apple, and probably wouldn't manage to carve a massive chunk of the market on its own hardware and software. By licensing HMS to other manufacturers though, there's a chance.

      1. DS999

        Re: So...

        But why would Huawei want to license it to other companies, rather than keeping it an exclusive to help sell their hardware?

        Phones sold in China haven't used Google services for years already and that internal market has already built up its alternatives. Where Huawei has an advantage is if they are the only Chinese company able to compete outside of China. If they license their stuff they'll have to compete in a race to the bottom with an army of no name Chinese companies willing to sell at near zero margins.

        1. The obvious

          Re: So...

          There will be plenty of value in providing those services or the all-seeing googly eye would not be interested in sharing theirs with other companies.

        2. doublelayer Silver badge

          Re: So...

          There are two approaches Huawei could take related to their licensing. First, they could do what you suggest, and use their non-Googled services framework to market their devices. This probably won't work very well--if anything in their framework breaks compatibility with Google's, people will notice and associate it negatively with their marketing. People who dislike Google may be attracted, but many won't want to have Huawei collect the data they worry about Google collecting. Meanwhile, a lot of the public won't know what the services framework is and will ignore the advertising.

          The second approach is to market the services framework to other manufacturers. These manufacturers are already competing with Huawei using Google services, and some of them (Xiaomi, Oppo, and Realme, for instance) are doing rather well at it. If some of these companies used Huawei's code instead, Huawei would have more control over competitors, would be able to license the code for a fee, might force Google to maintain compatibility with it, etc. This would be relatively invisible to most users, but Huawei could gain market power if they succeeded in convincing other companies to adopt it. I think that would be somewhat difficult, but more likely to produce benefits to Huawei than keeping it exclusive.

  2. Sparkus

    No worries. If other projects are a guide, there will be a re-unification effort in about 5 years.

    On the other paw, we already have China-specific forks of just about every other open source package. A China/CCP approved phone OS could be just what the Party ordered.......

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    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: Celia

      I'd be extremely surprised if they gave the voice of a black woman to Celia. They're Chinese, remember ?

      And the Woke movement is US-centric, which is a good thing because it is more than time to stop the long history of abuse that the US has accumulated against non-white people and women of all colors.

      But China probably looks on all that with bemusement.

  4. JDPower

    I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the P20 Pro getting 10.1, last time I checked it wasn't in the road map (hell most P20 Pros don't even have EMUI 10 yet, which month after month gets pushed back a little further)

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    Come back Moderatrix, all is forgiven.

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  7. RobThBay
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    US English?

    English vs 'merican

    Roof -> Ruff

    Turbine -> Turbin

    Been -> Bin

    Those are only a few examples of 'merican. :)

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