back to article Microsoft disbands three-ring Windows Insider circus and replaces it with 'channels'

Microsoft has announced major changes to Windows previews. The company currently operates a three-ring circus for these things, with a "fast" ring offering new-but-rough-edged code, a "slow" ring that delivers more stable builds and a "release preview" ring that delivered updates to already-live versions of Windows 10. But …

  1. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    It's just Microsoft's renam-a-thon. Though unusually, this one sort of makes sense.

    1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Agreed. Typical management-level looking busy hack. Won't actually change anything on the ground.

    2. Boothy Silver badge

      It also matches what the last client I worked for, used as their main git branch names...

      dev, beta, release

      Where...

      release is the current release, and the only changes allowed here are to merge in the next beta once confirmed it's ready for release (or the occasional hot fix if really really needed).

      beta the main next build, basically a pre-release of the next release.

      dev the latest code.

      New functionality, bugs etc would all have separate branches.

      Also all three main branches must be buildable at all times (automated build and testing of course).

    3. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Again. Except Win10 doesn't appear to be sinking. Damn.

      1. jason_derp Bronze badge

        "Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Again. Except Win10 doesn't appear to be sinking. Damn."

        That's kind of the rub, isn't it. Nobody moving those deck chairs felt too stupid pre-iceburg, that was just their job.

      2. Teiwaz Silver badge

        Except Win10 doesn't appear to be sinking

        What can you do when staff and customers are content to wade through ankle deep crud.

    4. DJV Silver badge

      Hey look!

      Shiny new name!

      (Same old bugs that never get fixed.)

    5. J. Cook Silver badge
      Coat

      I'm thinking someone in charge (HA!) finally got the circus connection and got upset...

    6. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Langowski hinted that could change, writing: "We are looking to improve this experience over time."

      Emphasis needed here,"time".

      Such a deliberately vague term, when it comes to Microsoft fixing its clunky (bag of nails) Windows Update given it's been a main topic of conversation on El Reg for decades, not just years.

      "never" would be closer.

  2. bombastic bob Silver badge
    Unhappy

    what about a channel for...

    what about a channel for things that don't go b0rk?

    1. Spanners Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: what about a channel for...

      Could be a very "relaxing" channel!

    2. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: what about a channel for...

      Easier for the devops teams I guess, never having anything to push there.

    3. J. Cook Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: what about a channel for...

      This, perhaps? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOIhM0NcHakhdBqvdrWxMBg

      (with apologies to all swedes out there)

      Oh, you wanted one that does not go b0rk... can't help you there.

  3. Wellyboot Silver badge

    Quality as a goal from MS

    We can but hope.

    Ms. Langowski, future CEO or gone by Christmas?

  4. poohbear

    aka alpha, beta and gamma.

    Dumbed down for management.

  5. BenDwire Bronze badge

    Just Maybe ...

    It's possible that someone has finally acknowledged that the quality of code actually matters. Being Agile is all well and good, but things shouldn't stay broken as badly as they often are. Let's wait and see.

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Re: Just Maybe ...

      It'll be a shallow acknowledgement at best.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I guess they had to.

    Rings relate to marriage, therefore it discriminates against single people.

    It's the way the world's going now.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I guess they had to.

      So instead 'channels' ?

      'dev' = "dire straits" ?

    2. HildyJ Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: I guess they had to.

      If they were thinking such thoughts (and who knows) I would say that fast and slow are pejoratives against differently abled people (speaking as a slow one in physical education class who was called much worse things).

    3. redpawn Silver badge

      Chaos in Middle Earth

      What will happen to the Ring Wraiths?

  7. Sparkus

    A new Windows Insider 'manager' and this is the first thing they come up with to mark their territory?

  8. Barry Rueger

    Missing ring

    Did they also rename the the end-user and retail ring, where MS products get tested in the real world, on a wide range of hardware, and is discovered to include major issues affecting thousands of users, who have long since accepted that no fix is ever coming?

  9. John Geek

    I've been trying to unsubscribe to Insider emails for a couple years now, but their unsubscribe links want me to authjenticate with a Microsoft Account, which I refuse to register for. I used to beta test their stuff eons ago, like Windows XP vintage, and quit after taht, but have stayed on their $#@$@@ email lists since.

    hopefully, they'll start over with registrations for this new 'channels' program. ya right.

  10. a_yank_lurker Silver badge

    Manglement

    The Rejects of Redmond still fail to understand they need a real, internal QA staff before the code is released to each of the groups.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    WTF? Windows Insider Pre-Release Updates for Windows 10 2004 now showing in MS Update Catalog.

    Microsoft are now mixing in "Windows Insider Pre-Release" updates into the Microsoft Update Catalog, that's not going to end well, especially if you don't realise.

    So is "still a bit wonky" Windows 10 2004 still officially Insider Preview at Microsoft, even though it's been released?

    Utterly clueless, whoever is in charge.

  12. williamj01

    It also matches what the last client I worked for, used as their main git branch names...

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