Over a ten years so about £25million pa from a still developing company in Australia. Given the declared company figures, the Aussie tax office are doing much better than the UK HMRC's massive tax revenue of £14million ...
What’s that Skippy? Google’s coughed up $330m in tax Down Under?
The Australian Tax Office (ATO) has scooped A$481.5m (£252.3m, $330m) in back taxes from ad giant Google, its latest victory scored against big technology businesses including Apple, Facebook and Microsoft. The settlement has taken the tax collector's backtaxes barrel to AU$1.25bn: Apple coughed up AU$630m back in 2017 while …
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Thursday 19th December 2019 19:30 GMT Tom 7
I often wonder if we should just get all Ayn Rand for a while. That would mean Amazon would have to pay road tolls to get their shit delivered and, unless Amazon was going to pay for their deliveries to be policed, we could shoot the aerial deliveries down with relative impunity. They'd last two weeks.
Ditto Google - we could just high-jack their traffic for our own needs and reduce their revenue to negative in a moment.
The industrial revolution would have died on its feet with that model - it nearly did in the UK - public roads came about as many businesses were destroyed by toll roads popping up at their gates.
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Wednesday 18th December 2019 16:56 GMT Dave 15
Yeah well
I think I should pay tax at a similar rate to Google... so maybe HMRC would care to wait until I am dead and buried before collecting the 1p I might owe them by then?
It is utterly inexplicable that governments STILL dont get this, STOP charging business on 'profit' as this is far too easily shipped to a foreign tax haven, start charging on sales. I pay my tax on my income NOT on my profit from going to work. Indeed all the moves by HMRC against contractors are exactly to stop contractors paying tax on profit instead of sales. A level playing field is needed, how can a corner shop or cafe compete against a supermarket or chain coffee shop that exports all its profit to a zero tax tax haven?
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Wednesday 18th December 2019 19:43 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Yeah well
You can't really lump contractors in here as contractors that avoid tax by reducing profits ultimately lose out by not being able to mortgage or remortgage a home for example. This has a huge impact on that contractors lifestyle and so on.
Google offshoring sales profit has very little impact on their business if any.
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Thursday 19th December 2019 07:08 GMT W.S.Gosset
Re: Yeah well
> I pay my tax on my income NOT on my profit from going to work.
Actually, you ARE paying tax on your profit from going to work. And so are Australians. You pay tax on your Net Income, after Deductions.
It's just that in the UK, historically, allowable deductions have been wound down to buggerall. Nowadays, they're really only available to special categories of workers -- eg (IIRC) nurses buying uniforms, builders buying steelcap boots.
In Australia the principle has been expressly stated: you pay tax on all income less all costs incurred in earning that income. The end.
With two big exceptions: can't claim commuting costs (boo!chiz!), nor clothing-etc that's not special purpose (esp: suits). So that season-pass and that mounting drycleaning bill for your suit -- suck it up.
Other than that, pretty much every work-driven cost is deductible: journal subscriptions, proportion of home-internet used for work, percentage of mortgage for room dedicated to work, income protection insurance, sunglasses, etc.etc.
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Thursday 19th December 2019 07:11 GMT W.S.Gosset
Re: Yeah well
> STOP charging business on 'profit'
I agree with your larger intent but strongly disagree with re-defining something as tail so you can wag the dog.
The TOOL used, to manipulate profit, is what should be addressed.
And that tool is Transfer Pricing (nearly always).
Most commonly now of IP. So for example, Google-Luxembourg "owns" g's IP, including its trademarked name, and "charges" Google-UK BwahHaHa% of its revenue as royalties for use of the name/IP.
Regulate transfer pricing, and you've smashed nearly all of the multinationals' tax dodging.
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Thursday 19th December 2019 06:45 GMT W.S.Gosset
Errr... careful. That info-"source" 's Chief Economics Correspondent firmly believes (and has castigated governments and the ATO) that if you e.g. buy a car for $1,000 and sell it for $800, you have made $200 PROFIT. Seriously.
To put it another way, that organisation is hysterical fun but not an information source.
The ATO's data shows that, of those large companies not paying tax:
* 34% simply didn't make a profit, and
* another 38% are still working thru previous losses (aren't back above water, profit-wise).
Then:
* 20.5% are taking advantage of standard ATO-created accelerated-deduction-rates (eg, write 100% electronics off in year of purchase for tax, depreciate over 3 years for real-world)
Leaving a grand total of 7.5%.
And they're taking advantage of special ATO-created rebates and subsidies and special offsets and so on, such as the Research & Development rebate (which the ATO is clamping down on).
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Thursday 19th December 2019 10:32 GMT Ian Joyner
Waratah National Park
I took my relatives from Southampton to the locked gates of where the Skippy park was last week. Glad to know Skippy has defeated the wicked empire! Shame everything was blanketed in smoke for them. I remember after a bushfire burnt out that area when I was young ending up in the Skippy park overlooking the valley with small fires still burning.