They're looking for cheap tech support but are too shy to say so.
The UK's National Crime Agency has publicly distanced itself from a poster urging parents to call police if their child has installed Kali Linux, Tor or – brace yourself – Discord. Issued by the West Midlands Regional Organised Crime Unit (WMROCU) via local area councils, the poster in question lists a slack handful of common …
Actually, my son has nearly every one of those tools on his computer, I know about it, and commend him for it.
He's actually taking courses at the local community college on network security and computer administration, as well as being a devout gamer so if he didn't have those on his computer, I'd be upset.
If a kid is competently sharpening a bread knife they are to be commended for excellent skill. Bread knives are serrated causing a sharpening challenge. Ironically the better quality knives with bigger serrations are easier to sharpen than cheap ones.
But then that’s how it as the bottom of many cutting tools. Buy a plastic handled hardpoint hand saw and throw it away when it gets blunt since you can’t resharpen it anyway.
Also a bread knife would make a TERRIBLE serial killer tool. Aside from being useless for stabbing and for slashing work it would get stuck. Really only useful for dismembering the body though a green wood saw (a metal frame saw, big teeth) or a heavy cleaver would be better. I have both and my cleaver is deathly sharp as well. I have a really good quality bread knife too inherited from the eldest’s chef partner. I sharpened it.
BTW the curve on the cleaver blade and the sharpness means it’s excellent for chopping herbs holding the blade rather than the handle. I probably use it more for that than dismembering dead things.
BTW the curve on the cleaver blade and the sharpness means it’s excellent for chopping herbs holding the blade rather than the handle. I probably use it more for that than dismembering dead things.
But.. Arent't the herbs rather dead once you've harvested them, and isn't the act of chopping them up dismembering them?
"Arent't the herbs rather dead once you've harvested them"
No. Most herbs stay alive for quite awhile after harvesting, and can easily be rooted to clone the original plant.
Incidentally, if you prefer the rocking action for chopping herbs, look into purchasing a mezzaluna, an Italian tool which is designed for just that. You might also find it under it's French name, hachoir. They sell 'em in one, two and three blade versions, but I only use the single bladed one for ease of sharpening and cleanup.
you realise that you're not the norm right?
It's like seeing a Russian with a base-ball bat, that country sells maybe 5 base-balls a year, a few of them might be carrying it for playing with.....
TBH with this I wonder what they wanted to do. Like if you rang up with "my child uses Virtualbox" what happens next?
Watchlist? = bad
shitty presentation on why computer crime is bad -maybe (bad=anti-piracy style, some warnings like "you're probably not good enough to cover your tracks" maybe wouldn't hurt)
Lack of formal computer science is part (IMhumbleO) why modern software is so shit.
That could be a good thing?
The poster doesn't make it clear what their intentions are. But if parents cannot warn or caution kids maybe someone should.
I can kinda see why virtualbox is on there. It is handy to erase or rollback an entire machine, if the host is windows and you gotta keep that on there I totally get it. I will admit "WTF to Discord"
I urge you lot to remember that there are false positives for things. Like Russians and having baseball bats, circa 5-10 of them may use it to hit baseballs.
I have just spent days teaching my eldest daughter (aged 12) how to use Kali with Metasploit and Postgres to run PenTests on websites. I suppose now I should teach her something boring like Python, although judging from that advert I suspect I could be arrested for encouraging a 12 year old to play with snakes.
I might add that a 12 year old girl just pen-tested a local estate agent in Chichester, demonstrated where there were fixable failings in their Response Headers and where there were injectable breaches in their Wordpress CMS WYSIWYG fields.
They have offered her £1000 to fix their website.
I am one very happy and very proud father indeed, so kindly take note West Midlands anti-internet police force.
Even if these tools were totally illegal use then it would still be immoral to call the police on your child. At least talk to them about it and see if you can resolve it without calling the cops.
Typical police though, want people to snitch to give them some easy arrests.
I'm 68 and I use Kali, it's a great operating system and fun when I have to go to the doctors office and sit in the waiting room for an hour or too. The literature out there tells you that, as you age, doing things with you brain is very helpful - sure, I like crossword puzzles and Scrabble but playing Kali is much more fun.
Oh crap! Sir, do you realise you just raised the alert level to RED for our defenders of public safety and well-being?!
WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO? Now we don't have to only fight those pesky, rebellious, nonconformist youngsters, but even our pensioners, who turn out to wear hoodies in the homes for the elderly, outside the range of our facial recognition cameras (*OS* Hello!), conspiring on the DarkNet!
I'm not a junior and I'd be in deep do-do with the list presented there, as would my 13yo granddaughter who knows how to spin up a VM because I've shown her how to. At least I'm not in the West Midlands.
At the latest count there are 5 VirtualBox VM's on my home PC and 4 KVM VM's on my laptop
I am. Running a bunch of different OS in 4 Hyper-V VMs on my work machine here at home. Does that make me some kind of subversive deviant? (Feelings about Hyper-V aside).
Granted that's not the same master-criminal league as you, though. I bow to your evil genius.
You'll learn a lot. But the poster they released is excellent evidence that shows why the police are incompetent at catching hackers, malware delivery and bank fraudsters. They simply have no idea about the difference between bad actors and modern technology.
I probably won't: I've slightly lost count of the Linux VMs I have currently, and I suspect I'm not interested enough in the details of the sorts of thing Kali lets you do to spend much time on it, even if I should be.
But the point is: I have it now, and I bet a lot of people (children even) also have copies who otherwise would not have done.
And a lot of the "girls in blue" are busy suffering varying levels of sexual harassment / discrimination from some of the "boys in blue".
This comes from someone who knows several (ex) "girls in blue" that quit due to the toxic environment faced as a woman (& was even worse for the non white woman I knew who quit)
There are of course exceptions. I know first hand from two serving female officers and one of my best female friends who has recently retired from the force,they are far more likley to use the word "opportunities" rather than harrassment. Couple of weeks back, the youngest of them was quite openly laughing about it.
I don't think that we can blame the police for being underfunded, overworked and unsupported by the Tory government austerity program for the last 10 years. The utter lack of support for the police by the Tories is just an attempt to keep the crime rate up so that the Tories get reelected by claiming to be the law and order party - fact is they are the boor and order lunch party.
"This may well have come from a civilian member of staff."
Who may have been a police officer working in the back room - who was "let go" as part of cuts. Then re-employed after the minimum statutory waiting time - as a civilian to fill the same role. Makes sense - they have the legal background and the institutional "close ranks" ethos.
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When I was younger I had a beaten up old Ford Cortina. Presumably as someone somewhere had also once used one in a bank robbery then that model of car should have been banned or confiscated as well?
Whatever next in the UK... reporting our neighbours for harbouring Jews?
How can you be far from the sea in Blighty? Is there a single point in the UK that is more than 70 kilometers (call it 45 miles) from a body of water that experiences ocean tides? From here to Bodega Bay is about that, and I go there for lunch fairly often ...
Ta for the name. A little poking around turns up this link (BBC, SFW) from 17 years ago.
That's entirely too close for my initial estimate to be nothing more than a WAG ... I must have read it somewhere and my lizard hind-brain dredged it out of the depths. What is it that they say is the first thing to go?
Back when we lived in London one of the porters in the institute told us how it was when he used to get stopped and often arrested for ‘Driving while Irish’. For obvious economic reasons he drove an old banger and would often be pulled over for checks on it and as soon as he opened his mouth it was ‘step out of the car NOW’.
On a couple of occasions he was whisked off to the nick for questioning with his car, keys in the ignition (no he could not claim them and lock his vehicle) left on the side of the road.
And of course the full story: https://web.archive.org/web/20190721034849/http://www.adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html
8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?
BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called " xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone.
Your son may try to install " lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional.
If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.
They have a lot to catch up on.
As it happens, ROCUWM are recruiting. Linux is significantly absent from a list of required skills that does, however include:
Highly competent in the use of Microsoft packages, advanced skills in Microsoft Excel
so at least we know how reliable the crime statistics will be. The successful applicant will also be expected to have experience of working with covertly obtained products, though, so perhaps Microsoft need to do a licence audit...
There's another counter terrorism job on offer which says the force aims to maximise the potential of people from all backgrounds through a culture of fairness and inclusion and immediately after that marriage to, or cohabitation with, a person who isn't a British citizen after appointment may, in some circumstances, result in the withdrawal of security clearance and ... dismissal. Cognitive dissonants welcome, presumably.
