I'm not going to hold my breath...
...waiting for 1080p Netflix on Linux. That would be the only reason for me to use Edge over Brave.
Microsoft's Edge browser, retooled to run on Chromium's open source foundation, has shed its beta designation and entered general release on Wednesday, promising performance, productivity, privacy, and value – a word which here means Microsoft Rewards gift card points for using Bing and access to so-called Premium News. Of …
1080p on Linux... you might of, as once upon a time you could fake the funk with Silverlight. Last I tried, Netflix stopped this (and also added very aggressive VPN blocking).
But on that subject, that doesn't explain this...
"4K streaming (for Windows 10)"
Either I missed the specific program for that limitation or the browser determines the delivery as a whole. Ah, now that's the Microsft we know and love. And you might have worried they'd changed after all (HA! M$4Life! Suckers!).
Idioms for edge
21 have an edge on, Informal. to be mildly intoxicated with alcoholic liquor:
He had a pleasant edge on from the sherry.
22 on edge, a (of a person or a person's nerves) acutely sensitive; nervous; tense.
b impatient; eager:
The contestants were on edge to learn the results.
...it wouldn't be right to recommend Idiom No.21 as an antidote to Idiom No.22, but it's an interesting neighbourance - well, juxtaposition, but fancy words bring on NO.22 as well. ;-)
"comes with our Privacy Promise and we can’t wait for you to try new features like tracking prevention, which is on by default, "
comes with our Privacy Promise and we can't wait to collect your data from our OS! We'll protect you from being tracked by other companies, increasing the value of our collected data about you as it'll only be us who can provide that information to our advertisers.
It does. It comes with "Internet Explorer Mode".
Details are at https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/edge-ie-mode
"IE mode on Microsoft Edge is a simplified experience that combines a modern rendering engine and compatibility with legacy sites that require Internet Explorer in a single browser. IE mode provides an integrated browsing experience in Microsoft Edge, using the integrated Chromium engine for modern sites and leveraging Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) for legacy sites that require the Trident MSHTML engine."
Just tried to install it for kicks. Installer came up in Chinese and wouldn't change, installed copy was also in Chinese with no obvious way to fix the language. I don't ever use Chinese or have any regional settings related to China (nor do I speak it). Fun stuff. Pretty rough for a big release.
You have to appreciate this. Think of it, a developer takes the trouble to write a routine to generate a random number, convert it into a range of integer of exactly the same size as the number of available languages, use that resulting number to set the language of the browser. That monke... sorry, developer used his time and programming skills to bring this special feature to you hoping you will appreciate it. Not to mention about the QA team that spent countless hours testing all possible use cases making sure this feature works flawlessly.
I'm guessing it's part of a concerted effort to try and displace IE and Chrome within businesses. Edge was poorly supported and adopted because most businesses used either Win7 or a mixture of Win7 and Win10 - and IT departments don't see the point in making an effort to support something that's only available to certain users. Why bother when you can roll out Chrome to all PCs (regardless of Windows version) and have one consistent browser to support (with IE of course for legacy stuff).
Hence by making Edgium available to Windows 7, MS probably hopes that it'll be more appealing for businesses to finally look at adopting it instead of Chrome - even those with legacy machines that are signed up to ESU.
If only they'd realised this originally instead of their stupid plan of making the original Edge a "Windows 10 Exclusive" feature - a plan that backfired spectacularly!
And how is this distinguished from ordinary news? It is a bit clearer that Microsoft like's not Linux but Chromium in stead, the tainted version of Linux. Edge = Chrome something Microsoft adopted after IE left a bad smell that they could not get rid of. As for Chromium it has made distinctions between those who contribute to google coffers and those to be left out in the cold which makes add blocking academic rather than of practical use.
Having gone through the simpler days when IE was Evil, Netscape was the Good Guys, along with plucky underdogs like Opera, it's hard to make sense of today's browser landscape.
It's clear that having a corporate-sponsored browser is the way to go. That's why Chromium (Google) is the only game in town these days, it seems. Firefox/Mozilla is limping along, but with income drying up, it may soon turn into another VPN provider that happens to offer a (Chromium-based) browser. Opera is using Chromium now. Safari is still using Webkit, but unless you're one of those Mac users, this doesn't matter to you.
I guess that's why over time I have drifted from IE (3, 4) to Netscape (4.7x) to Firebird^WFirefox to Pale Moon (and Basilisk). Got to stick to the side of Good, after all. Some days it feels like Google is the Borg, resistance is futile, and we'll all be using Chromium in some form on a Google-ruled WWW before long.
Some things never change, I guess.
"Firefox/Mozilla is limping along, but with income drying up, it may soon turn into another VPN provider that happens to offer a (Chromium-based) browser"
Firefox is not a Chromium based browser, its the only multi-platform mainstream browser that isn't chromium based and that why I still use it as my main browser and have done since it was still in beta in the early 2000s.
I understand why MS have to have a browser and also why it makes business sense to move Edge to Chromium engine. Yet I still don't to see many people moving away from Chrome if they already have it installed.
As for there not being a Linux edge build, there is already several Chromium based browsers available for Linux so do we really need another. As I predict eventually MS will even drop the other builds of Edge for MacOS and Android when it fails to take off as they had hoped.
