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The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has achieved a 100 Mbps ethernet connection from the International Space Station to earth, using lasers! The feat was accomplished using a widget called SOLISS - the Small Optical Link for International Space Station – that went aloft in late 2019 and was then installed on Japan’s …

  1. STOP_FORTH Silver badge
    Happy

    What can possibly go wrong?

    As long as ICANN and all the usual gang are administering everything we should be fine. I bet Disney will get the .plu domain. I'd like .ear and .moo if that's alright with everybody else? .eur will automatically 404!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      ACT NOW!

      Block ICANN!

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: What can possibly go wrong?

      I see that the Milky Way .mil TLD has been conquered by some sort of benign organization with Space Corps. (Space Marines?)

    3. HildyJ Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: What can possibly go wrong?

      For security reasons this will be managed by the US and Russian space forces.

  2. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
    Boffin

    Firing lasers at the ISS?? I sure hope they've set them to 'stun' otherwise they might blow it up.

  3. Oliver Mayes

    Can't wait for the inevitable "Sexy women in LOW EARTH ORBIT are waiting to talk to you!"

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Sexy FAST women in low earth orbit.

      1. Kane Silver badge

        "Sexy FAST women in low earth orbit."

        Sexy HYPER-SPEED women in Lagrange Point orbit are just waiting for YOU NOW!

        1. Sandtitz Silver badge

          "Can you find one of my many Lagrange points? Space Babes are waiting."

        2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

          triple-breasted whore of Eroticon Six in Lagrange Point orbit are just waiting for YOU NOW!

        3. HildyJ Silver badge
          Pint

          Where do I sign up for the Tit(an) domain?

    2. GrahamRJ

      Unless they've got transparent space suits, there's not going to be a right lot to see.

      1. Francis Boyle Silver badge

        Not a problem

        Their space suits are of course designed by the same people who do the female armour for fantasy games.

  4. Schultz Silver badge
    Boffin

    Nice technology

    But for space-to-space communication, they should find a better compromise between sender and receiver size. Adding 1 m receiver telescopes to satellites sounds like an expensive proposition and might not be competitive with simple radiowave antennas. Having a 1 m telescope on earth is, of course, much simpler.

    In the end, lasers will only be superior if you require the spatial collimation of the laser beam for directional transmission. This comes with a cost because modulating signals onto a laser beam is rather inefficient as compared to transmitting the same signal directly through an antenna. It'll be interesting to see where this technology goes. On earth, laser communication has been proposed many times -- but real-life applications seem rare.

    1. STOP_FORTH Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: Nice technology

      If you exclude every fibre-optic link on the planet, I suppose laser communication is quite rare.

      1. tip pc Silver badge

        Re: Nice technology

        i've a pile of rare gbics in my draw, witnessed hundreds of new still wrapped in plastic tossed into the skip when the old office closed too.

        I had no idea how rare they where. will i get a pay rise if i let my bosses know i'm working with rare kit?

        1. Flak

          Re: Nice technology

          Must have been generic ones, rather than vendor SFPs which would have 'cost the earth'...

    2. Flak

      Re: Nice technology

      I suspect you meant free space optics (FSO), i.e. firing laser beams for communication through the air.

      It is available, used and can provide high capacity links, but it is very susceptible to weather (fog, rain, snow, even heat), particularly as the distance increases, meaning that other technologies are far more common. Today, E-band and V-band point to point radio links are relatively inexpensive and typically perform better, and with more and more fibre becoming available, fixed line connections increasingly substitute wireless technology for longer distance communications.

      1. GrahamRJ

        Re: Nice technology

        The point for space applications of course is that there isn't a lot of fog, rain and snow out there. It's less of a demonstrator for an Earth-to-satellite link, and more for higher-bandwidth links to, say, Mars or the Moon.

        1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge
          Boffin

          Re: Nice technology

          Agreed, though earth to anywhere still has to get out of the atmosphere.

          Radio link to a satellite relay station to minimise disruptions from weather, with tight-beam laser link to moon/Mars/wherever seems a better choice. Allowing for chance occlusions by passing satellite/debris/asteroids/etc.

          But what do I know? I'm no ---->

      2. swm Silver badge

        Re: Nice technology

        They actually set up a laser link between two buildings at Xerox PARC (I think in the 1970's). When there was fog the beam was visible and freaked out drivers driving under the beam.

    3. Cynic_999 Silver badge

      Re: Nice technology

      If you mean free-air laser communications, probably not as rare as you think. My company had two buildings on opposite sides of a main road, and we connected their LANs together via a laser link on each roof. Far more practical & cheaper than putting a wire over or under the road, and proved to be very reliable. Our link was over just a few 100 meters, but I believe the stated range of the units was 5km (line of sight, obviously). I have seen quite a few examples of the same thing once I started looking. It's frequently used between buildings on a campus or industrial estate as a cable link would exceed the max ethernet cable length and also require expensive digging to lay a duct.

      Many short range ad-hoc military communications are done via free-air laser links (vehicle to vehicle or ship to ship for example), as a tight laser beam cannot be intercepted or jammed.