Every day I despair a little more.
Given that in the USA (at least) applicants to be plods can be rejected for doing too well on a test, I am not that surprised.
I started out doing machine code and assembly (it simply doesn't get lower level than that) and I would expect this lot to consider someone who understands the internal operation of microprocessors in great detail to be a threat to be reported.
So if the kids have microcontroller starter kits (great for learning about the internals) are they to be reported as well?
I sense an ID ten T error here.
I also share your despair over completely uneducated idiots trying to make themselves look as if they actually know something; in this case they have just shown the world just how stupid they really are.
A soldering iron? Luxury! We used wirewrap and relays ... and we liked it! It was an upgrade from the beads on sticks that out forefathers used. Try telling that to kids today ...
The funny thing about the above paragraph is that it's actually true :-)
My transistor radio kit in 1961 was supplied with 8BA nuts and bolts to connect wires and components together. No breadboard - either figurative or literal. Then I progressed to soldering - heating the large copper tip in the living room's coal fire.
I'm unfamiliar with the concept of "unsafe convictions" which appears in the first sentence of the linked Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_failed_and_overturned_convictions_involving_the_West_Midlands_Serious_Crime_Squad). Does that refer to a guilty verdict for someone who has the wherewithal to do harm to the judge/jurors? I figure it's a product of the British Orwellian Government Uninformed justice System (BOGUS) but my lack of familiarity with your culture forces me to ask.
It refers to a small number of convictions where the West Midlands Serious Crime squad obtained a false confession from somebody after their arrest
This was strictly against their normal policing procedure - which was to write a confession first and then arrest somebody of the appropriate colour later
Why Not? Key Management Skill is to have minions beat the crap* out of any given dataset and distill everything into one PowerPoint slide with five PKI-Wheels on, where Three of them Shall BE Green!
The task is not dissimilar to producing an Illuminated Manuscript - except the durability of the modern version is much lower!
*) Complex == Crap, Data that goes against 'The Truth' == Crap!
Fantastic, I need a copy of this poster to put up at home so I can point to it when my Discord using teenager is being a pain in the ass. Seriously though, I do wish my boy knew how to use all of these off his own back, I'd be quite proud. Unfortunately past gaming he doesn't take an interest.
You never know: People can do a lot of supposedly very hard things if the motivation is there.
My young teenage son and his slacker friends had a period where they were busy building levels for CounterStrike, managing to use the swine of a compiler which came as part of the development kit (which ONLY a developer would love). None of that lot had any ideas of computer programming or SDK's but they could do program and compile levels because they wanted to game hard enough.
So, let's see...
I'm with AAISP, so static IP's and an unfiltered internet connection...
I've got various VPN accounts and Tor on at least one machine...
I've got multiple VM's including Kali...
I use encryption at rest and in transit...
That probably makes me a criminal mastermind in their eyes, and only missing a dormant volcano hideout or a Legion of Doom.
Icon, because even a fictitious Victorian detective would have more luck finding real cybercriminals.
"I'm with AAISP, so static IP's and an unfiltered internet connection..."
AAISP advise their customers that they cannot guarantee that their bulk link supplier is not snooping up-stream. Also their lawyers have advised them against a canary tactic if they are ever coerced to permit monitoring.
Consequently they advise you should take end-to-end security measures.
Indeed, they're one of the few ISP out there that still treats their customers like adults - but that also means you have to take responsibilty for your own security and not rely on them to look after you,
I like that, because it means I can choose and use my own router/firewall to protect myself, and not rely on a some cheap, nasty ISP-supplied device.
"What have I become?!!!"
If you calmly grab yourself by the scruff of the neck, take yourself to the nearest Police station and hand yourself in.
With good behaviour, you'll probably just spend a weekend in the holding cells until someone works out why you're there on Monday and tells you to go home. At worst, the may assume you have some sort of mental illness and make you a white van driver.
is this your cat ?
No - I don;t have any red cats. (Or Red Hats).
(I do have one full ginger, one ginger-'n-white, one calico and one tortie though. And two blacknesses and a lone brown-tabby-and-white. I keep telling t'missus that we are missing a few colour combinations and we need to get more cats but she just keeps telling me that we have enough cats. As if that's a thing!)
