back to article As nice as Pai: FCC chairman comes out in favour of Ligado Networks' 5G proposal, despite criticism from airlines and military

Ligado Networks, which is currently seeking approval for a terrestrial low-power 5G network, has won a powerful friend: Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chief Ajit Pai. The US industry watchdog has circulated a draft letter asking individual FCC members to approve the firm's plans, with "stringent" conditions attached …

  1. IGotOut Silver badge

    Who needs Huawei....

    when you have the corrupt FCC taking down the military.

    Still, at least it's US money.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Who needs Huawei....

      Famous story about Cray being given a hard time by a customer:

      You aren't our only fscking customer you know.

      True, but we are the only one with nuclear strike capabilities

  2. Chris G

    Pai paid per pie?

    See title.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If the lockdown goes on much longer, American industry will have to start laying off members of Congress and the Senate.

    1. jason_derp

      "If the lockdown goes on much longer, American industry will have to start laying off members of Congress and the Senate."

      Nah, they'll find a way to pass a bill to pay them out with cold hard cash so that they can continue doing the important work of passsing bills to pay them out in cold hard cash.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    F*** the f-ing military.

    F*** the military.

    If anyone in the f-ing world came up with something that would destroy every piece of tech the US military has today, I'd go buy stock in it right the f*** now.

    F** our troops. F*** the orange sh*tgibbon.

    That said, I'd prefer not to interfere with non-military aircraft radar. That's actually kind of important.

    Military? Let the f***ing scumbags crash and f***ing die.

    1. batfink

      Re: F*** the f-ing military.

      Reg Rant Score: 93/100.

      Points deducted for asterisks. Further points deducted for inconsistent use of asterisks and dashes.

      However, a fair attempt. Please take note for further improvement.

      1. Commswonk

        Re: F*** the f-ing military.

        However, a fair attempt. Please take note for further improvement.

        You forgot the See Me.

    2. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      Re: F*** the f-ing military.

      Rabid yet curiously self-censoring at the same time. That takes some effort.

      So, is it just the US military you f***ing hate, or all militaries?

      And you realise of a lot of civilian infrastructure depends on those same miltary technologies you'd like to see crushed? GPS ain't just for positioning. A boatload of things use it for timings in everyday life.

  5. TheRealRoland

    William Barr and Pai worked together at Verizon. Barr worked for a legal company that represented Lightsquared, now known as Ligado. So while DOJ may have objections, Barr will overrule those objections and push this through. Simple as that.

    1. Jimmy2Cows Silver badge

      This just gets better and better.

    2. Youngone Silver badge

      Barr will overrule those objections and push this through.

      He might try, but the various groups doing the complaining have cleverly invoked the SPAAAACE FOOOORCE so maybe Barr will be overruled in turn.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "with "stringent" conditions attached"

    Does the flow of bulging brown envelopes count as a "stringent" condition?

  7. Will Godfrey Silver badge


    Is there anything at all in America that isn't going rapidly in a downward direction?

    I wouldn't mind (apart from the harm to my friends over there) but it screws up everyone else.

  8. DanceMan

    The US industry watchdog

    The US industry lapdog

    Fixed it for you.

    1. Fatman

      Re: The US industry watchdog

      <quote>The US industry lapdog</quote>

      More like "The US industry ass kisser".

  9. rcxb

    "it is time for the FCC to make a decision and bring this proceeding to a close," wrote Pai

    The FCC did make a decision... Back in 2012. The answer was: NO

    1. tip pc Silver badge

      “ The FCC did make a decision... Back in 2012. The answer was: NO”

      Yes but new info has come to light, and on that basis.............

      You get where this is going, it’s a done deal unless pai is overridden

  10. MachDiamond Silver badge

    Getting Pai'd

    As corrupt seeming as Pai's edicts look, it really shouldn't be all that hard to see where the bribes are coming from if anybody cared to look into it. He is NOT managing the spectrum and telecommunication policies in the favor of the American public.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Getting Pai'd

      You could argue his predecessors didn’t either.

      Not just in America but regulators and officials the world over abuse their oversight and positions for their own gains.

      See Mobmentum for how they did that for a uk political party.

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      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Getting Pai'd

        See the look on Stephen Kinnocks face when he realised Theresa Maybe hadn't won the 2017 election.

        It turns out the worst problem the Labour party has is actually the Labour party. The various groups trying to bring it away from being the diet coke tory party have never been the problem, its the politicians who were more intrested in personal power over getting the Labour party in power.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Real men do real damage

    It isn't real predatory capitalism if you don't harm somebody.

    Your profit-making must harm as many innocent people as possible, with bonus points for lasting damages and loss of life.

    Else you're just a wimpy commie, and one thing you can't call Pai is "wimpy commie".

  12. Henry Wertz 1 Gold badge

    99.3% reduction in power?

    99.3% reduction in power? Per Google, they've reduced the power they are looking for from like 1585 watts to 10 watts. 1585 watts seems like a lot of power, and 10 watts seems rather low for anything with more range than a microcell.

    1. low_resolution_foxxes

      Re: 99.3% reduction in power?

      4G is usually max 1W, typically much lower. Although for comparison a microwave is 1kW.

  13. Tom 35

    "has won a powerful friend: Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chief Ajit Pai."

    Won? He's bought and payed for.

  14. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    "Consequently, every satellite-based location technology [..] uses the L-Band"

    So it's a done deal. And with the cretins in all the right places, there will be no opposition. Ask Trump to stop it ? Are there still people who do not understand that Trump will never stop money, especially buddy money, and even more so if he can get a cut ?

    So it'll happen. Ligado Networks poisonous 5G technology is going to be implemented, and then what ? People will complain that their GPS doesn't work. People never care about much, but when they are personally inconvenienced, that changes and the dial can get cranked up rather high.

    Ligado Networks is going to find itself under fire from the popular opinion, and there's no one to bribe there. GPS is not new tech, it is firmly entrenched. People have been using it for years and know how it works and, more importantly, that it works. To have a 5G antenna and suddenly no more GPS is a coincidence people are going to notice, and people will get mad about it.

    You're not going to convince a red-blooded American consumer that his GPS needs to replaced when he bloody well knows that it is not his GPS that has a problem.

    I'm beginning to think that Ligado Networks has not thought this whole thing through.

  15. big_D Silver badge

    Says it like...

    make more efficient use of underused spectrum and promote the deployment of ... and Internet of Things services."

    He says that, like it is a good thing...

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