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We go back to the roots of bork today with a good, old-fashioned Blue Screen of Death, courtesy of Transport for Wales. Today's BSOD, snapped by Register reader John, is nestled neatly between a pair of screens that show what we believe are departures and arrivals from Newport Station in southern Wales. Ordinarily, the BSOD …

  1. ClockworkOwl
    Go

    Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

    Whilst I wouldn't like to have to announce the contents, I at least can understand the departure boards...

    1. Caver_Dave
      Happy

      Re: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

      Name dropper!

    2. Primus Secundus Tertius

      Re: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

      I believe it is a station between Euston (London) and Holyhead (for the ferry to Dublin). I doubt that the signage at Euston can cope with it.

      1. Martin an gof Silver badge

        Re: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

        Request stop only, last time I looked, but easily accessible and great for family photographs standing under the sign :-)

        M.

    3. GlenP Silver badge

      Re: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

      Generally listed as Llanfair PG which is much easier!

      1. jonesthechip
        Facepalm

        Re: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

        I remember driving across Anglesey in my Uni days past the bus depot on the A5 where a poor unfortunate sign-writer had ignored the 'measure twice, cut once' rule. They had started confidently painting LlanfairPwyllGwyn across the engine access panel on the rear of a bus and then had a panic attack on realizing that the remaining characters would not fit. The next few letters bunched up, but the terminating 'goch' still ended up on the main bodywork. The bus was in service for many years after that... Morale: check that your font size and kerning fits the user window before committing to a display write..

  2. N2 Silver badge
    Trollface

    Diddnt realise

    with all the stability of a journo after an hour at a free bar.

    It was as good as that.

  3. gerdesj Silver badge
    Gimp

    Llundain

    How on earth did London manage to sprout a voiceless alveolar lateral fricative? It has had names like Londinium and Lundonwic in the past but never Ll...

    1. hmv Silver badge

      Re: Llundain

      Welsh autocorrect? It was apparently "Lundein" in Old Welsh, and is probably where "Londinium" came from.

      1. Martin an gof Silver badge

        Re: Llundain

        I thought "Londinium" was Roman :-)

        In terms of use, placenames in Welsh are interesting because of mutations. "Llundain" might be the full name, but as part of a sentence the "Ll" often mutates into "L", thus "I am going to London" --> "'dw i'n mynd i Lundain". Similarly "I come from [I'm coming from] Newport" (Welsh - Casnewydd) turns into "'dw i'n dod o Gasnewydd".

        Or even more confusingly "I live in Newport" mutates in a different way, "'dw i'n byw yng Nghasnewydd".

        Don'cha love it?

        One lady does.

        Of course, half term week should be the week of the Urdd Eisteddfod. Traditionally the organisation sends a "message of peace and goodwill" around the world at the same time. This year's is a little different to the usual:

        BBC News story

        Adnoddau.

        Resources in 57 languages.

        M.

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: Llundain

          Thanks, but I'll stick with obfuscated perl ... it's much more comprehensible.

          1. jake Silver badge
            Pint

            Re: Llundain

            Apparently someone has no sense of humo(u)r ... Perhaps a beer would help?

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Llundain

          The Welsh language, keeping Wales at the bottom of the league tables.

          1. Martin an gof Silver badge

            Re: Llundain

            Oh did you have to?

            Not even worthy of a downvote.

            Definitely worthy of a late-night ramble :-)

            Here, have another silly factoid. In much the same way that English didn't always have a word for "orange" (hence the Robin is "red"), Welsh didn't always have a separate word for green. Instead the word "glas", which these days is mostly used to mean "blue", did double duty. It confuses learners when people talk of "porfa las" - no, they probably don't mean "blue pasture", they are more likely intending "verdant".

            M.

            P.S. There is quite a lot of evidence that bi- or multi-lingualism conveys cognitive benefits above and beyond the simple fact of having two languages. It does, however, have to be full bilingualism rather than the sort of second language teaching most schools in the UK practice. And it's not just the obvious candidates such as Canada where this sort of thing happens, I recently came across bilingual schools in Australia of all places. Wales is interesting because of its schools which teach through the medium of the Welsh language, even where the children attending come from English-speaking homes. You may argue that learning Mandarin or German would be more globally useful than Welsh, but the cognitive benefits accrue no matter which language is spoken.

  4. Chris G Silver badge

    Lost stations

    Bas Lag junction!

    Do they have steam driven porters to hand?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Lost stations

      Not as bad as Lost Bag junction (aka Chicago O'Hare).

    2. Martin an gof Silver badge

      Re: Lost stations

      Bassaleg, pronounced locally as "Baze-lig". Never quite understood why.

      The line is in occasional use for a quarry, but the remainder of the line, which ran from Newport to Caerphilly and Brecon was closed some time ago, with the last section - which ran to the mine and coke plant at Bedwas - turned into a cycle track.

      There are some tentative plans to re-open the line, possibly as light rail, which would make commuting from Caerphilly to Newport an awful lot easier, might make commuting to Cardiff easier (via the new Cardiff Parkway station) and would certainly help if the thousands of houses being planned, are actually built to the East of Caerphilly.

      As with elsewhere in the country, re-opened lines seem to be very much in demand. The Ebbw Vale branch, which rather inconveniently can't send trains to Newport until a junction is upgraded, has been open since shortly after the steel plant closed and has seen far higher use than initially anticipated.

      M.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Did they miss a station?

    I thought the Merioneth & Llantisilly Railway Traction Company Ltd. had a line near there. Fond memories...

    1. Martin an gof Silver badge

      Re: Did they miss a station?

      Nah, despite Oliver Postgate's distinctly "valleys" accents, the M&LRTCLtd was based in "the top left-hand corner of Wales" IIRC.

      M.

  6. stevebp

    Newport is not all that

    I visit Newport at least four times a year and I can't say it's the most inspiring of architectures. Particularly in windy conditions, the draughts running through the concourse turn even the most summery of days into wind chill factor -10

    1. Martin an gof Silver badge

      Re: Newport is not all that

      I visit Newport station on a fairly regular basis and used to before the new terminal. The new building is cold and draughty at the best of times, let alone the platforms themselves. To be honest, I preferred the old layout, but the worst part with the new layout? There are no short-term parking bays around the back. The car park at the rear is large (well, not at the moment but that's another story) and easily accessible if you know which road to go down but it's long-term pay-and-display only, except for a couple of drop-off bays.

      The free short-term bays are around the "front", so if I'm picking someone up I can pull in and wait for up to 20 minutes, even smile nicely at the person on the gate and help carry bags, but the front is in the middle of a 20mph one-way system and while from my direction getting in is almost as easy as getting to the back, getting back out again involves about a half a mile around the one-way system, crossing the same two pedestrian crossings twice (once in each direction) and navigating a roundabout where you have to stay hard right to get where I need to go, but the lane markings don't make that at all obvious, so there are always traffic conflicts, cars ending up in the bus lane, or unintentionally heading for a car park.

      And you don't get to walk into the station past the slightly unusual sculpture.

      M.

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