...Why not both!?
Him indoors christened the drop-forged carving knife and meat chopper he bought for me "murder weapon" and "skull splitter" respectively. I suppose I should let up on the hints that I'd really like a hot composter for my birthday...
I'm sorry, but there is not number to call. I can't call 112 or 999 because I'll get bollocking (and rightly) so. And I can't be arsed to wait 30 min or more on a 12 p per minute non-emergency number. These are the only two options to call police in the UK in 2020. Oh, well, I guess there are some "police" numbers (most probably outsourced) that deal with rape, terrorism, domestic violence, etc. On the other hand tor = piracy = terrorism...
...some of which can be used for both legal & illegal purposes,"
So almost any software development tools are right out then, as they could be used to create all manner of nefarious tools.
Or yet another calculator app.
"Tools" could even apply in a literal sense to things like screwdrivers and hammers. If my kids can use a screwdriver to open a PC case and change a graphics card (they can), should I also assume they will go and commit an assault with it as well?
Here I am living in the West Midlands. But I am reading a news item that a judge just smacked down coppers for interfering with freedom of speech, by interrogating somebody who is alleged to have tweeted criticisms of certain rainbow gender stuff, and remarking "In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society." Can it be that reporting and interrogating those who download and install perfectly legal software might fall under the same cloud?
Parts of Lincolnshire are relatively well known for existing in a parallel universe. The one you mention is presumably one where these words were never uttered by a very senior judge:
"Just consider the course of events if their action were to proceed to trial… [...] If they won, it would mean that the police were guilty of perjury; that they were guilty of violence and threats; that the confessions were involuntary and improperly admitted in evidence; and that the convictions were erroneous… That was such an appalling vista that every sensible person would say, ‘It cannot be right that these actions should go any further’.”
Can you tell who it is yet?
From the BBC : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-51501202
Interestingly, the Judge also stated that whilst the investigation itself was unlawful, the police were justified in RECORDING his tweets as being a hate incident. From a complaint made by a single person.
Shame, as i quite liked his mammal, fish comment.
Having now seen a follow-up news report I should just like to make it clear that I do not endorse ignorant, bigoted and nasty-minded twerps in any way, shape or form, I just don't think they should have their human rights abused any more than their hate targets should.
What's scary at times is that even pathological cretins like Farrage and Ree-Smogg may say something sensible and reasonable on occasion. Obviously it neither validates nor justifies the vile bile that they come out with normally but if one's stomach is up to it, it's worth listening just in case there is a valid point, or a point of view, to consider.
Except Trump, of course. Trump is purely about Trump and nothing else. :)
I expect you will be hard pressed to find a single company that doesn't run virtual machines (locally or in the cloud); has a VoIP based phone system; uses PEN testers who use such Kali and Metasploit. I expect that some even have peer to peer messaging like Skype, Slack and Teams (rather than Discord)
What a bunch of muppets. It makes you wonder where they are getting their guidance from. I just hope they are not paying for it.
Given that they seemed not to have had permission to use the other logo maybe they just right-clicked and downloaded a JPEG from a web page. I've seen that quite a lot. I have had to do it myself when pleas of "if you want me to include your logo you will have to provide it to me in a suitable format" are returned as "sorry I don't understand".
One of the things the children picked up quite early on when doing searches for images to include in the interminable number of presentations they have to do at school is to add "png" as a search term as that more often than not turns up images with proper transparency.
Often when I've stressed the requirement for a vector, or at worst a very high resolution pixelmap (bitmapped) image, what do I get instead? A .jpeg file either saved as a vector (they can include images) or expanded to a high resolution size and then saved back down.
For my next request, I don't want the master copy of a document, I'd like one that's been faxed twice, then a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy made from the resultant faxed document. Or alternaticely they could email me the file. Preferably not as the said multiple copied document scanned as an image into .pdf form of course...
We have one projection at work which we often use for company logos (or whatever) when they've hired the place. Because of its "normal" job, it has a really odd format of 3072 x 423 pixels and is projected by three projectors side-by-side*. The line-up of the projectors isn't precise (though all things considered it's pretty good) so I always advise not running smallish text across the 1024 and 2048 boundaries and anyway there's not really a lot of pixels to play with so images and large text are best, as are dark backgrounds.
