back to article Everything OK down there in the Oracle trench? Good. Big Red has a cloud-based data science platform for you

After securing a lofty position in enterprise applications and databases, Oracle has fixed its eyes on data science. And though analysts have expressed doubt about whether Big Red is producing technologies new to the field, its shiny Cloud Data Science Platform might appeal to those already heavily invested in Oracle's software …

  1. Korev Silver badge
    Boffin

    I remember when Oracle made a big fuss about implementing the BLAST bioinformatics tools into Oracle 10G; it was then dropped quietly in 11G. I hope these tools are supported for longer!

  2. TVU

    "Big Red is producing technologies new to the field, its shiny Cloud Data Science Platform might appeal to those already heavily invested in Oracle's software"

    ...and to those not yet already heavily invested in Oracle's software, do not even think of even going there for you will be fleeced/threatened/sued/all three.

  3. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Coat

    Oracle Cloud Infrastructure Data Science

    And nobody at Oracle has thought of calling that ORCIDS ?

    Or are they waiting to add something and call it Oracle Cloud Hypervisor Infrastructure Data Science ?

    ORCHIDS. Come on, it's basically begging to happen.

    1. Sandtitz Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure Data Science

      Wouldn't just ORC be a great name for this...beast?

      I had an Orchid EGA adapter about 35 years ago. It's too early to re-use the name.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    >So why favour full Hadoop integration?

    The answer is simple, but wonky. "Hadoop" as an ecosystem encompasses quite a bit more than just the venerable Apache Hadoop. A modern data scientist operating at scale expects to have a full toolkit available, including multiple storage options, a schema store, schedulers, record readers/writers, feature dictionaries, provenance repos and so on. They will expect it all to work naturally with both cloudy and on-premises technology flavours. Oracle knows that if they just sold Oracle tools, they'd all stop being used as soon as someone found out you're expected to re-write all your data into an Exadata-on-cloud (and all the cost that entails). They have to be able to talk to S3 or ADLS2 or GCS. They have to be able to interchange data at no cost. They have to be able to share with tools outside of Big Red's core portfolio. Unfashionable they may be, but the Hadoop ecosystem projects has been doing that for donkeys years now.

    That last point is telling: "The Oracle platform can query object storage, but the vendor doesn't make clear whether it ingests data into object storage directly in the new data science platform."

    The Hadoop tech sitting alongside the big red bits allow the users to pretend the Oracle bits don't exist without the entire sale being invalidated. It's there to let them tick many, many boxes on RFPs they otherwise would not.

  5. HildyJ Silver badge
    Holmes

    Prediction

    Oracle will offer a number of free APIs to ease the process which, if they gain traction, will be declared proprietary.

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