I didn't say that Firefox is Chromium-based right now.
It's however likely that Mozilla will also use Chromium for Firefox once the dev budget dries up to maintain its own rendering engine. In light of Mozilla seeking to diversify itself, this seems less far-fetched than it may seem.
Since Firefox already is by and large Chrome-compatible on account of using WebExtensions and nothing else, for users of Firefox nothing really would change if this change were to occur. It'd save Mozilla a lot of money on duplicating Google's efforts, however.
I have been using it for a while in Beta. My overwhelming thought is "Why?". It looks virtually the same as Chrome. With extensions it will work virtually identically. It looks just as out of place in Windows as Chrome does. At least the old Edge did some things - that even if you didn't like them - made sense in the Windows landscape (UI was the same - pen support - One Note integration).
Why I wouldn't use something like Brave, Vivaldi or another Chromium based browser is a mystery.
If they, at least, added pen / touch support and the really good favourites and history panels, and made it look like old edge then I could see the merit in calling it Edge. As for now I suggest Chrinternet Explorer as in use it's closer to that old beast.
Sadly it has lost them. On my surface I am sticking to the old Edge for as long as possible. Look at the Edge insider forums. Everyone keeps on about the UI and integrations - they've pretty much been ignored.
Also worth noting you can't have both classic Edge and new Edge installed at the same time....
I really hope that the little comment about this as a “security” item isn’t Edge picking up the Chrome model for this where it’s hacked in somewhere low level in the code and doesn’t understand the difference between local file paths (which really are a different domain) and remote file paths (which are just another protocol), nor between corporate controlled web sites (which may even be running on the same box as the file server) and untrusted sites. As a result simple integration between web apps and legacy stuff either fails, becomes complex and a whole new kind of security risk, or forces users onto IE. I’m sure it was done with the best of intentions but Chrome has been causing me nightmares on some recent projects.
If you had asked me last year, I would not have believed I would be writing this.
I downloaded Chromium Edge Beta with very little hope and expected another bad Microsoft attempt at a Chrome rival. To my amazement, it wasn't that bad, in fact, as I used it, I struggled (and still struggle) to find anything wrong with it. It imported my Chrome settings and extensions, and just worked, very reliably.
I was also happy to see the very familiar Chromium Dev Tools etc, which actually work better than Chrome (far more responsive). And it seems to not have the same massive memory consumption problems Chrome has (especially when Dev Tools are open).
Assuming Edge hasn't replaced all of the Google tracking code with its own, Chromium Edge is the best parts of Google Chrome, without the 'Google' bit.
(I don't work for Microsoft)
All modern browsers seem to sync your settings, saved passwords etc - Certainly Firefox and Chrome do. And this new Chredge thing does too. Except it doesn't. Sync is meant to work through a microsoft account, but when I go to the sync settings in Edge, I see a message that 'Sync isn't available for this account'. Apparently there's some limitation with using Office 365 Business Premium accounts where you can't sync them. According to the developers, they're 'working' on it.
Now look Microsoft: this is out of Beta, and an important (though possibly invisible) feature just doesn't work. You can do better than this!
I have been waiting for this for a LONG time. Finally, I can banish Google Chrome from my PC. (Firefox is, will continue to be and will always be my main browser.)
I downloaded the new non-beta build of Edge-with-Chromium (that's what it calls itself, I believe) and tested it a bit. The headline results are these: the installed `msedge.exe` supports BOTH `--user-data-dir` AND `--app` and that means that I don't need Google Chrome anymore!
I browse with Firefox but I make extensive use of shortcuts that employ these two command-line parameters to create sand-boxed environments for individual web apps that I use all the time. For example, I have a whole user-data-dir for work-related web apps and that's used to get an app-like experience with GitLab, Jenkins, Trello, Slack, etc. -- each one (launched with --app) gets its own task-bar button and its own window, remembers that windows last location for the next launch, and gets its own entry in the alt-tab list, just like a real app. Then I have another user-data-dir for personal apps and some of those apps are duplicates -- I have two instances of GitLab, for example, and, because of the separation of user-data directories, they behave completely independently -- I can even have them running side-by-side with separate logins.
I've had to keep some form of Chrome around just for this, for years. Now, I don't need that any more because I can use the Windows built-in browser. (Not built-in, yet... but soon.)
Do not misunderstand me: choosing to replace Chrome with Edge-with-Chromium is certainly a choice of the lesser evil. Ultimately, Microsoft are going to bundle a browser in their OS so actually using it costs me nothing as far as installed footprint is concerned. Also, I'm personally extremely anti-Google so, if I have to choose between data spies, I'll be choosing Microsoft any day of the week.
I did experiment, in the past, with builds of Chromium sources that had been patched to remove Google's hooks into the code base but, personally, I found them to be very high-maintenance commitments and ended up returning to Chrome proper and feeling dirty for it. Replacing that with Edge-with-Chromium isn't a perfect solution but it is certainly a step in the right direction.
There shall be NO Google software (or update services) running on my PC.
Google on Tuesday said it plans to phase out support for third-party cookies in 2022. By the time that happens, the search ads biz hopes to have built alternative tracking mechanisms into its Chrome browser. It's not yet clear whether those will be blockable.
If it's from Google, then the answer will be "NO".