I am not a graphic designer, and my boss doesn't appreciate me spending hours sorting out things like this instead of fixing the computers or the video players, so it really helps if I can persuade people to send me something I can just upload to the display computers and be done with.
Few companies have people who can understand that kind of detail. Most often I get submissions ranging from 4:3 format logos, usually JPEG, often at very low resolution, through to collections of phone camera images, all taken in portrait mode. You can sort of understand that - people just don't understand what I'm saying.
Very occasionally I get people sending beautifully designed images in exactly the correct aspect ratio, but saved out from Photoshop or Illustrator at 600 dpi, so that the JPEG (and it's almost invariably a JPEG) I receive is some enormous number of pixels (600dpi would result in something about 19,200 pixels across). These I find more difficult to understand - they must have put "3072 x 423" into the thing to start with, in order to end up with the exact correct aspect ratio, so how come it gets exported at several times the required number of pixels?
*The actual resolution now that we've fitted new projectors is 3840 x 528 pixels, but because of the way the thing works, it is still (for now) being driven at 3072 x 423.
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While I can understand the stupidity of the usual copper about warning against Kali and metasploit, the TOR thing is more worrying.
And what to say about discord ? WTF ? Discord is used by any gamer out there ! If you are to handcuff all discord users, then Steam will see a dramatic reduction of usage !
Uses Linux (ok its mint, fedora, centOS, and whatever the hell it is that Heidenhain use on thier TNC series controls(but they're german so thats doubley dangerous))
Uses discord .. oh dear
Uses VMs on my linux box... mostly to run a windows XP snapshot to watch film 4
As for the other tools not had much call for them.
However I'll be bidding you all farewell as I'm off to hand myself in for punishment (mostly likely,... 4 yrs hard labour trying to get win 10 to talk to our machine tools using our old winxp/win 7 software (current project status: about to kick the win 10 laptop to bits))
... and wondered if I should have shot her when she was 12, after I discovered she was dual booting Slackware and BSD.
She had four partitions on a huge 800 meg IDE drive: BSD, Slack, swap and her personal directories. She was afraid I'd get mad at her for blowing away Windows to make room for a persistent partition for personal stuff ...
Is it just me, or is even encouraging a parent to call the police to report their own children for something, just.. weird? As a concept? The expectation that anyone would follow the advice of that poster is unsettling. Like.. has there ever been any situation in which it's a good thing that you or your child are 'known to the police'. It's actually starting to infuriate me the waste of resources going into producing posters that are not only complete bollocks but betray an orwellian desire to supplant family relationships for loyalty. And don't think I've not forgotten 'accidentally' including XR in that list of extremist symbols and ideology manual. Drip drip drip etc.
has there ever been any situation in which it's a good thing that you or your child are 'known to the police'.
The best thing to say to the police is NOTHING. Maybe except in the case of an emergency, but basically as little as possible. It's their job to get you to speak, for by speaking you give them words they can then twist to help them get another conviction.
They don't care if the person convicted is guilty, or even if a crime was committed. They just care about the conviction - enough of them and they get a healthy bonus, and hey - "everyone is guilty of something".
(El Reg, can we get a "sour grapes", "bitter pill", or "soapbox psychorant" icon please?)
I overheard some girls on a train talking about how they install virtual machines on their school provided laptop so they can have games and how there is a hack that makes the school image look like it has all the memory it should have. They also discussed how they had used social engineering to get most teachers to drop the anti-plagiarism software by jacking up the false positive rates. I expect the kids weren't over 12 based on the expensive school they attend.
That's worth both a paddling and an ice cream cone. You just need to guide them that, for political reasons, you don't hack some people or if you do, you never let them be in a position to prove that you did it.
Places like the MoD are also something you don't want to mess with. Never hack from home. See if you can simulate your target and practice off-line before going in for reals.
Not too many years back I was asked to guide a kid who was causing his parents all sorts of grief, namely trying stuff with the family computer that constantly had related problems.
One of the first things I taught was the use of virtual box and using VMs to help protect his computer, and also a spare box I gave the family where I taught him how to use images to quickly revert to a 'fresh install'.
I won't say what he does now, but I will say it's linked to one of my less-liked organisations and he's involved in a certain form of "security".