      1. Wellyboot Silver badge

        Re: Nice technology

        The lack of jamming (as opposed to just blocking the beam) in space is less of an issue, lasers allow bandwidth across frequencies to be used more than once at the same time not very far apart (at orbital distances) without interference.

        For comms between the inner planets latency variation is going to be measured in tens of minutes over the distances involved and there will be a need for relays for when the LOS gets a bit close to that large bright object in the middle of our solar system.

        1. E 5

          Re: Nice technology

          Big difference between experiencing interference and being jammed. (Old Crow here) Interference is incidental/accidental disruption of your signal by noise (actual random noise or someone else's coherent signal) from one or more natural or generated source(s), jamming is a deliberate disruption of your signal by an adversarial actor. Some of the same methods are used for mitigation: other, more technical and/or nuanced, methods are needed to counter jamming.

          1. Jaybus

            Re: Nice technology

            Difficult to jam laser comms. Typically, a CW laser diode is modulated by varying the current of its power supply. A modulation signal will be generated digitally and a DAC and amplifier will be used to drive the modulation of the current source. An optical notch filter allows a narrow range of wavelengths through to the detector. A high speed ADC directly converts the received signal to a digital signal, then a FPGA performs mixing and filtering mathematically. A QAM modulation scheme is typical. A sideband control channel would likely use a PSK modulation and could easily be used to switch carrier frequency at random.

            A CW light source would show up as a DC offset, so a CW jamming signal would have to be intense enough to saturate the detector. Since the sun can't even do that, we can rule that one out. The jammer would need to know the precise wavelength and carrier frequency and would have to be able to decrypt the control signal to detect carrier frequency changes.

        2. Cuddles Silver badge
          Coat

          Re: Nice technology

          "there will be a need for relays for when the LOS gets a bit close to that large bright object in the middle of our solar system."

          They just need to make sure they only communicate at night.

      2. Giles C Bronze badge

        Re: Nice technology

        I used it between two buildings because they only put one duct in when the built the second site, only problem was the fixed link failed and it was running on the laser. Nobody had noticed and we got a day of freezing fog, when refracted the beam so it couldn’t reach the other side.

        We had to go over to the site and when we got there you couldn’t see either building from the road (60 feet from the kerb).

        I recently put a point to point radio in for another site and these days it is a lot more reliable and just as fast

    4. Francis Boyle Silver badge

      Re: Nice technology

      I'm not sure where you're getting the 1m figure from. According to the graphic the 1m telescope is on the ground and the unit on the ISS has an aperture of roughly 50mm. I assume the system is reversible (I can't see why it wouldn't be) so the larger unit will always be on Earth.

  5. tip pc Silver badge

    Elon has the ISS covered

    I’m sure the ISS will be able to hook into star links backhaul and gain global coverage and higher bandwidth before Sony get their toy working globally for ISS.

    Or did someone watch that awful brad pit AdAstra movie and decide they needed to build an encrypted laser link so they can go to Mars and then send a live encrypted voice laser communication to the outer solar system? Not sure it was worth the journey or the lives lost along the way to send a voicemail.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Internet in Space?

    I pretty sure I recall many years ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth we all thought this new USENET thing was a neat idea, someone issued one of the traditional Apr 1 spoof RFC's (hopefully issued via kremvax!) proposing an extenstion of the domain naming system to add an extra level of domains above the .com/.net/.edu/.org/country level to indicate the planet where the domain was based (or orbiting) along with rules for how subdomain levels would be added for moons, what the criteria for asteroids (nb this was before the "is Pluto really a planet" debate!) having domains would be and how domains of spacecraft were handled. So, I think all the relevant preparatory work is in place.

  7. deive

    Epic, and to think when discovered/invented no-one knew what to do with them :-)

    1. STOP_FORTH Silver badge

      They had to destroy all those razor blades somehow.

  8. Dan 55 Silver badge

    What's the Wi-Fi speed of a unladen ISS?

    If we believe Quora then it could be 128Kbs or 10Mbs so I'm still none the wiser.

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: What's the Wi-Fi speed of a unladen ISS?

      African or European?

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    On Earth too!

    Check out the CanoBeam.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ronja

    Many years back there was a community driven project to do ethernet over visible laser. ISTR it topped out at 10Mb/s and about 30km, but is this not just the same with more powerful lasers and better trained sharks?

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Re: sharks with fickin' "lasers"

      Better find some megalodon DNA. Show me a modern shark that can take a 1m telescope assembly...

      1. Bob7300

        We're gonna need a bigger shark...

        Whale Shark?

  11. ColonelClaw

    I bet the sysadmin for the Japanese module has suddenly and unexpectedly found him/herself to be the most popular person on the ISS.

    "$1000 for the wifi password, did you say?"

  12. Version 1.0 Silver badge
    Alien

    Maybe the ISS is only a short range?

    We developed the tech for laser-disks at 1mm distances and now we've reached the ISS ... meanwhile we've been listening for alien radio communications for years and we have heard nothing - maybe we should be looking instead of listening?

  13. Duncan Macdonald Silver badge

    High speed - BUT

    This only works when the ISS is in line of sight with the ground station. Give the ISS orbit this will only provide communications for a few minutes a day (like some broadband providers !!!) . A better communication path might be via the Starlink communication satellites.

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