back to article Scammy and spammy harassers are chasing veteran pros off crypto-collab platform Keybase

Collaboration site Keybase, once touted for its encrypted meetup channels and robust developer features, is struggling to ward off an epidemic of harassment and spam brought about by its shift toward cryptocurrency. Longtime users of the site who spoke with The Register have complained that Keybase, a multi-platform secure …

  1. jake Silver badge

    Who in this era ...

    ... thought that launching a communications service without a capable bozo filter with user defined rules was a good idea? What were they thinking?

    1. David 132 Silver badge
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      Re: Who in this era ...

      Techno-utopians, of the "Wouldn't It Be Nice If Everyone Was Nice" persuasion, apparently.

    2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Re: Who in this era ...

      Yeah. It's not like these problems are new, right ? These Keybase guys totally ignored everything that happened to Skype and other such platforms and just traipsed into the messaging world believing in unicorns and pots of gold at the end of rainbows.


      1. jake Silver badge

        Re: Who in this era ...

        Skype? That's modern. We were swapping killfile entries on BBSes by the late 1970s. Certainly by the time USENET became popular they were common (see Larry Wall's rn, from 1984). Pournelle lamented the lack of killfiles in BIX in his The User's Column (later became Computing at Chaos Manor) in the early 1980s.

        1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

          Re: Who in this era ...

          Yes, rn and its successors such as nn and xrn really set the standard for killfile capabilities. Quick and basic options for non-technical users, full field-specific regexes for technical ones, transient or persistent, human-readable, editable...

          But I think that was part of Pascal's point. This is a well-understood problem, and the consequences of failing to deal with it had been demonstrated in more-recent messaging services such as Skype. So both positive and negative examples are amply available to people designing such services.

          (Though, frankly, I have to say that while I've never used Keybase, from the description I don't see what it would give me that I'd want. Currently I have two officially supported and recommended messaging / chat services here at work, and neither of them is as good as Usenet plus IRC, for any use case I have. On the other hand, they consume vast amounts of resources.)

  2. sbt

    ... the ability to block and report users directly to an administrator with two clicks.

    That's still one click too many.

    Block, filter and abuse reporting is part of your minimum viable product, even if you've opt-in only, address book controlled or private messaging functions.

  3. katrinab Silver badge

    PHB's just don't get it

    "Social networks can probably survive organic growth. But VC funding in particular drives strong incentive to grow at all costs. ALL costs."

    If you let the spammers in, the legitimate users will move elsewhere, and when the legitimate users leave, the spammers will no longer have a reason to be there, so they will leave as well, leaving you with a derelict wasteland.

    1. JulieM

      Re: PHB's just don't get it

      Considering how much e-mail spam nowadays is advertisements for "get rich quick" schemes that involve selling "get rich quick" schemes using e-mail spam, I think we might already be heading for that point.

      1. W.S.Gosset Silver badge

        Re: PHB's just don't get it

        > Considering how much e-mail spam nowadays is advertisements for "get rich quick" schemes that involve selling "get rich quick" schemes using e-mail spam

        You're on a VC MailingList.

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