If someone didn't give this kid a decent start (and that's all I did, he took the hand-up I gave him and flew) the "white hats" wouldn't have him on side. If his parents had reported him for the tools he was using, he'd have been "turned around" by the local dodogooders society/been introduced to nasty criminals like psychologists, and the person he is now would never have existed.
The use of the tools can go both ways, just like the number of people who as teens engage in small levels of what is often called "crime" like trying dope, under-age drinking, speeding and so on (even small levels of theft or vandalism) yet with decent support manage to turn things around and actually be valuable. It's not what we grow up with on the computer that makes or breaks, it's how we're treated.
Friend is a lawyer and technophobe, but his teen son has gone all furtive using the family desktop into the small hours. It's not games, so Dad asked me what to be aware of. That list isn't all bad (actually I think he's doing 'currency trading' scams though). What advice do all you experts give?
This is just the same list of tools they look for in internet histories, people's downloads, or on devices when they find them. Maybe it is a rare case of our glorious Authoritarian rulers telling us what we are being surveyed for, and what gets top marks in their current round of telemetry-driven 'raid and seek'.
Be aware, be very aware. They do collect traces of these tools online, so why not look in your devices, your home, anywhere the criminal you might be stashing subversive, seditionary tooling- or thoughts of it.
What's also worth mentioning to The Fuzz should El reg ever get to the stage of "engaging" with it is the fact that folks are not as dumb as the police would like them to be, and that when it's time to apologise, best thing to do is say "sorry" instead of attempting to lie your way through it --
"the software mentioned is legal, and in the vast majority of cases is used legitimately, giving great benefit to those interested in developing legitimate skills. The purpose of this poster was to provide a quick reference guide to the range
["of legal software available that will be of so great a benefit to children that we believe parents should report them to us so we can send several patrol cars round to your front door and the kids can be personally congratulated and given signed photographs of our Chief Constable"]
I added the sentence's latter part because the police response inadvertently omitted it. Also, clarification was needed lest anyone think the assertion about "the purpose of this poster" was anything other than a blatant lie.
The sooner police and their PR departments stop preening themselves on their non-existent IT expertise andcommunication skills, and get back to nicking lawbreakers, the better. Setting an example to children by actually telling the truth when in the wrong and caught out would also be useful.
The police have a massive cultural problem in dealing with high-tech crime. The kind of person who is good at picking through complex high tech evidence and building a case against someone is almost the diametric opposite of the kind of person who integrated well with police "Van Culture". Historically what they've tried to do it take someone who's good an investigating burglaries and re-train them to be good at investigating tech crime. Which doesn't work, not least because the subject is far too complex, nuanced and fast changing to be covered in a 2-week one-time course.
The NCA was supposed to be the answer to this. However, they flunked the execution stage by - you guessed it - staffing it with coppers. Which was the problem all along. They've been positively selected to be crap at this.
Best turn myself in then
Found my 8 Year old son playing about with the developer tools and console managing to post dodgy data back at a site for his school, so decided to encouring him and teach him properly so now he has a laptop with VM's including Kali, his own account on hackthebox and oh had as hes also a gamer he has discord. Bad dad hear teaching him ethical hacking and research I guess.
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This poster is destined to be a classic like "Marijuana, Assasin of Youth". As such it should be a collectible....but there's no information about how to get one.
(Where I live the current big Assassian of Youth are Juul vaping devices. We get these 'epidemic' stories and occasionally they tease legislators into some kind of precipitate action. The actual numbers tell a different story but why let a bit of factual information get in the way of a good scare?)
....and head down to Cheltenham to arrest the spooks who executed the hack.....
I thought not!
Despite being (apparently) too under-resourced to respond effectively to crimes such as domestic burglary, our police forces seem now to be trying to make up the rules as they go along. We used to have non-hate crime and hate crime, but recently non-crime hate emerged, for which, on the basis of an assumption about motive, you can get a permanent record - presumably not a criminal record, but potentially just as damaging to reputation.
As far as I know there's no statutory definition of this offence. While one cannot condone the insulting behaviour that was so classified, it should not be within the remit of the police to create novel offences to classify it - that's the prerogative of the Crown via Parliament.
Similarly, the tacit assumption that the police have a remit to monitor activities of our children that do not contravene any law is not supported by statute, but smacks of "precrime", which didn't even work well in the movie.
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